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[SPEC] Welcome to our* world...

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Actually Melissa wasn't hiding the Rani files from Durga. Those are just ones that the SP likes making puzzles out of. Durga has mentioned parts of it before, but the .wav names are slipping my mind.

**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:23 am

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**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 12:28 am

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Digiwizzard · Boot Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 23

**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 4:51 am

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**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:55 am

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Re: [SPEC] Welcome to our* world...

**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 5:17 pm

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Starblade · Veteran Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 94

1. I don't see how Durga=Melissa undamaged.
2. That's fairly obvious now.
3. I spec'd that, but there isn't any proof that it is related to the SPDR, at least, not yet. Read the thread 'The Spider and the Flea' for more on my spec.

Link: http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=7086

And how can Durga=Melissa undamaged, if they were all part of a core AI?

The SPDR's objective was to repair the damaged AI. The PF might be to repair the 'mental' damage, but that's in my spec, and unknown. According to you, if PF=SPDR, there would be no need to erase SPDR, as they could repair the AI twice as quickly, in theory, anyway.

OHHHHH, I see where you're coming from, with Durga.

You think that Durga is a 'system restored' version of Melissa.

SP=Yasmine. When Jersey declared Durga as being created from Yasmine, Durga had a breakdown. The breakdown is similar to Melissa's, and to when the SP awakened during the breakdown. The SP is a part of Melissa, because it has been mentioned that the glass coffin is inside The Queen, inside Melissa. Therefore, Melissa+SP=Durga. But wait, if they all came from the AI nicknamed 'The Operator', how can that be? Unless...unless Durga is The Operator, (load the jump program. Sorry, I couldn't resist Razz

), with memory loss.

BTW, Melissa honestly believes us to be her crew.

**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:32 pm

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Motoss · Decorated Joined: 06 Aug 2004 Posts: 170 Location: Ohio

It is pretty much confirmed at this point that Durga was created from Yasmine. If Durga and Melissa are two pieces of the same AI, then that means Melissa was created from Yasmine as well. Has anyone mentioned Yasmine to Melissa during live calls?

**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 7:46 pm

Starblade · Veteran Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 94

I just thought of something related to the Flea, but am unsure if it means anything.

The SERE mantra Melissa had was:
Survive
Evade
Resist
Escape

To quote the Flea:
!Evade
!Evade
!Evade

That is also, iirc, the first word of english we hear the PF say, unrelated to his Truth mantra. Just wanted to point that out. So, do you think it means something, or just that it got that from Melissa, as it did 'creepy'.

**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 8:43 pm

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We firmly believe that Melissa and Durga are the same entity...
existing in two different times...

In my theory, Durga is the program being affected by the events of ILB, and after the crash of the apocolypso (emergency upload mabey? "turn_you_off.wav")
In the original timeline, she eventually finds the artifact (assuming it has temproal distortive properties) and traverses time, "crashes" in 2004 and becomes who we know as Melissa.

Melissa is effecting Durga, but slightly. Durga thinks about bees, melissa says she's hiding things from her, so on so forth.
Say, in a daized maneuver, durga uploads her repairing module (the SPDR) to Mel. Mel.'s already altered/damaged SPDR, the PF assumes command as it is the "newer" version (hence why it may have been altered and replaced making it newer). this slows the repair process, and the PF takes command of part of the link to durga by replacing the SPDR.

Durga is seeking and beholding people, and she doesn't know why... something is controlling her/ influenceing her.
Remember the SPDR is part of Durga.

Kamal is quoted reccently as saying that the entity ghosting him is likly not an AI or person, but a command process (like the PF/SPDR)

I would sya that the "more complete" understanding of the truth that mel has over durga, is what makes her the future durga that traveled time...

[SPEC of SPEC]
The questions are why was the PF modified, (to find kamal because he went offline? to find the truth about the apocolypso?) and why did durga eventually try to change history? (to prevent yassmine's abduction? perhaps the SP persona overcomes durga at some point?)
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**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:00 pm

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**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:13 pm

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AlexofMaceidon · Veteran Joined: 11 Sep 2004 Posts: 103

As far as Melissa=Durga, I agree with you. But we know now they aren't THE same person. I firmly agree with StarBlade that Durga is sort of zip drive version of Melissa, rebooted and for some reason missfired into Jersey's computer. Until Durga got these files unlocked for her, and we saw it happen
The continuum changed when that happened, The way we have to think about these .wavs changed. Until then, I (and I think most of the communty along with me, correct me if I'm wrong) thought the recordings could have taken place at any time in the distant future of the Halo universe, but now we know that we are hearing about these things as they happen for Durga and Melissa. Also we are given a point of reference in this contunity. The fall of reach happened, and correct me if I'm wrong by a week, roughly two weeks ago to Durga. What does this mean? go check your local halo story timeline. 2552 Aug 30 was the date of the Reach. So, if we've read the books/looked at the timeline, we can predict the near future for our fair characters.

Lets get cracking.

**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 10:30 pm

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**Posted:** Wed Oct 13, 2004 11:47 pm

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**Posted:** Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:13 am

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Digiwizzard · Boot Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 23

**Posted:** Thu Oct 14, 2004 2:45 am