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[SPEC|15/10 Spoilers] What is Oni Up To?
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[SPEC|15/10 Spoilers] What is Oni Up To?

Okay, after listening to all the wave files it's becomming obvious to me that Oni (Specifically Standish) is up to something. They seem all too aware of the Artifact, and when somebody comes too close to the truth (Herzog) they get killed.

Now I can understand why they would want to keep the public from knowing (an artifact pulsing energy that is slowly fading away like a countdown timer would freak any person out) but why stop their own men, especially high-up ones, from finding out? Do they already know what the artifact is?

We now understand that the artifact is the truth. Hence the reason that the Flea keeps on going !Reveal>Chawla Base. This makes it more apparent that the Flea is a covenant AI. Finding Earth And/Or the Artifact would be a priority. But if it is really Durga who is going to be revealing the truth, what does he get out of changing Melissa's mission priotities to "seek, behold, reveal", especially if she is not doing it (Melissa is trying to hide the truth, it seems)

If the Artifact is the truth, does that mean the 'decaying timer' on it is counting down to the revealing of the truth? And if so, what 'truth' is it that ONI wants to hide?

The main question is, how much does ONI now know from these artifacts? We know from the past in the Halo books that there have been several artifacts, one, if I remember correctly, currently in the hands of ONI and was last on Reach. They most likely had a lot of time to research it before the glassing of Reach, so what did they learn?

Fact is, ONI is hiding something, and it seems everything going on at the moment has to do with this thing being revealed. If the Flea is truly covenant, then we're helping the Earth be destroyed. But then, if it is Oni that is corrupted, we're doing the right thing.

Right now, my bet goes with the Flea... that Standish sounds far too sinister for my liking.
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who wants to bet the artifact countdown ends november 9th? Razz hehe
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thebruce wrote:
who wants to bet the artifact countdown ends november 9th? Razz hehe


The Austrailian Site gives it away.

It shows the Covenant Attacking different Cities all at 00:00:00 Nov.9th

Check it out if you have not seen it yet.
Halo2.com.au


edit: fixed the link
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DeceptaconS wrote:
thebruce wrote:
who wants to bet the artifact countdown ends november 9th? Razz hehe


The Austrailian Site gives it away.

It shows the Covenant Attacking different Cities all at 00:00:00 Nov.9th

Check it out if you have not seen it yet.
Halo2.com.au


edit: fixed the link

Sorry to upset - but it doesn't give away anything - OF COURSE the Covenant attack on Nov 9 - that's the whole point of the game - as far as we know. The question here is - what relavance does the artifact have with the countdown and nov 9th? Is it a Covenant artifact? I'm betting on forerunner artifact - In fact I'm betting the Covenant invade, not only to hipe humanity as their religious creedo suggest (can we say ji-had?), but also to recover this artifact. I'm sticking with forerunner. Still, the decay_timer.......

[EDIT] As far as Oni goes... if it was a WMD why would Oni bring it to Earth and let it detonate there?..... Even Standish isn't that dumb... Is he?
I'm betting That Oni might have uncovered a forerunner technology that they believe will help turn the tides. They had plenty of time to decode the symbols on Reach, so maybe now they know what is written on the artifacts casing.... At least certain section(s) of Oni anyway. Hmm sounds like the CIA, FBI, and Military Intel - factions of their own reich and never sharing info to get an edge on other factions - Ultimately to the demise of their fellow beings.....
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Some wild SPEC, here...

In First Strike (if I'm remembering correctly- I don't have my copy with me at the moment), one of the major plot points circles around the fact that Cortana finds a massive coordinated countdown on Covenant networks, leading to the invasion of Earth. Is it possible that this device is one of many being used by the Covenant as a "timer"?

If this SPEC is correct, this would indicate that:

(a) The Covenant already know the location of Earth. I'm pretty sure (but can't verify, since the HBO story timeline seems to be down... grr!) that the battle at the Unyielding Heirophant occurs very close, chronologically, to the destruction of Halo itself. This would indicate that the Covenant have known Earth's location for some time, possibly since the glassing of Reach, and have spent the intervening marshalling their forces for the attack.

(b) The device is the only way for the UNSC to get advance warning of the timing of the attack.

