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Phaedra
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Oh, and for those that are interested, from the crazy Chicago thread:

Phaedra wrote:
angelo wrote:
Phaedra wrote:
"Jiralhanae" is also a not-particularly-polite Korean term for a moron.


I wonder if that was intentional. I just went back and double checked my spelling and that is correct. I'm going to look up the other covenant names and see if there are any other 'coincidences'.

Brute = Jiralhanae
Drone = Yanme
Elite = Sangheili
Engineer = Huragok
Grunt = Unggoy = monkey
Hunter = Lekgold
Jackal = Kig - Yar


Hmm. Not sure. Yanme could be "impure" in Sanskrit, from what I remember. Kig-yar, I believe, is "pig" in Breton.

That's all I know.

Well, Sangheili isn't ringing any bells for me, as a word, but you could take it apart and get sang - heil (Hail the blood). But that's a stretch. And I think I'm missing something.

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LLTTLR FRU7 TRBTH TU 7LR0Y HBUBT RLGRLT wrote:
Tu thpn uwn lyls, Pruphlt uf 7lr0y

Dlhlrlst Bruthlr,

P hupl thps fpnds yub wlll. 7y surruw hnd hnglr prl0ldl 7l wpth rlghrd tu thl htru0pty hnd hlrlsy ht Hhlu. Wl shhll hulngl thps distrp0tpun wpth su7l uf thl7, hnd thl 3prhihhnhl wpll shum thl hb7hns whht ubr strlngth luuks lpkl ht 0lusl qbhrtlrs.

Bbt thps 7lsshgl 0un0lrns nlpthlr thl pihnnpng nur thl dps0uulry uf thl Hb7hn hu7lwurld. Rhthlr P qblstpun Bruthlr Rlgrlt's sbpthbplpty fur thps grlht pbrpusl.

P h7 hwhrl uf hps tlnh0pty hnd h7bptpun, bbu P bllplul hps yubth hnd ?0kllss rih0hpng 7hy pruul tu bl grhul rpsks tu thl plr?0tpun uf thes bndlrthkpng. Yub hhul nutld hps rhshnlss pn thl phst, hnd ylt nipthlr uf bs hhs h0tld.

P sbgglst thht wl 0urtpnbl hs plhnnld, bbt wl wubld buth du wlll tu phy 7pnd tu Bruthlr Rlgrlt, hnd pruupdl wpsdu7 hnd gbpdhn0l hs nlldid. Thls 7httlr ps tuu p7purthnt tu bl llft tu pnlxplrpln0ld hhnds. Pplty ps nu sbbstptbtl fur wpsdu7.


...and...

LETTER FROM TRUTH TO MERCY ????? REGRET wrote:
To thine own eyes, Prophet of Mercy

Dearest Brother,

I hope this finds you well. My sorrow and anger precede me with regard to the atrocity and heresy at Halo. We shall avenge this destruction with some of them, and the Jiralhanae will show the humans what our strength looks like at close quarters.

But this message concerns neither the planning nor the discovery of the human homeworld. Rather I question Brother Regret's suitability for this great purpose.

I am aware of his tenacity and ambition, but I believe his youth and [?]ckless reaching may prove to be grave risks to the perfection of this undertaking. You have noted his rashness in the past and yet neither of us has acted.

I suggest that we continue as planned, but we would both do well to pay mind to Brother Regret, and provide wisdom and guidance as needed.


Is that about right so far?

-Tar
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 		Elite: Sangheili - first paragraph, line 6, first word
Brute: Jiralhanae - first paragraph, line 7, second word

Tar - I'm using the scan of your booklet, and yet you have missing words...

Don't correct me when you're wrong. Rolling Eyes

And I have it all done on the previous page.

the ????? in the title is 'About'
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Tar Ecthelion
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Atrophied wrote:
Don't correct me when you're wrong. Rolling Eyes


I did?
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 		Atrophied: I think this paragraph
Quote:
Perhaps I worry you much. You know that I embrace caution, but we cannot have inexperience at this great juncture.

reads

Quote:
Perhaps I worry too much. You know that I embrace caution, but we cannot have inexperience or arrogance at this great juncture.


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LLTTLR FRU7 TRBTH TU 7LR0Y HBUBT RLGRLT wrote:
Thls 7httlr ps tuu p7purthnt tu bl llft tu pnlxplrpln0ld hhnds. Pplty ps nu sbbstptbtl fur wpsdu7.


