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[Phaedra]

[Darketnal]

Well, I'm not even 100% convinced SP was Yasmine. She did have access to the exact same files as we do, including the ones that named Yasmine and set her up as Kamal's brother. If she was a covenenant intrustion program, why not choose that identity? It seems to work, it's impossible for us to actually check, and it's quite endearing. Plus, the persona hides behavior that would otherwise make us suspicious. And given that Melissa was talking in her voice, I'm not even sure we can trust that the 'princess' wasn't a covie infiltrator playing us like a harp, while being quite more succesful at infiltrating the op then any of us knew.

She was cute and adorable and like to play games. But, you know, there's a real possibility that she's an agent sent to locate earth or otherwise doom the human race. And I'd personally like to be sure she wasn't trying to kill us all before I mourn her all too much.

Even if she wasn't...well, she's been going around Sabotaging Melisa's work for weeks now. And last time, she did kinda say she was looking for a way to kill Melissa. 14 or 6 or cute or whatever, if you're a saboteur planning murder, well, risk is part of the package, y'know.

[Phaedra]

META. Very much so.

[altris]

Well said Phaedra!

[Digitally l33t]

We have to think about it in terms of results. We don't know what the results are yet. Melissa says that she may be leaving soon.

This could be our discharge. It could be the end all to our problems.
Hard feelings aside, we still do not know why Melissa is trapped in 2004, but if she leaves all together, we will be unable to affect any change in 2552.

So while we may mourn (or celebrate) SP's elimination, we may have very little, in the long run, to fear.

[kulpdogg]

as said from the very begining...

Make your decisions accordingly.

everyone who played had different choices to make, and didnt have a lot of time to think them over.
things happened because we made them happen.
you could choose to help Melissa, or betray her. so many different decisions to make in this whole game. and i think it went quite well.

the sleeping princess is gone because she was ment to be gone. could we of stopped this from happening? maybe, but we cant time travel now can we.

we'll all learn "the truth" of this whole game soon enough.
until then, go along for the ride and relax.
after all, its just a game

[vector]

[weephun]

[krystyn]

Melissa did not ever allow us to be logical, and I think that is a big part of what is frustrating to so many of us.

She kept things from us, so we were never sure what she might've been keeping from herself, or what gaps in her knowledge occurred because of SPDR repairing her, or the Killer trying to fix her aunt's website ...

Because she gave me an incomplete set of data to work from, even though she continually emphasized trust, initiative, loyalty - in essence, a moral code, she appears illogical to me. She appears to be broken. I am OK with this, because it is the only logical conclusion I can come to, with the things I know.

I don't care much about MPD, or the psychological troubles ascribed to humans, when it comes to Melissa. She is a highly complex set of processes that has been broken in ways unknown to pretty much anyone in this strange passion play. She sneers at how the Sleeping Princess preyed on our emotions so that we allied with her, but what did Melissa do in the very first week of live calls?

She asked about loneliness.
She asked about revenge.

She asked me about movies, and what sort of stories they told. With trepidation, she asked if there were movies about shipwrecks.

Hook, line, sinker. The things that she loathed the SP for were some of the very methods she herself employed to get us to align with her. She just had a sleeker demeanor, a more commanding tone, a promise of reward for outstanding duty. Never once did she appear to listen to us when we tried to tell her about the Flea. She routinely ignored that.

Despite NOT BEING ABLE TO SEE the SP, she still convinced herself that she was the virus. She did not use our abilities, she used us.

I also don't much care for the weighing of human life against A.I., as if it were a pageant, and Melissa loses because she can't hologram a nice enough swimsuit - she was and is an entity responsible for at least 40 human lives aboard that ship, and she carried on a set of tasks that would probably take a human crew three times the size to do poorly. The worth here to human life is not comparable. Plasma grenades and floodlings, apples and oranges.

We were not given enough information, and Melissa did not use us in the way we thought we could help. We were parts of a machine, and not much else.

That's pretty frustrating.

[Gram]

[Akodo Bob]

Perhaps this is a good thing. some [SPEC]

[SuperJerms]

[SuperJerms]

Re: Thoughts

[krystyn]

Then there are those of us who believed that there were choices that could be made that wouldn't kill or destroy anyone in this scenario ...

[Nightmare Tony]

Nightmare Tony wrote:
And as official SPArmy Chandler, a candle must be lit to the memory of our dear Princess. For now she sleeps once again, with the flight of angels.

To Melissa's crew: God help you, for the Princess was all that remained of the humanity of Melissa. You will crave the human comfort of a Bin Laden or Hitler compared to what you are about to do...


I beg your pardon?

Pray, explain your analogy.

I find the last sentence both incoherent and incomprehensible.



Phaedra, the comparison applies more to what Mellisa wqill become. The crewmembers will have to become far more loyal than before from an imperfect Machiavellian type (who can sing a mean duet of Amazing Grace), into one who learned to act with utter ruthlessness and lack of compassion.

Ergo, the death of SP was all that remained of Melissa's humainty side.

The end line, I wish the crew well for the acts they will have to do. We've seen some members inform on traitorous acts. GAMEWISE, Melissa will be far more forceful in that regard now. Having to invoke names covered by (great, who was that law again?) would give a basis of reference point.

To quote or rather paraphrase form a book I have long forgotten: "Even the lowly spider or protozoan was the twin brother to the human mind compared to the alien thought processes"

But you get the idea.

And if you wonder, I am not mad or super emotional concerning this. Its a heck of a game, a lot of fun, and it plays our heartstrings like a violin. And yes, I DID light a candle I keep in the bathroom for the Sleeping Princess. Reality asserted when I blew it out a couple of minutes later when I had to get to work, since I dont leave open flames in the house.

Gamewise, I am named the Chandler of SParmy. I never swithched sides over as the crew. That kind of thing I think would bring about Melissa's ruthlessness pronto....