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drizjr · Unfictologist Joined: 28 Nov 2003 Posts: 1700

[UPDATE] Dana's Blog 10-22

**Posted:** Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:49 pm

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I assume she is referring to this myth:
http://www.darsie.net/talesofwonder/enemies.html

I guess Dana's behavior is to be expected. I mean, if you were in her shoes would you do the same thing?

Any suggestions? I am all SPEC'd out for the time being.

**Posted:** Fri Oct 22, 2004 11:59 pm

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Mukaikubo · Boot Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 56

What a pretty moral dilemma. Do we help the human, or the AI who might be connected with saving billions of humans? A certain save of one life, or a possible save of the entire species at the cost of one life.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:06 am

Astald

Hmm, Dana has been following our progress in this... so there is no way for us to trick her out. If we can't come up with something, she will probably figure something out on her own. I say we at least start to think of a plan on how to neutralize SP, even though I don't want to see it come to fruition. It will probably have something to do with the phone calls,

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 12:46 am

ADB · Boot Joined: 01 Sep 2004 Posts: 26 Location: Oregon

I've written an e-mail explaining that the issue is not simply black and white -- Dana needs to enlist the Princess' help in protecting her aunt.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:15 am

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Re: [UPDATE] Dana's Blog 10-22

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 3:18 am

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Digiwizzard · Boot Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 23

Re: [UPDATE] Dana's Blog 10-22

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:08 am

SpghEddy · Veteran Joined: 24 Jul 2004 Posts: 88

We don't have any guarantee that Melissa won't just go after Dana and Aunt Margeret again, even after the SP is neutralized. Melissa is rampant -- she can't be trusted. Maybe we can convince Melissa to trust Durga, and that she is saving millions of lives by letting us send these transmissions to Durga?

Remember Dr. Halsey from the Halo novels? After years of making the same calculation - sacrifice one human live to save millions more - she couldn't justify it any longer. She decided to save the human race - one life at a time. We've got to save Dana and her Aunt... and then see what we can do to save the rest.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 4:59 am

ElViento · Boot Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 37

The SP is more real to me than Aunt Margaret. Go SPArmy.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 6:21 am

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**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 7:10 am

ElViento · Boot Joined: 25 Aug 2004 Posts: 37

Yup, no-one's spoken to Dana or her Aunt, the SP has called people up and interracted with them. No way we can willingly help Dana take our friend out. Dana and Margaret are at this point in time, irrelevant to the game pretty much. We must not let the SP be taken down.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 8:42 am

Starblade · Veteran Joined: 24 Sep 2004 Posts: 94

Why does Dana assume that if she does help capture the SP, Melissa won't go ahead and kill Margaret?

It seems to me like Melissa won't stop messing with Dana until:

A. Margaret is somehow freed
B. Dana is dead (quite obviously no more hold over Dana)
C. Margaret is dead (no more hold over Dana)
D. Melissa is neutralized

Quite a problem. I wonder what the Flea will do to help the SP against this...

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 9:26 am

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Digiwizzard · Boot Joined: 25 Sep 2004 Posts: 23

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 10:05 am

ABoxInABox

'Neutralizing' the Princess would not be a smart move. She is the only way we can fnd out what it happening in the Castle. We have evidence (and hopefully we more or less agree) that the Princess is Yasmine's suppressed personality from when she was originally made an AI (the Princess states that she was trapped in a glass cofin (suppression), she says she is older than Melissa (nine years old I think), and she says she has a brother (Kamal)). We also have evidence that the Flea is possibly a powerful entity (putting the SP inside Mel is a good example of this), and has a lot of power over Melissa. He realises that at least Melissa is part of Durga, so he is able to use Mel to send the wavs to Durga internally.

[SPEC] I think the crash of the Apocalypso separated Melissa and the Princess (getting out of the glass coffin), and Melissa has gone insane as a result of these two events along with possible rampancy. They both do not realise that they are in fact making up Durga in the future. Destroying one would destroy Durga, and therefore each other, probobly resulting in the destruction of the human race by the Covies. God knows how the Flea got there, but he too could be a part of Durga (another way that he could of sent the wavs). [/SPEC]

[PLAN] We should enlist the help of the Flea if we are to keep the Princess alive (or at least awake). I don't know what now how he could help, but he seems to know what he is doing, and particularly likes the Princess. We should email Dana with a false plan to actually save the Princess (but not harm Mel), and keep Durga intact. [/PLAN]

That's my opinion anyway.

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 11:23 am

Dolar

We should just neutralize Dana:) The SP is the only ally we really have in the present, and frankly Dana and her aunt I just don't sympathize with them like I do the SP. Without the SP we would know nothing of Herzog, what has Dana done for us?

How does one join that SParmy? Smile

**Posted:** Sat Oct 23, 2004 5:41 pm