If ONI Section 3 is unaware of this, they're jeopardizing all of Earth's population by their secrecy. Judging from the bureaucratic bumbling we've seen in the past, I wouldn't put this past them.

If, however, they do know about this... well, hmm. The reasons DM gave for hiding it from the general public are sound, but like him, I'm confused as to why they'd hide it from other military higher-ups.

Thoughts?

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Well... we don't yet know if the artifact is counting down to November 9th when the Covenant invade, or if it's counting down to some point in time beyond that, and the Covenant are trying to get it before it does.
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Is it still at all possible that this device is a covy trojan horse?

A device used to seek out the location of earth?
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DeceptaconS wrote:
thebruce wrote:
who wants to bet the artifact countdown ends november 9th? Razz hehe


The Austrailian Site gives it away.

It shows the Covenant Attacking different Cities all at 00:00:00 Nov.9th

Check it out if you have not seen it yet.
Halo2.com.au


edit: fixed the link


At that time on November 9, Halo 2 is released, so that is why the covenant are seen invading-because Halo 2 is officially on store shelves.

As far as ONI goes, if there were forerunner weaponry that was useful to us (Lets face it, the controlled laser stream is pitiful, and wiping the galaxy clean of all sentient life will do us little good) it would exist in the covenant technology currently, since they tried to duplicate the weapons the Forerunner created.

No, I think that this artifact is far more important than a weapon. What do we know about it? It is tire-shaped, it has a message along the 'rim', and now it is sending out a controlled, depleting pulse. I have no doubt it is forerunner, we have to remember there are only a handfull of humans aware of the forerunner, and they are the ones who survived Halo. All the artifacts were considered covenant because they resembled covenant items. Where as really, it was the other way around.

In Freelancer, an alien artifact is found and later in the game turns out to be a map. Not important? It was the complete opposite. The map allowed them to find the alien home world and destroy their creations.

This could be similar. However, I've never seen a roadmap that counts down.

Thinking about it... I think I have something. We know Melissa was the AI on the apocalypso, and that she was transported to the past. Is it possible it IS counting down to November 9, and that when the countdown ends, Melissa is transported back to the future, where we will later encounter her in the game?

Hmn...
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I'd like to speculate and all, but i'm too afraid i'll catch the ONI Flu...
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If this thing is counting down to a big BOOM, then what's to stop Section 3 from just giving it to the Covenant? Either the thing blows up and annihilates the Covenant fleet, or the Covenant take it back to their homeworld, and then kaboom.

This is, of course, assuming the the Covenant are ignorant of what the artifact can do, and they just want it because it's Forerunner, and therefore holy to them.

Or, and here's a completely WILD SPEC, what if it's counting down to the return of the Forerunner? I've got nothing to back this up, but it's a possibility.

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I think I've solved the mystery of the decaying signal:

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It's low on batteries! =D


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Of course, this SPEC assumes that Section 5 realises the artifact is emitting a decay timer..

/No further SPEC, just an observation
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Re: [SPEC|15/10 Spoilers] What is Oni Up To?

DM wrote:
But if it is really Durga who is going to be revealing the truth, what does he get out of changing Melissa's mission priotities to "seek, behold, reveal", especially if she is not doing it (Melissa is trying to hide the truth, it seems)

I have a suspicion that Flea is slapping himself now. He successfully converted Melissa to his mantra, but she misunderstood and is applying it differently. This, of course, is just wild SPEC, but I like to think Flea's not proud of his latest "recruit".
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Re: [SPEC|15/10 Spoilers] What is Oni Up To?

Platonix wrote:
DM wrote:
But if it is really Durga who is going to be revealing the truth, what does he get out of changing Melissa's mission priotities to "seek, behold, reveal", especially if she is not doing it (Melissa is trying to hide the truth, it seems)

I have a suspicion that Flea is slapping himself now. He successfully converted Melissa to his mantra, but she misunderstood and is applying it differently. This, of course, is just wild SPEC, but I like to think Flea's not proud of his latest "recruit".


I am concerned about the Flea starting to have such an effect on the SP. If he is covenant, the SP and/or Durga may be our only hope of stopping him.
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Buzzkill247 wrote:
not only to wipe humanity as their religious creedo suggest (can we say ji-had?)


What do YOU MEAN by the usage of the term "ji-had?"

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