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Phaedra
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Phaedra fail english? Thats unpossible!

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Phaedra, take a vacation to NH for a month. You can stay at my place. We'll smoke some pot and sit around my shop all day discussing anything you want. I'm not the smartest person in the world but I do enjoy good conversations when I have them.
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other than feeling a little underpaid, I am extremely happy with the work I do. I produce a hispanic radio program targeted to women in abused homes... and the fulfillment from doing something you know is helping others live safer, happier lives more than compensates where income is lacking. Smile To compensate, i teach guitar on the side three days a week... I have played for over 25 years, and I love being able to see the "lighbulbs" go on in the minds of enthusiastic young kids. Well, my point is, it is possible to have an enjoyable work experience, but nothing will ever seem "perfect"
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Phaedra wrote:

But seriously, isn't anyone happy with their career? Sometimes I wonder if you have to create your own career to be happy and feel like you're really doing what you love. None of the pre-made ones seem to fit anyone very well! Smile


The happiest people I know work for themselves.
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Phaedra have you ever considered a job in intelligence (NSA, CIA), because your language skill are
exceptional and puzzle solving ability is also high. You also see connetions where other don't. I have a feeling that you are quite like Rani but I could be wrong about all of this.

The very few people that I have met that work for these groups are very interesting and multidimentional people.

The problem with this type of work is that you can't talk about what you are doing because of all the secutiry rules.
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skilletaudio wrote:
I am certain he was being a smartass, Johnny Wink


I guess I didn't get the joke.


I went downtown today,
Passed several of my old axon haunts.
Crisp air blowing the fall leaves across the walk paths.
People passing by, wrapped in their coats and their own little worlds, oblivious.
The phone sat, silent, a remnant of another time.
Deedledeedledee.
!!Shocked !!
Oh, just a cell phone from a passerby.
Off to get my lunch burrito.
Alas, not free, but with real cream.
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johnny_Nitro wrote:
Phaedra wrote:

But seriously, isn't anyone happy with their career? Sometimes I wonder if you have to create your own career to be happy and feel like you're really doing what you love. None of the pre-made ones seem to fit anyone very well! Smile


The happiest people I know work for themselves.


here here! at my last job, my department got downsized over the course of a few weeks (didn't really mind, it was a hostile work environment), the day that myself (web programmer) and my buddy (graphic designer) got canned, we walked out the door together, he turned to me and said "well, i guess we have to start our own business then, let's go get breakfast!"
for a year and a half we we designed websites for local business, the work was far from steady and the pay really wasn't that good for the amount of hours you had to put in, but i was very happy because i could sit at home and work at my leisure, i was "free" in a sense
then the well dried up and i took a job doing IT, we still do a little work on the side, but there isn't much out there... but the feeling of being "trapped" here in this cubicle is stifling, i would love it if we landed a new contract so i could work for myself again (even if it paid less than what i make at my real job)
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Phaedra
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Eclipse wrote:
Phaedra, take a vacation to NH for a month. You can stay at my place. We'll smoke some pot and sit around my shop all day discussing anything you want. I'm not the smartest person in the world but I do enjoy good conversations when I have them.


Lol. Well, I've always wanted to visit NH. Smile Good to know that there's someone there to drop in on.
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Phaedra wrote:
Oops. Embarassed Sorry. I should have prefaced that with, "My experience of the working world has been that it's a nightmarish place, blah blah blah."


Ok, I admit, I came off just a LITTLE heavy handed in my attempt to be humorous and contradictory at the same time. Please accept my apologies and feel free to flagrantly flame me.

Phaedra wrote:
Of course, to each their own -- I knew a lot of people who enjoyed college, but were happy to get it done and get out into the real world. They're still happy to be there, and I respect them for that.


Granted... I am coming from the standpoint of someone who attended Georgetown University for a three semesters of pure, unadulterated HELL. I hated college, and I loathe the American Education System and all its self-perpetuating hippocracies. I found SEVEN YEARS of military service to be preferrable to continued schooling. At least in the military, I was getting paid for someone telling me what to think.