This letter is too important to be left to inexperienced hands. Piety is no substitute for wisdom.

LETTER FROM TRUTH TO MERCY ????? REGRET wrote:
To thine own eyes, Prophet of Mercy


ABOUT REGRET.
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 		Phae, at this point we're all getting trouted.

Atrophied, my apologies. I was going off Tar's copy/paste, because I'm at work and the more windows I have open the more suspicious my boss gets.

Other than Phy's suggestion, your translation is just about spot-on, from what I can tell. Good'n!
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Phy wrote:
Atrophied: I think this paragraph
Quote:
Perhaps I worry you much. You know that I embrace caution, but we cannot have inexperience at this great juncture.

reads

Quote:
Perhaps I worry too much. You know that I embrace caution, but we cannot have inexperience or arrogance at this great juncture.


As do I (So now I have Rolling Eyes )...

LLTTLR FRU7 TRBTH TU 7LR0Y HBUBT RLGRLT wrote:
Tu thpn uwn lyls, Pruphlt uf 7lr0y

Dlhlrlst Bruthlr,

P hupl thps fpnds yub wlll. 7y surruw hnd hnglr prl0ldl 7l wpth rlghrd tu thl htru0pty hnd hlrlsy ht Hhlu. Wl shhll hulngl thps distrp0tpun wpth su7l uf ubr uwn. Wurk pru0llds hph0l un ubr bhttll plhn. Shnghlplp wpll du whht ps hskld uf thl7, hnd thl 3prhihhnhl wpll shum thl hb7hns whht ubr strlngth luuks lpkl ht 0lusl qbhrtlrs.

Bbt thps 7lsshgl 0un0lrns nlpthlr thl pihnnpng nur thl dps0uulry uf thl Hb7hn hu7lwurld. Rhthlr P qblstpun Bruthlr Rlgrlt's sbpthbplpty fur thps grlht pbrpusl.

P h7 hwhrl uf hps tlnh0pty hnd h7bptpun, bbu P bllplul hps yubth hnd ?0kllss rih0hpng 7hy pruul tu bl grhul rpsks tu thl plr?0tpun uf thes bndlrthkpng. Yub hhul nutld hps rhshnlss pn thl phst, hnd ylt nipthlr uf bs hhs h0tld.

P sbgglst thht wl 0urtpnbl hs plhnnld, bbt wl wubld buth du wlll tu phy 7pnd tu Bruthlr Rlgrlt, hnd pruupdl wpsdu7 hnd gbpdhn0l hs nlldid. Thls 7httlr ps tuu p7purthnt tu bl llft tu pnlxplrpln0ld hhnds. Pplty ps nu sbbstptbtl fur wpsdu7.

Pirhhps P wurry tuu 7b0h. Yub knuw thht P l7brh0l 0hbtpun, bbt wl 0hnnut hnul pnlxplrpln0l ur hrrughn0l ht thps grlht jbn0tbrl.

Bl pdri, bl upgplhnt, hnd nlulr rlst.

By 7y uwn hhnd
Pruphlt uf Trbth


...and...

LETTER FROM TRUTH TO MERCY ABOUT REGRET wrote:
To thine own eyes, Prophet of Mercy

Dearest Brother,

I hope this finds you well. My sorrow and anger precede me with regard to the atrocity and heresy at Halo. We shall avenge this destruction with some of our own. Work proceeds apace on our battle plan. The Elites will do what is asked of them, and the Jiralhanae will show the humans what our strength looks like at close quarters.

But this message concerns neither the planning nor the discovery of the human homeworld. Rather I question Brother Regret's suitability for this great purpose.

I am aware of his tenacity and ambition, but I believe his youth and feckless reaching may prove to be grave risks to the perfection of this undertaking. You have noted his rashness in the past and yet neither of us has acted.

I suggest that we continue as planned, but we would both do well to mind to Brother Regret, and provide wisdom and guidance as needed. This matter is too important to be left to inexperienced hands. Piety is no substitute for wisdom.

Perhaps I worry too much. You know that I embrace caution, but we cannot have inexperience or arrogance at this great juncture.

