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underscore_b
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[SPEC] !attach princess

Buzz buzz.

I've been following discussions here and on Dana's blog since the inception, and one Sticky postulated a theory that Melissa is a fractured form of Durga, experiencing a number of disassociated identities as discussed elsewhere in this forum. However, Sticky's Freudian interpretation was that the Queen/Operator is the Ego, the Sleeping Princess the Id, and the Pious Flea is not a Covenant program, but the Superego. Having thought carefully about this, I am convinced, and furthermore believe that we can rescue Dana and return Melissa to her original, balanced state by recombining the three.

The key to all of this is the Pious Flea. The Queen obviously considers him a friend, and he has attempted to attach himself to the Sleeping Princess at every available opportunity. However, we must convince her to let him !grope. As I have posted on Dana's blog, SP has indicated that she is missing her friends and wants to know that they still love her. While we no longer have a secure email address for SP, the Operator is requesting images from her crewmembers, and if we could find wasps willing to undertake the mission, we could encrypt the source code of these images with the following message:

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Dearest Princess,
We are doing everything we can to help you. But we need you to do everything you can to help yourself. We think that if you attach to the Pious Flea, you might be strong enough to challenge the Queen. It is hard to explain why, but you must trust us. When we hope you will take a chance on us, we do this :$
Love,
Your friends.

P.S.- How can we talk to the Flea? Has he built himself a secret road?
P.P.S- Tell the Flea to Resist Revealing this.

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If you can help in any way, shape or form, please post to confirm. The sooner we can rebalance Melissa, the more hope there is for Dana, Margaret, and mankind.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 6:47 pm
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DeceptaconS
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Re: [SPEC] !attach princess

Dude... The Pious Flea is BAD!!!
That thing got the SPDR killed and then acted as if it was the new version.


  • Lies
  • Deceit
  • Secrecy
  • Manipulation


And you are suggesting that we trust the little evil devil. What we need to do is convince Melissa that the SP is actually a better Version of the SPDR. Thus, she should delete the Pious Flea.

Now that sounds like a real plan.
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underscore_b
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Buzz buzz.

DeceptaconS, point of information: the Operator killed the SPDR, not the Pious Flea.

Also, please supply evidence of alleged lies, secrecy, deceit (redundant) and manipulation.
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 7:12 pm
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Trynian
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Well, I can do that, though I'm still not sure as to the true nature of the Flea. It lied when it said it was a better version of the SPDR than the real one. The fact that the operator killed the Widow, not the Flea itself, is immaterial -- it was the Flea who caused the Widow to be killed by its little masquerade. It then manipulated the Operator into taking on its mission parameters as her own. I'm not so sure about the "secrecy" bit, though, since it's intent on "revealing" as much as possible.

The question is this: why does it want to reveal so much? And most importantly: to whom? If your theory about the Flea is correct, then sure, !attach away...but I'm not sure I buy it. And if it is, in fact, a Covenant program, than letting it attach to anything is bad idea.

*shrugs* Not that the Princess is going to trust us enough to let the Flea kiss her, anyway, not without some other major event happening first.

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underscore_b wrote:
Buzz buzz.


The Operator is Melissa.... First off
So.. that means the Pious Flea Tricked her into thinking it was the New Version of the SPDR

Scattered Text on Ilovebees wrote:


Pious Flea: System Peril Distributed Reflex

SPDR: success msg: system peril distributed reflex
!verify vnum

Pious Flea: SPDR-5.14.77

SPDR: !compare vnum SPDR-5.14.3 > SPDR-5.14.77
vnum seq unk

Pious Flea: surg:
!invoke master-sector command
proc master-sector

The Operator/Melissa: What?

SPDR: surg:
!diag unk proc system peril distributed reflex
rogue proc 1 confidence 91

Pious Flea : !compare vnum SPDR-5.14.77 >> SPDR-5.14.3

surg:
!extend system peril distributed reflex>>master-sector command proc
When the widow was
broken to bits, nobody
seemed very upset.

The Operator/Melissa: Very well. Delete the older version.


Perhaps you should visit theBruce's Website and read over all the Transcripts.
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Buzz buzz.

DeceptaconS, is it possible that the Flea really is a more advanced version of the Widow?

EDIT: Read the transcripts and noted description of the Pious Flea as a "nasty little infestation", however SP has never been one to be taken literally...it could simply be referring to his handle.
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Well with that said.... I think Both of us have a Difference in Opinion.
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Interesting spec, however, I'm in the "don't really trust the flea" camp. He used the equivilent of social engineering to get the SPDR deleted and himself taking it's place. But he did help the SP from getting recaptured after her release (Melissa has something planned, so we'll see how long she can hide for). So far, I don't think we've see any hard evidence that would make the flea a bad guy or a good guy. The fact that the flea has been around for so long, and we still don't know his motives, where he came from, etc. is pissing me off. I want answers!Smile I know he's got tricks up his sleeves and I think he's going to surprise us all in the next 3 weeks.
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underscore_b wrote:
Buzz buzz.

