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So... I'm a guy, but it doesn't mean I'm gay if I want pics (+divx) of angelo, RITE?

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A Halo fan that did nothing until the Training Thing is an "ILB person".


Nope, see this is precisely where we disagree. And thats the root of the problem. I'm not gonna tell you you're wrong, you make some very valid points...but I personally don't believe the above statement to be true.
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archon wrote:
So... I'm a guy, but it doesn't mean I'm gay if I want pics (+divx) of angelo, RITE?


edit: AM I RITE?!

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It is fairly aggrivating to hear individuals try and explain the behavior of a group of people that he or she did not observe. First realize that your responses are based on faulty inferences of limited information. Then stop. Not that I actually want to lend creedance to that discussion, but make a thread for that other conversation if you really think you are contributing anything aside from flamebaiting.

Unless I'm confused, this is a thread for reports from those who actually went to the events, not discussions of canonicity or whether someone can be a Halo nut and a ARG'er.

Archon, clayfoot posted several pics earlier in this thread. Look for the goddess squad picture that features angelo. He's the guy that isn't named Chuck.
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Re: Phaedra, reporting in...

sorry superjerms... i agree with you, but i just wanted to finish this little piece up... (:

Scumbag wrote:

A Halo fan, being at the excercise, is 'involved' with ILB. Those people are involved only to get Halo 2 stuff, but it is involvment nonetheless.


involved only to get halo 2 stuff... while, yes, ilb was part of the halo universe,i don't think you can link the two that easily in regards to the type of conversation we're now having... we need to look at the creators of the game (4orty 2wo) and realize that this would probably have been something more of a get-together for the crew...

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A Halo fan doesn't need to be particularly sure what ILB is. The extent of a Halo player may be "ILB is that thing that we can see Halo 2 when its over" thing. If it is, they know all they need to know, in order to go to the Training Thing.


right, but it has nothing to do with ilb, the arg we've been playing, which culminated around another training op, the thing that yes, was a way of playing halo 2, but was also something for the crew (or rather, those who have been participating in whatever form)

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"ILB person" is a nothingness. A Halo fan who played ILB from the beginning is a "ILB person".
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A Halo fan that did nothing until the Training Thing is an "ILB person".
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A person who doesn't give 2 shits about Halo itself is a "ILB person".
true, but only if they've been following along... i mean, my dad's not a "ILB person" and i'm pretty sure he doesn't care about halo in the least...

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Man, I ain't in orbit around Lw'owon, am I? Cuz I'm laughing.

yes, haha, you're well-versed in marathon, congrats! you've also made your point with intellegence and understanding...

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If I was a person who just came to the Training Thing, and I saw people interested in ILB-related stuff instead of playing Halo, it isn't wrong of me to consider you less of a Halo player than myself.

Its a Halo 2 thing, and you're talking to some person instead of playing Halo 2. The hell? Its Halo 2, dude.

Do I agree? No. But I can understand it. They perceive your actions as a "lesser" Halo fan. Its not right, but it ain't wrong either. There is no right or wrong, only perception.


it's not a "halo 2 thing," it's our last training op where we get to play halo 2... i understand that you're only being a devil's advocate, but still...

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Too tired to do the search, but I guess I'm in orbit again. Hehehehe.

once again, there's that intellegence we've all come to know and love...

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I don't care about your gender one way or another. I assumed you're an ARGer because you're complaining about how some people - who didnt care much about ILB - overshadowed you and the way you played ILB.

Sorry, but thats what you get when you deal with a Bungle puzzle.


that doesn't even make sense... what does a "bungie puzzle" have anything to do with the rest of that statement? a bungie puzzle in no way regards hard work as something to overlook... that's just a rediculous statement...

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No, [the combat training was] basically the first chance for someone to play Halo 2 multiplayer. Doesn't matter if you're a hardworking crew member, or if you found out from Gamespot. Had it been what you said, I'm sure MS would have asked the news sites to get rid of the post.

The training excerise is a symbol of ILB itself. ILB was the pill that contained an advertisement, and the training excerise was a pill that contained a "play Halo 2 MP" package,

ILB was merely one facet of the Play Halo 2 MP Early advertisement. Other places did it too.


no, i think the real purpose of the training excersize was to get us (the players) together to hang out, meet with the game creators, have fun, and as a sidenote to all of that, play halo 2... microsoft may have wanted it to be mainly halo 2 thing, but in the spirit of the game (and i think the pm's would agree with me), it was suppossed to bring us together...
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I just got home from san fran. (I'm centered in los angeles). I had a great time up there, meeting everyone I saw posting here, and meeting the pms. I mostly talked to kristin and sean, I was involved in the economics of args talk mazian mentioned.

So many great moments that night so many in jokes shared, lots of general nerdiness.