Be pure, be vigilant and never rest

By my own hand
Prophet of Truth


Thanks for all the help. All of you...
-Tar
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 		A small correction to both Tar's tanscription and translation. (bolded for clarity)

LLTTLR FRU7 TRBTH TU 7LR0Y HBUBT RLGRLT wrote:
Tu thpn uwn lyls, Pruphlt uf 7lr0y

Dlhlrlst Bruthlr,

P hupl thps fpnds yub wlll. 7y surruw hnd hnglr prl0ldl 7l wpth rlghrd tu thl htru0pty hnd hlrlsy ht Hhlu. Wl shhll hulngl thps distrp0tpun wpth su7l uf ubr uwn. Wurk pru0llds hph0l un ubr bhttll plhn. Shnghlplp wpll du whht ps hskld uf thl7, hnd thl 3prhihhnhl wpll shum thl hb7hns whht ubr strlngth luuks lpkl ht 0lusl qbhrtlrs.

Bbt thps 7lsshgl 0un0lrns nlpthlr thl pihnnpng nur thl dps0uulry uf thl Hb7hn hu7lwurld. Rhthlr P qblstpun Bruthlr Rlgrlt's sbpthbplpty fur thps grlht pbrpusl.

P h7 hwhrl uf hps tlnh0pty hnd h7bptpun, bbu P bllplul hps yubth hnd A0kllss rih0hpng 7hy pruul tu bl grhul rpsks tu thl plrA0tpun uf thes bndlrthkpng. Yub hhul nutld hps rhshnlss pn thl phst, hnd ylt nipthlr uf bs hhs h0tld.

P sbgglst thht wl 0urtpnbl hs plhnnld, bbt wl wubld buth du wlll tu phy 7pnd tu Bruthlr Rlgrlt, hnd pruupdl wpsdu7 hnd gbpdhn0l hs nlldid. Thls 7httlr ps tuu p7purthnt tu bl llft tu pnlxplrpln0ld hhnds. Pplty ps nu sbbstptbtl fur wpsdu7.

Plrhhps P wurry tuu 7b0h. Ybu knuw thht P l7brh0l 0hbtpun, bbt we chnnut hhvl pnlxplrpln0l ur hrrughncl ht thps grlht jbn0tbrl.

Bl pbri, be upgplhnt, hnd nlvlr rlst.

By 7y uwn hhnd

Pruphlt uf Trbth


Is translated to:

Letter from Truth to Mercy about Regret wrote:

To thine own eyes Prophet of Mercy.

Dearest Brother,

I hope this finds you well. My sorrow and anger precede me with regard to the atrocity and heresy at Halo. We shall avenge those destroyed with some of our own. Work proceeds apace on our battle plan. The Sangheili (Elites) will do what is asked of them, and the Jiralhanae (Brutes) will show the humans what our strength looks like at close quarters.

But this message concerns neither the planning nor the discovery of the human homeworld. Rather I question Brother Regret's suitability for this great purpose.

I am aware of his tenacity and ambition, but I believe his youth and feckless reaching may prove to be grave risks to the perfection of this undertaking. You have noted his rashness in the past and yet neither of us has acted.

I suggest that we continue as planned, but we would both do well to mind to Brother Regret, and provide wisdom and guidance as needed. This matter is too important to be left to inexperienced hands. Piety is no substitute for wisdom.

Perhaps I worry too much. You know that I embrace caution, but we cannot have inexperience or arrogance at this great juncture.

Be pure, be vigilant and never rest

By my own hand

Prophet of Truth


And you're welcome.
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youth and reckless reaching

I knew this was bothering me.

Look at "perfection", just a little ways further. It contains the same mystery character in the middle, and then the character for "c".

It's
Quote:
youth and feckless reaching


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TridenT wrote:
Phae, at this point we're all getting trouted.


Oops, sorry. Bouncing back and forth between several different threads, and, you know, actual work.

Good solve, everyone.
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 		For those of us that didn't get the limited edition version - are there any other bits of "coversations from the universe" that we might be interested in?
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Roarke wrote:
For those of us that didn't get the limited edition version - are there any other bits of "coversations from the universe" that we might be interested in?


Sure, in fact, I'll use my color scanner tonight and post the whole thing all pretty-like.
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 		From dictionary.com
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feck·less :
adj.

1. Lacking purpose or vitality; feeble or ineffective.
2. Careless and irresponsible.


It fits rather well into the sentence.
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Atrophied wrote:
From dictionary.com
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feck·less :
adj.

1. Lacking purpose or vitality; feeble or ineffective.
2. Careless and irresponsible.


It fits rather well into the sentence.


But reckless is 'careless and irresponsible', too, so really it could be either or.
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