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[krystyn]

Well hey, guys, be sure to wave in my general direction when you get to Chi-town ...



(weephun, that shirt is way fun, and the proceeds are definitely no-profit, which is very cool)

[VMVash]

Looks like that is the best way to donate to the red cross.

[zorplex]

W00t! Buy Halo swag AND donate money to the relief effort in one fell swoop! What better way to spend my money!

Thanks for the notice Weephun!

[fugitivesoldier]

[fugitivesoldier]

Dante:

MLG has posted some details on the Last Chance Qualifier:

[krystyn]

Apologies to those I ducked out on tonight - the DSL burped, and I realized in the ensuing silence that I hadn't been having much fun, anyway.

I am a little frustrated at some of the passive-aggressive stuff I'm seeing in some of these posts lately, because I feel like it's partially directed at me. If you'd like to say something to me, please do. Take it backchannel, whatever. At least have the courtesy to let me know that I've specifically done something that irks you. I don't know that I've felt this uncomfortable in a long while.

Because it's not a matter of being exclusive. It's a matter of common courtesy. I never get introduced to anyone, I just get thrown into these massive games where teams are extremely uneven, and everyone's really, really competitive.

It reminds me of the early days when I truly did suck, except back then I had people to back me up and take time to work with me. People at least made an effort to be more polite, and not brag about every single last kill they made.

That was 9 months ago, and I've gotten somewhat better, but I will tell you this: I still want to play Halo for fun and relaxation, and when all I do is see the re-spawn screen because there are players who still refuse to let go of the sniper for one minute, I get frustrated, and down. I try to explain that I am frustrated, or that I'd like to leave and do matchmaking, but I am never heard, because of the constant stream of chatter. I am not going to spend ten minutes audio messaging everyone in the party to say where I am going, you know?

I miss bumper cars, and I miss people listening to each other. I miss people teaching each other, and taking a minute or two to be social and calm.

There are a lot of people who don't come around any more, and I won't speak for some of them as to their reasons, but I do know that several don't have nearly as good of a time as they used to, because the dynamic has changed. So they don't come around. And I miss them. I still play in big groups and have fun, but more and more I come away feeling beaten down and frustrated. Ugh.

This is really the only FPS I've ever played, and do play with any regularity whatsoever. I come to XBL for the community, but each time I come back, I see less of it. A lot of my favorite names drop off my friends list because subscriptions expire, and a whole host of other reasons. I've been trying to explain for months my frustrations with the gameplay lately, but I sorta feel like I never get heard.

I don't really have good stories to come back here with, any more. Just an endless echo in my head of how many head shots so-and-so got, and how 'pwned' those other guys were in team training.

In other words, I miss \/\/onderboy.

[Tiny]

Krystyn, the Dynamic hasn't changed, your just getting bored of the game. Happens all the time, happened with me for Halo one. I do think some things are getting old, but because you were brought to the game for different reasons, different reasons make you dislike it.
Either way, it was bound to happen eventually. You've been seeming to focus on the negatives points alot more lately, and distancing yourselves from us. (By us I mean the other shade of Beekeepers) Whatever, that's your prerogative but there are some people who still care, I know Tsuki's getting her feelings hurt by it, just as you would if we would ditch you.
Spend the five minutes to explain what's going on if you drop out and invite only a few people with you. We'd do it for you. I've already stated what Irked me, and it isn't just your part, it was most of the Evaders.
My request for staff or someone who was on at my time to be staff was ridiculed and laughed at and critisized, where as, with the Beekeepers, it was done before I actually even asked about it.
You guys were supposed to be the laid back, nearly laissez faire clan and the Beekeepers were supposed to be the uber competative ones. That hypocritical condition that was imposed unto me is why I left Evade. I mean lately, it's been the Beekeepers who seem more laid back.
We play custom games, or any types of playlists that are wanted by the majority, regardless of people's levels or skill. There have been times where we have left, to go do different things, such as film or do matchmaking when everyone was doing custom or something, but we always make it known whats going on. THe other night we simply said, hey, we're gonna film a few scenes, you can stay and hang out n help us, or you can go do matchmaking. We didn't ditch people, and we completely communicated what was going on. Seems polite and Laid back to me at least.
Anyways, you gotta realize, how are we supposed to keep track of who you've met and who you haven't? If we play with someone and don't know them, ask who they are, and you'll be introduced shortly thereafter. You can't be mad that we didn't introduce you immediatly, and then not mention it then and now, because that doesn't help the problem. I can't count how many times I've had to ask who someone is and then was told and made the general greetings. It works, and I was never offended by it.
I mean when your trying to grab a flag and dodge a sniper, it's kinda hard to pull up back dated info about who knows who.
Tj-

[thunderclap8]

I admit to getting bored with the game. But I get bored, or perhaps more accurately frustrated, precisely because the dynamic has changed.

I share Krystyn's frustration re: snipering in particular. Some of us (myself particularly included) just aren't as good as others, I admit it. And that's fine. I simply just don't have the time to be the best. So when I have one of my rare moments of game playing I'm doing it to relax. When I spend 90% of the time in a respawn screen and reading "You were sniped by XXX", that isn't fun. I'm quite sure that being sniper XXX is indeed fun. But not so much for the snipee. I just can't compete.