DeceptaconS, is it possible that the Flea really is a more advanced version of the Widow?

No, no it's not. Some day, everyone is going to understand this and I can stop explaining it...if you read TheBruce's transcripts, you'll have seen that the scene quoted by DeceptaconS was the third time PF tried to fool SPDR. The first time, SPDR asked PF for an SPDR version number, and PF responded with zero. I dare you to offer a scenario in which that could be anything other than a dumbfounded guess.
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Quote:
Buzz buzz.

DeceptaconS, is it possible that the Flea really is a more advanced version of the Widow?

EDIT: Read the transcripts and noted description of the Pious Flea as a "nasty little infestation", however SP has never been one to be taken literally...it could simply be referring to his handle.


It's been discussed before, why would a SPDR call itself a seeker, and seek the truth instead of repairing damage and eventually leaving the limelight entirely?

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The Flea is GOOD. Really!

He didn't trick Melissa into deleting the SPDR to hurt her, but to help her... the SPDR was a dumb program, and was actually hurting Melissa by trying to reconstruct her separately from the Sleeping Princess.

The SPDR wants to reveal the truth about the artifact to the good guys... he's friends with the Sleeping Princess and helps her avoid capture... he's not dumb, but a completely misunderstood bug... he's on our side!

He's the SP's Prince Charming, but she doesn't know it yet. Just like kissing a frog turns it into a prince, we've got to convince the Sleeping Princess to !attach with the Pious Flea. He's the only one who can unite the Sleeping Princess and Melissa and Durga. He's the only one who can save Earth AND Dana AND Aunt Margaret by helping the SP gain control.

So, please go to the polls, and vote for the Flea to !attach to the Sleeping Princess.

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Cherry Cotton
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The problem is, when the Pious Flea first tried to put the moves on our dear Princess, she reacted with something like, "eww, I know what happens to girls you kiss!"

(And recognize that I'm just playing devil's advocate, I'm not saying your idea is bad, actually, I quite like it, I'm just very very skeptical given the uncertain nature of the PF and all that's at stake)

Maybe someone who gets a live call from the SP (HINT HINT) can ask her, "so, Ms. Princess, what DOES happens to girls he kisses?"

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Hello all,
There is always a solution to a problem, although the best solution is not always the most obvious. The solution in this case is to assist Dana while at the same time NOT harm the Sleeping Princess(SP). Dana's objective is to neutralize the SP, or she faces the consequences of having Melissa (the Operator, the Queen) harm Aunt Margaret. In order to achieve both objectives (neutralize the SP, and not have Aunt Margaret hurt)we need only provide Dana with a way to combine the SP with the Pious Flea. Thus the SP would be neutralized (she would not exist in the same form), and Dana would suceed, and we will be able to retain the SP's help and services.

In order to do this, WE (EVERYONE on this forum, in the wiki blogs, chat rooms, and other blogs) need to e-mail Dana( danatwingSPLATgmail.com ) and provide her with the solution. Perhaps the best way to do this is to tell Dana to communicate with the SP in the same way that we have been communicating with her. She should send, via e-mail, pictures with messages in them to the SP and convience her to merge with the Pious Flea. If Dana can do this then the new entity (Pious Flea + Sleeping Princess = Pious Princess or Sleeping Flea??) might be able to work with Melissa in order to repair the AI, and allow Melissa to complete her mission.

If you have any suggestions or comments, post here or e-mail me 7.GrifterSPLATGmail.com.

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buzz buzz, hehehehe
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So taking my own tip here is the e-mail that I sent to Dana. You may use any part of this if you wish.

Dana,

There is always a solution to a problem, although the best solution is not always the most obvious. The solution in this case is to assist you while at the same time NOT harm the Sleeping Princess(SP). Your objective is to neutralize the SP, or you face the consequences of having Melissa (the Operator, the Queen) harm Aunt Margaret. In order to achieve both objectives (neutralize the SP, and not have Aunt Margaret hurt) I suggest that you find a way to combine the SP with the Pious Flea. Thus the SP would be neutralized (she would not exist in the same form), and You would suceed, and we will be able to retain the SP's help and services.

In order to do this, you will need to communicate with the SP in the same way that we (Melissa's new crew) have been communicating with her. You should send, via e-mail, pictures with messages in them to the SP and convience her to merge with the Pious Flea. If you can do this then the new entity (Pious Flea + Sleeping Princess = Pious Princess or Sleeping Flea??) might be able to work with Melissa in order to repair the AI, and allow Melissa to complete her mission without bring harm to yourself, Aunt Margert, or the SP.

Look on your blog, in the wiki blogs, chats, and forums for information on how to imbed a message into a picture. Explain to the SP your dilema and explain that her "friends" don't want anything to happen to Aunt Margaret, nor to her. Try to make it seem like a game as she enjoys games and plays them frequently with the crew.

If she does not comply and merge with the Pious Flea, tell her that you will be forced to remove, eliminate, delete, purge, or cut and NOT paste her out of the system.

Grifter_7, Intelligence Officer
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