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[SPEC] Monster Ann = Gladys
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MeKiwi
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 		Arana, I think that's exactly what Devolver was alluding to, he was just being really subtle with it. ^_^

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MeKiwi wrote:
Arana, I think that's exactly what Devolver was alluding to, he was just being really subtle with it. ^_^


I like unsubtle. I might also say "unclear," which I blame on not yet being fully caffeinated. It takes a lot for those of us in Seattle. Very Happy
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mordak wrote:
Still, Daboking has this one pegged. If Durga could see past identities of J^2, why nor Gladys?


Who's to say she doesn't know? AI's notoriously have their own agendas... Cortana's "random jump" at the end of "Fall of Reach" was because she was curious about the symbols. "Melissa" is trying to rebuild her crew for the specific purpose of killing Dana. Who's to say that Gladys doesn't have something that Durga wants...

[SPEC] Maybe there's a Kinkle/Gladys/Aiden connection that she'd following... Take out Gladys, take over her opperations, subvert the flashclone lab, and rebirth Yasmine? Probably wrong, but not out of Durga's scope.

Also, Durga's a busy girl, and as Kamal theorized she may have processes that only listen for key words. She didn't even notice Jan being tortured until Jersey asked about her, and we know Melissa can block her from "voices" (chatter feeds?). If she'd never been listening to Gladys, if Melissa didn't want her to know about Gladys, and if she didn't dig too far into Gladys (Marine intel is easy, but who knows what Gladys may have guarding her bank records (weak, I know)), it's feasible that she missed the connection.

My money is on two things right now:

1. Gladys is Monster Ann and Jan is headed into deep bantha fodder.

2. Durga/Melissa/SP is/are not showing all her/their card/cards.

Debunks are welcomed! Reveal truth, for that is law! Smile

Edit: Also, I don't think Jan's offline. Everything we hear about Jan comes from her chatter, doesn't it? Not to mention, she taked to Stupid_Cop and Gilly in a couple of the wavs, didn't she?

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 		turbov21, you are right in that
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2. Durga/Melissa/SP is/are not showing all her/their card/cards.

This aspect is very much like an onion with layer after layer, but the more you dig in, the more the waterworks come forth. Crying or Very sad

If for no other reason... this seems entirely possible thanks to Durga's breakdown when Jersey makes the Yasmine connection for her. Who can guess how this will begin to affect/change Durga?
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 		I agree that there is a strong chance Durga did not dig into Gladys.
But you have to admit she would have investigated Monster Ann VERY closely indeed.

The "maybe Durga in on it too" idea is always possible, but it doesn't seem likely.

The thought that Melissa is subverting things is more interesting. I don't know what her agenda might be, but perhaps Gladys has ties with things Melissa deems "Confidential". If that's the case Melissa would try and hide that information from Durga.
Getting pretty far in WILD SPEC at this point. Not enough Data.

EDIT - Thanks for the reminder Krystyn. I concur,
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turbov21 wrote:
"Melissa" is trying to rebuild her crew for the specific purpose of killing Dana.


Wha?

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krystyn wrote:
turbov21 wrote:
"Melissa" is trying to rebuild her crew for the specific purpose of killing Dana.


Wha?


Isn't she? Isn't the majority of her work to build a crew to hunt down "the assassain?"

On another note, in the Gladys/Monster Ann category: has anyone SPEC'd why Kinkle was trying to brainwash Jan? I haven't seen any theories, but then I haven't looked very hard.

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daboking wrote:


If for no other reason... this seems entirely possible thanks to Durga's breakdown when Jersey makes the Yasmine connection for her. Who can guess how this will begin to affect/change Durga?


I believe that Jersey was the one interested in Jan, and Durga only looked her up and watched her to make Jersey happy. I wouldn't be surprised if Durga is getting jealous and wants Jan out of the way.
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turbov21 wrote:

On another note, in the Gladys/Monster Ann category: has anyone SPEC'd why Kinkle was trying to brainwash Jan? I haven't seen any theories, but then I haven't looked very hard.


Arana's answer makes mine redundant, and is much more pleasant and informative. Wink
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turbov21 wrote:
On another note, in the Gladys/Monster Ann category: has anyone SPEC'd why Kinkle was trying to brainwash Jan? I haven't seen any theories, but then I haven't looked very hard.


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The Gladys recruiting Jan to her shady organization makes great sense.


Who running a security operation would not want a 1.1 under control of one of her subordinates? The "go stay with Morales [and his dweeb 1.1 kid - my addition]" line could be a way of keeping tabs on Jan. Perhaps Gladys has already recruited other 1.1s. But this is spec piled on spec. Houses of cards are most stable when only one story high!
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 		Durga is also very sensitive about how Jersey feels toward her. It would kill her to have Jersey hate her like he would were he ever to find out she had any involvement in Jan's pain.
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 		Ajenteks wrote:
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daboking wrote:


If for no other reason... this seems entirely possible thanks to Durga's breakdown when Jersey makes the Yasmine connection for her. Who can guess how this will begin to affect/change Durga?


I believe that Jersey was the one interested in Jan, and Durga only looked her up and watched her to make Jersey happy. I wouldn't be surprised if Durga is getting jealous and wants Jan out of the way.


Ajenteks... I think I am missing your point. Could you elaborate. I don't think I mentioned Jan. Thanks. Confused
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HitsHerMark wrote:

... and there was something else. But I can't remember.


How about this one:

Skin wrote:

Thin: Now, see that was a young move. Whoever's running you needs to smooth out some edges here. You can't put the hammer to Thin in his own place!


I thought it was an odd comment at the time, and seemed to indicate Thin knew something about Jan.
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 		this_damn_rain points to this too, you ask me... Gladys is trying to set her up, and the only thing she discourages is going to Gilly.

And she also says that her dad "got in over his head" and dissuades Jan when she mentions him "breaking the rule"- in fact, she does a whole lot of dissuading about chasing up why her dad made that error...

Further and further down the rabbithole we go...
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turbov21 wrote:
Isn't she? Isn't the majority of her work to build a crew to hunt down "the assassain?"



She's spent an equal amount of energy:

- ignoring the existence of the Pious Flea, despite many players' attempts to get her to recognize a possible threat there
- pursuing and locking up the Sleeping Princess, and getting pissed off when we were able to free her
- having us be her dancing bear for a whole day, for the purposes of 'training' us for a future mission, all on the heels of the question, "Who is the enemy?"

Our correct answer to that question, by the way, was the Covenant. So no, even though Dana has been a concern to her, her mission-critical enemy is a much bigger dog. I just don't see the end-all be-all as being Dana-centric. I just don't buy it.

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