One of the best moments was when I drove weephun and the boise crew to get thier bags in san fran. I have a navigation system in my car, which happens to have a female voice. So when it said "Right turn ahead" One of the boise crew proceeded to mention how much it reminded him of melissa, and how funny it would be if my car suddenyl said "Crewmember! turn right now". Classic.

I'm sure I'll think of more when my head clears from the drive Smile.

(Speaking of driving, whow as it who drove down from seattle again???? Major props man!)

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Nope, see this is precisely where we disagree.


Well, they let Halo fans who are completely ignorant of ILB to get in, and do things.

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How so? A Halo fan that does nothing but the training thing - an ILB thing - is an ILB Person.

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it's not a "halo 2 thing," it's our last training op where we get to play halo 2


Its not yours. It was public information, even before the gamespot announcement. They didnt email beekeepers. They didn't email the crew exclusively. There are ways to have done it that way. They didn't.

And while I am being slightly devil's advocate, I can see the other side's viewpoint so well that I do consider it far more convincing than "Only ILB folks should have been there".

The more I act as the devil's advocate for the mindset, the more I find I agree with it, thus making it my opinion. Do I share it fully? No. Is it convincing to me, because I already see ILB from a Halo-related standpont? Bingo.

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no, i think the real purpose of the training excersize was to get us (the players) together to hang out, meet with the game creators, have fun, and as a sidenote to all of that, play halo 2


Given the reports from people that said the ILB aspects was less favored than the H2MP situation... I don't think this flies.

But, whatever. Agree to disagree, yadda yadda yadda.
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Scumbag wrote:

Well, they let Halo fans who are completely ignorant of ILB to get in, and do things.


they let people into libraries and do stuff, they're not librarian... they let people into museums and they're not historians...

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How so? A Halo fan that does nothing but the training thing - an ILB thing - is an ILB Person.


but according to you, it wasn't an ilb thing, it was a halo 2 thing... see my above point...

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Its not yours. It was public information, even before the gamespot announcement. They didnt email beekeepers. They didn't email the crew exclusively. There are ways to have done it that way. They didn't.

And while I am being slightly devil's advocate, I can see the other side's viewpoint so well that I do consider it far more convincing than "Only ILB folks should have been there".

The more I act as the devil's advocate for the mindset, the more I find I agree with it, thus making it my opinion. Do I share it fully? No. Is it convincing to me, because I already see ILB from a Halo-related standpont? Bingo.


yes, they could have done it that way, and yes, it was made public knowledge, but we were told first... technically, if none of the game sites or anyother mediums reported it, it would have just been us... i know that's going to be called wishful thinking or something along those lines, but it was firstly our (beekeepers)

and i wasn't claiming that it was mine, i said it was ours... i see it from a halo perspective (i know my way around the bungie-verse), but i also see it from the arg world (i've been here since the beginning of this thing and have seen how real arg-ers operate)... i never participated hardcore in an arg before, i'm here because i saw the site at the end of the halo 2 trailer, but this whole thing was for hardcore halo fans and arg-ers... and i consider a hardcore halo fan one who pays attention to the story (i will finish the single player before i get on live)

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Given the reports from people that said the ILB aspects was less favored than the H2MP situation... I don't think this flies.


once again, 4orty 2wo probaly meant for this to be for the players, but it became something else... and the negative reports stemed from bad planning, rude kids, and whatever else anyone had to say, still, this was meant for us, regardless of what it turned into

but yes, yadda yadda yadda...
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I'm as impressed by Scumbag's assertion that the Halo 2 players who heard about the event on Gamespot, turned up, and alternated between asking "What the hell is I Love Bees?", snapping DVDs in half and playing Halo 2 are "ILBers" as anyone else here - you fight the power, buddy - but can we not let this thread get back onto its original topic?
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You know, I was going to just speak in generality, but the more I read, the more I see that Scumbag is the one individual who keeps harping on this. So much so that I feel like he's being intentionally antagonistic about this whole issue. It seems to me that he feels some personal need for everything to be about Halo 2, that nothing could ever be done for the sake only of ARG players. All this despite plenty of evidence to the contrary. (My list of evidence that this event was intended for the ARG players is detailed a few pages ago.)

Then, a page or so ago Scumbag wrote,

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A Halo fan that does nothing but the training thing - an ILB thing - is an ILB Person.


But a couple pages before that, he wrote,

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I think you're being a bit hard on non-ILB Halo fans.
(in reference to people who showed up to the event to play Halo 2 and weren't following ILB.)

But by his definition above, anyone who went to an ILB thing like the training event is by definition an ILB person, so there couldn't be any non-ILB Halo fans at the event.

