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[weephun]

[WhiteGulls]

Well, I don't know about anyone else, but when I answered my personal axon today (yay for forgetting your cell phone!) Mel seemed to have... moments, I guess, where she just sounded so much like the Princess. Too similar IMO. Maybe... She's starting to degrade after doing that? Or was this there yesterday? Or weeks before. Perhaps, the SP lives on in Mel somehow.

[vector]

I am going to put my opinion in that SP is not dead. and heres why.

Without the SP the Flea has no where else to go or do. As we have seen he does not have the full control over Melissa that everyone thought early on. He is now stuck in the past with Melissa unable to reveal the truth. Melissa is left to do nothing but hinder Durga's attempts to find the truth and possably stop the assalt on Chawla base by the Durga Team. Basicaly i belive that without Yasmine/SP the story stagnates.

So heres my [spec] and hopes
the Pious Flea is not a covie spie but a process put in by Herzog, and PF was able to !grope and some how save SP and we will see her again. My hope is that ultimatly she will be taken back to the future and be a seporate AI from Durga. Durga stays with Jersey, Yasmine is reunited with Kamal, they cut the link between Durga and Melissa who is then left to fester in ILB webserver untill its thrown out.

[Digitally l33t]

If it's a recording, it may be the same.

My only regret is that we weren't given enough time to truly pick sides.

But maybe that's the brilliance of Melissa. She was recruiting us to destroy SP and we had NO idea.

Granted, I didn't mind, because I'm intensely supportive of the operator, but as a player, I can't help but feel played.

[Slothboy]

[Spec4Ski]

My turn to fire of emotionally charged Comments

The SP got nabbed by a combined effort from crew loyal to both factions.
There was no evil plot by the Melissa Faction to trick anyone this caught all of us by surprise.

Yes I feel bad that she got caught. I had the chance to talk to her And she really seemed like a nice little girl but she was warned, she thought she was able to beat the queen, she made the mistake.

Lets not forget that the reason Durga thought she was going Rampant was from the actions of Flea and princess send her the wav files.

The picture is only now fully coming into focus. I think this Sun will be very telling. I for one will await my orders and due my assigned tasks

[CoffeeJedi]

[daboking]

sleeping princess, you may be gone, but not forgotten. As long as the light of this candle continues to flicker, so do our hopes that you will be found alive and well.


now, Godwin's law... how interesting, and useful.(seen too many instances in the past where I wish I had known of this) hmmmm

[Spec4Ski]

[johnny5]

I'm going to chime in and add my little bit of dubious opinion, spec, and explanatory exposition.

My mind is weighing several concepts at the moment, so I'll just throw them out at random.

• If the "suppressed personality" is meant to be kept locked away, hidden, and inaccessible from the AI, wouldn't the release of that personality constitute a rogue process?
  
• If the AI is a military weapon, the personality should not be allowed to interact or influence the AI as that would compromise the AI's effectiveness. In that case, Melissa Eliminating SP would make no difference in her operations.
  
• The SP was released as a sentient entity due to the crash, prior to which she was locked in a "glass coffin". Does this mean that every military AI constructed from a human mind contains a sentient entity restrained from interaction but fully cognizant of it's surroundings? Can this be construed as torture?
  
• If Melissa reintegrates the Durga construct/avatar, will the SP be "reborn", yet still locked away?
  

My last thought concerns the method of time travel, so I will post it in the "broadcast"
thread.

[krystyn]

Max Damage,

I sent a long-ass e-mail to Dana explaining what I thought should be done. I had gotten a special commendation in the analog photo thinger, and so I was replying to Melissa's request for help in figuring out what the Rogue Process was, and if she was a virus. (eta that I generally loathe sending in-game e-mails. I did it for this game, and I did it to an extent for the Beast, but it feels stilted and goofy to me, so sending this e-mail was a bit trying.)

I was heartfelt, as clear as I could be, based on the information given, and at no point did any of my proposed action intend any harm to the SP. If anything, I likened her to a firewall, for all the groping and attaching the Flea was trying to do, she resisted until the very end ...

The PM's chose to use NONE of my suggestions, as far as I can tell. I have read and heard about at least a dozen other e-mails sent to Dana proposing different courses of action, all defending and/or protecting the SP in some way. Some peeps did not, of course.

You claim you are frustrated by the people who don't even know who Kamal is, or what the Spartan program is all about. How should we, the people who tried to save the SP, feel about you not reading up on these threads and seeing all the evidence that we have laid out, at our attempts to prevent the very thing the PM's went ahead with anyway?

Man, throw the word 'stupid' around all you want, but it's not likely to win you any support in your low-level crusade. I think there is still some hope that she exists in some form, but ... if she is truly gone, I know I did the best I could with the information I had.

[gains]

Orders are orders.

If you joined the crew or the SPArmy, you signed up in the service of a military vessel's controlling AI.

Whether anyone had real control over the story after that point can be easily stifled by chain-of-command.

Ma'am, yes ma'am.

[KrunkSplein]

I'm just upset that after all of this, there are only four sites at which we could muster, and they are all far, far away from me. Shame on you, bungie.

[Slothboy]

[SuperDiamond]

Watch any war movie. You know the guy who is showing off pictures of his family and talking about going home after this mission? Guess what always happens to him.

The SP was doing the same thing, and this is technically a war story. I wish I could say I saw this coming, but I didn't. Hindsight being 20/20, it's perfectly obvious.

I am continually impressed with the PM's ability to stir the forums into a frenzy. Weephun was the first person to recieve the ire of the community. Thin Kinkle was next. (Not to compare the two. I still think Weephun played his role beautifully) This time we don't really have a target, since we all played a role.

So... Who's answering phones next week?