And the silly games that really helped me relax (bumper cars, zombies, etc) seem to have fallen by the wayside. That's probably mainly because most of the people who preferred them have dropped off the radar. (Waters, where are you?) I understand that most of those who remain seem to be more competitive than I'd prefer. Can't really fault anybody for that, its just the way it is.

To sum up, please understand why some of us are frustrated. The dynamic is changing, and probably can't/shouldn't be stopped. But that doesn't mean we have to be happy about it.

[Astald]

[Incitatus]

Fun games like destruction derby, or meteors?
Games we play every night by demand on demand?
You guys have to understand that these games, like any other are fun because we make them fun. Try actually suggesting that we play one of these games, Krystyn, if this is your concern, note that you are usually party leader when everyone groups up. (And we all take turns playing a game of 'toss the party leadership about', so this applies to everyone.) It means you make the match, you choose the game. I know it sounds a bit tyranical, but sieze some power girl!


I'm not wholly competitive (Get me on a street with a pair of road comps and that's a different story).
I'm here for fun too, but part of having fun is ensuring that everyone is having a good time, and that you are not enjoying yourself at another's expense. Because to me, that's just not fun.

But a few people have instead of asking or making recommendations just taken off and selected a few people to follow. That's just rude and it (regardless of intent) has hurt people's feelings.
(Once again, and you all know how much I hate repetition so pay very close attention because I'm only going to type this one more time, I AM NOT REFFERING, DIRRECTING, or IMPLYING THIS TOWARDS ANY ONE PERSON, if you feel otherwise I'm sorry but it's just not intended to be taken that way.)

What would/DO I do?
Say for instance a situation I have been in many times before, I am annoyed that I've been sniped too many times by Rodney. I don't want to play a game with him spawn sniping me, so I say, "Twiztedmatt1007, your sniping is a bit much for me/us tonight, so if you don't mind I'm/we're going to go and play a calm game of Destruction derby." Situation applies for anyone in any situation.
Doesn't hurt anyone's feelings, doesn't start drama, just splits the party and players play their respective games.
Even get in a few games of good 'ol Bumper Cars.

So why can't it be that simple when anyone else is in a game? Why must it be some elaborate drama?

There is no excuse for rudeness, and there is no excuse for getting all worked up over something this ridiculous.

Just grow up, all of you.


And before I forget why it is I came to post here tonight,

Catchtwentytwo-

"<fireb[a]ll> Refugee - (n.) One who flees to a shelter, or place of safety."

The Victims of hurricane Katrina qualify as both Refugees and as Evacuees, as they evacuated from their homes, but they are now claiming refuge elsewhere.

-PWNed-

[twiztedmatt1007]

[krystyn]

I'll say it again: I -have- attempted to let people know where I am going. It is nearly impossible with the level of chatter. It is usually because of the level of chatter that I end up leaving.

Also, I am not bored with the game. I am frustrated with the dynamic. There's a difference.

And Incit, I would like to politely ask that you stop referring to generic incidents without backing it up. If you could point me to some rudeness that I have personally instigated against Tsuki, please, by all means, detail it so that I have some way of attempting to rectify the situation. It would also be awesome if the person who personally felt something would also speak up, because it's really uncomfortable to keep reading stuff like, "Well, someone is still feeling really bad about stuff, and I totally hate that their feelings are hurt because of the really uptight and elite people."

Look, call me a hypocrite if it makes you feel better. But if that's your idea of fun, to insinuate and then to try and smooth it over with platitudes, understand, Incit, that that frustrates me. I can't do anything with that.

I take leadership as much as I can in a party. But as we get to 16 people, and the chatter level goes up, there's not much I can do about 16 different opinions.

Seriously, this is all OK with me, if it's changing. But I'll tell you again, I am -not- bored with the game. I am telling you all how I feel. I'll learn to deal with it. I just really hate coming back to this forum and seeing veiled remarks about the 'politics' surrounding what, for me, is Fun Time.

I've always appreciated your attempts, Twizzler, to change up your playing and to ask directly about the sniper. I've noticed it, even though I dread when other people don't speak up to take it.

There are just a good many of us who aren't about the winning, or the skill level, or the medals, or the omg-did-you-see-how-I-totally-beat-you-down-with-my-cankle. Not to say that a lot of you -are- to any -massive- extreme, but certainly to an extent that I feel it.

I'm just not that good! And I am OK with that! (Usually ) I like playing with all of you to some extent, otherwise I wouldn't continue trying.

[krystyn]

[thunderclap8]

[Tiny]

See, this usually happens when I'm not online, like I said, I'm never online when the rest of you are, and I always here about it from Tsuki or Omalice or whoever was the one that got ditched that night. I hear about it alot. Like once or twice a week, and that's too much. Anyways, it's between you guys, I mentioned it because you asked. I don't want to be a part of the whole she said, he said thing we seem to have going on here. It's only happened to me personally once or twice and it never bothered me, I like playing in much smaller parties. So since this doesn't concern me, I'm taking a step out of the circle.
Tj-