Contradictory quotes like this are what lead me to believe that Scumbag is saying things, not to be logically consistent with his own viewpoint, but rather to be negative and antagonistic. I feel Scumbag is bothered by those of us who feel that the Halo 2 theme of the ARG is secondary to the fact that there is a good story and puzzles and immersive entertainment going on.

It's not just this thread either. Scumbag seems to have had this particular bug up his butt for a few months now.

Expressing an opinion and adding constructively to the forum discussions is great, but please feel free to keep negativity towards other viewpoints to yourself.

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I attended the NYC one... as others have said, it was rather poorly organized overall. I don't have a problem with non-ILB fans going, I just have a problem with the fact that I played and followed ILB from the beginning, and yet because my Amtrak train was delayed an hour and a half I didn't get to play Halo 2. I would've been happier with a random drawing type thing at the least, if not some sort of recognition and opportunity to play first due to being a crew member (not saying there aren't more deserving crewmembers out there, just that I thought that beekeepers should've had the right to play first). I also didn't understand why we had to wait outside in the rain when the movie theater had plenty of space inside.

That being said, it was rather fun to watch Halo 2 on the big screen, it had sort of a sporting event feel to it. That being said, afterwards I got the chance to meet up with Siege88, Digitallyl33t, Beowulf, bagsbee, and AnthraX and we got involved in some pretty great conversations, which definitely made the trip worth it.

So, yeah - a little disappointed that I didn't get to play but in the grand scheme of things I couldn't care less. Besides, on Monday at midnight Halo 2 will be mine, yes, my precioussss....

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BTW: The Goddess Squad lived up to their names in both beauty and intelligence. If any of them are still eligible, i suggest any intrested men start courting now. Hot chicks that can think for themselves and kick ass in Halo are a rare commodity.


Who cares why the annoying people were at the event!!! What I want to know is if any of the Goddess Squad like tall built men with blond hair and blue eyes..... Very Happy
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I think the answer to the question of whether this was an ILB thing, which made the participants ILB people lies in whether the training exercizes were in game. Yes, there was the up/puck/ellipse/sew puzzle which signifies that it was in game, but there were the PMs and Halo2MP! I consider the curtain being dropped and the truth being revealed an indicator that the game is over. However, one could also argue that the people working on solving the puzzles were huddled in a corner, away from the Halo fanboys playing H2MP. This would make the original crewmembers who were trying to solve the puzzle the "ILB people" and all the rest "people who came there to play H2MP", and not ILB people. Then again, some people aren't good with puzzles, and maybe they were crewmembers, but just decided not to get in the way of the other crewmembers solving the puzzle... I don't know, I wasn't there...

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I ran over to Penn station at 6:30 and met up with Siege88, Beowulf, INCyr, and a few new recruits. We walked over together, where I met up with AnthraX, MarkHawk, rufo (AgentMunroe) and bagsbee. I briefly caught a glimpse of Meta, and apparently Rose and maybe even XStryker were there, though I didn't see them.

I got to the theatre pretty early, so I ended up sitting in the 4th (3rd, technically, the 1st was for 1v1 players) of the theatre.

When they played the audioclips, I almost wept. It was so beautiful, and I felt so much pity for all the people there that had no idea of the experience we shared, and didn't even know how the clip was relevent to Halo.

We scrambled collectively for pens and bare arms when our passcode played, the equation.

We cheered collectively when we first saw the giant Halo 2 logo.


About midway through the night, I got a call from Buzzkill247 (total surprise because I'd only spoken to him once. Apparently he got the rec from Angelo), asking for the passcode.
After a brief scramble, check, and doublecheck with my crewmates, we passed it on.

A moment later, he calls back saying that the equation was for an ellipse, and passed on to me the other 3 codes for consideration.

And so the night continued. I must say, playing my 10 minutes in a 1v1 slayer match was the best thing I could have possibly asked for. Being a HaloMAC player, I was positive I was going to die on X-Box, but somehow my Vidmaster blood proved true, and I won the match.

Near the end of the night, I get a second call from Buzz, informing me that PM contact HAD been made in SF, and that we had received crucial information as to the ultimate purpose of the codes. He said that there was a decent chance that there may be a PM at each location.
So I went into mission-mode and, pausing long enough to get the rest of the crew excited, proceeded to seek out every staff member I could find and ask if they had information for me regarding the puzzle.

As it turned out, it was the LAST person I approached, at the end of the event, that turned to me with a sly smile and asked "What puzzle?"

And, well, the rest is history.
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Digitally l33t wrote:
And so the night continued. I must say, playing my 10 minutes in a 1v1 slayer match was the best thing I could have possibly asked for. Being a HaloMAC player, I was positive I was going to die on X-Box, but somehow my Vidmaster blood proved true, and I won the match.


Great story. Awesome collaboration on the puzzle. And Vidmaster - respect. Cool
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