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pheoni · Boot Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 12

http://outdoorplace.org/beekeeping/axioms.htm

There are 10 beekeeper AXIOMS (sounds like AXON?).

As for the prp's they are all based on where you are in relation to something - position. There are other types (relationship).

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 3:44 pm

toenolla · Boot Joined: 22 Aug 2004 Posts: 51

Say no to Prop 41!

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:01 pm

Torrasque · Boot Joined: 18 Sep 2004 Posts: 50 Location: Detroit, MI

What if it's just a two word combination of prepositions from the list that sounds like "SOUNDS LIKE".

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:33 pm

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danteGA · Boot Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 65

In one of the Kemal wavs today, there is something that makes me think that we are on the right track on this puzzle by trying to find words that sound like "prepositions" etc etc.

In this soundfile:

http://transmit.ilovebees.com/outbound/parabolic_lemonade_failure.wav

Kemal is being paranoid about a possible 'keyword scavenger' and devises a code to fool the person/AI ghosting him. So, instead of "metabolic cascade failure" [see: http://transmit.ilovebees.com/outbound/yasmine.wav ], he talks about "parabolic lemonade failure."

So, we just gotta keep trying out various 'sounds-alike' words. Problem is that we don't know exactly what the keywords should be...

fortyone prepositions?
prepositions between the lines?
preposition list?

I know we've tried all those things, but still..

dante

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 4:34 pm

Re@peR · Kilroy Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 2

have any of you tried filenames with the prepositions that sound alike? I made a list of all of the similar ones
UNDERNEATH
UNDER
WITHOUT
WITHIN
WITH
OVER
ONTO
OUTSIDE
ON
OFF
OPPOSITE
Behind
Below
Beneath
Beside
By
Between
Before
Beyond
Against
At
Aside
Above
After
Around
Across
Among
Along
About
Amid
Into
Inside
In
Toward
To
Through
Throughout
Past
From
Round
Near

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:00 pm

SuperNinjaMonkeyMan · Greenhorn Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 7

I don't know if it helps at all, but all the words are capitalized, so maybe it's supposed to sound like "forty one capital prepositions"

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:00 pm

pheoni · Boot Joined: 12 Oct 2004 Posts: 12

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/41_%28number%29

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:08 pm

drizjr · Unfictologist Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 1700

If "analyst" is on the right track, it would account for the list of prepositions part (it sounds like "and a list"). So trying to reconcile the dashed lines, or as someone suggested, the 20/20 vision angle, might complete the phrase.

Just a few ideas, that didn't work...
analyst_behind_lines
behind_lines_analyst
eagle_eyed_analyst
character_analyst

We know that Rani is very observant and can accurately describe people by looking at them or by listening to their voices. She seems very intuitive, too. Maybe that's what Herzog talks about in this wav. Dunno

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:37 pm

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Sep7imus · Veteran Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Posts: 149

I THINK this is a new way of looking at the SOUNDS LIKE clue, so maybe it will spark some thoughts.

Maybe SOUNDS LIKE refers to the picture in which it is imbedded, charades style.

So, maybe it's something that SOUNDS LIKE one of these:
cutebee
bee wave
bee flap
bee dance

You know, words that describe the gif.

This word could then be combined with prepostions or propositions to form the wav title...
thoughts?

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:42 pm

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klobbermeister

Okay,

It's *not* echo_locators.wav (for "sounds like" and prepositions (locators)); also not solemn_proposition (which might *sound like* "column (of) prepositions").

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:44 pm

danteGA · Boot Joined: 12 Aug 2004 Posts: 65

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 5:50 pm

Ralen · Boot Joined: 06 Oct 2004 Posts: 44

I'm not sure if this has been mentioned or not, but going with the clue "SOUNDS LIKE" I noticed that the page that has the image with the list of prepositions is the same page that plays the "I love bees" loop. I've already tried a few files like bees.wav i_love_bees.wav, etc. with no luck. Maybe we should focus on the prepositions beginning with "BE"?

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:00 pm

kingchaos2 · Decorated Joined: 01 Aug 2004 Posts: 153

Sorry if this is off topic, but I've been so stuck on the puzzle aspect that I forgot all about the axon-hunting going on. Just a quick question. What's with the visual confirmation thing?

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:23 pm

M.c.P · Greenhorn Joined: 09 Sep 2004 Posts: 4

By far, the toughest puzzle we've tackled so far.

Anyway, I tried something myself.
If you take out every word which rhymes with another word on the list, you get the following words in order

Behind
Against
At
Below
Above
Around
Across
By
Between
Toward
On
Past
Off
Oppossitte
From
With
Amid
Before
Near
Beyond

This spells BAABAA ABBT...
Baa Baa sounded promising, so I gave it a try.
But baa_baa didn't work. And black_sheep and baa_baa_black_sheep didn't work either

But I may be on to something
Try it in order of syllables or something

BTW, the listing all the words that rhyme in order spells UWOIAIIBBA etc...
not very promising

**Posted:** Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:57 pm