Phaedra wrote:
And for me, the real world has, quite frankly, been a nightmarish experience. The people I work with are lovely, wonderful people, but if I, say, am really excited because I just realized that Wagner and T.S. Eliot were trying to do the same thing with their retellings of the Fisher King story and oh my gosh, now I *get it,* linguistically Eliot's mimicking him, they're going to look at me like I'm nuts. In college there were people I could share it with, who would be just as excited. We'd think together. It was exhilarating.


Ok, now, THAT I can relate to.... Intellectual Elitism GOOD, Collegiate Elitism BAD. (And I said I don't like hippocracy...phaw!) I suppose that part of my problem is that I didn't even find that kind of person in school.

I am recalled to a discussion with coworkers, who were talking about... well... poop... over lunch one day. The topic of very, very large... poops... came up, and I spouted off this banal piece: Turd, over the bowl/A thick, brown, golden gate bridge/It will not be flushed. I then said something like "Yeah baby, thats my five-seven-five." My thrill of victory was greeted with blank stares around the table. "five-seven-five. You know, Haiku." Response? "Was that a POEM?"

So, yes, I can relate. I just don't think I've EVER really found someone with whom (ah ha!) I could seriously talk... Over the years, you just learn to adapt your conversation to your audience, and when sports talk starts, to just walk away.

Phaedra wrote:
ILB, Halo and the xBox, needless to say, are out.

No one's a Buffy fan. Most of them don't even like the Simpsons.


It sucks to be a fountain of obscure pop-culture references that nobody gets, doesn't it?

I tried, REALLY tried, to explain ILB to people, but to no avail. I was one of those in it for the game itself - I don't even own an XBox (Though I'm buying one, now, because of ILB), and have always been a PC Gamer.

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Middle Eastern food? Sean Stewart (okay, a few of the lawyers are Neal Stephenson fans, but none of them had even heard of Sean, an oversight which I am attempting to remedy (and, none of them are interested in *talking* about the books...)? Cats? (Okay, actually got a few hits on that one.)


Let me tell you, if you ever visit DFW, I can show you some Middle Eastern places that are TO DIE FOR. There is also a Greek place that has me particularly addicted (but not addicted TO).

Books... I find lots of people who don't mind talking about books. Some of them don't even mind reading books that I suggest. The problem I run into is the discussion. "DUDE, Did you totally read that part where that one dude cuts off the other dude's head? That rocked" ...Is NOT really what I'm seeking (but not looking FOR)

I'd suggest that perhaps the problem is location, but people are stupid everywhere (go Elitism), so I won't go that route.

Phaedra wrote:
Sometimes I change it back because the correct form, in a casual conversation, sounds too stiff or pretentious, and if I were speaking aloud it would sound funny.


*smile* The preposition thing is just one of my pet peeves. I have a bad tendency to switch my I's and E's inside words (Piece and peice both look equally fine to me for some reason), so I'm not claiming to be Grammar God, but the dangling preposition has always grated in my ears (and eyes).

johnny_Nitro wrote:
You mean a preposition is a terrible thing with which to end a sentence?


I say, That's a joke, son, a joke... I'm pitchin' em, but you ain't catchin' em. (There's an obscure pop-culture reference for you... Pipe full of fun kit #7)

skilletaudio wrote:
I am certain he was being a smartass, Johnny


Yeeeesssssss, Neo. My ass and I thank you for the chuckle Smile
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Ph, I could have written your last rant verbatim five years ago. Five years ago, I WAS you. (Only, you know....male, and with eyes that pretty much stay bluish green most of the time. And big black ears.) And I *still* hate what I do some days, especially living in the midst of Cornfields As Far As They Eye Can See and interacting with folks who don't ever want to listen to my occasional rhapsodies for the oeuvre of Ingmar Bergman.

But, yeh, academia can be its own insidious form of poison as well. And, moving from a hermetically sealed, self-important atmosphere like the Loathsome Midwestern College Town I Trapped Myself In to someplace more....erm.....heartland-y, like Indianapolis, taught me a very valuable lesson; that sometimes, it is WAAAAAY more fun to seek out the company of people who are Smart but Nice, than people who are Brilliant but Aggressive.

As you know from your time spent in the trenches on these here fora, there are plenty of online peeps who will share whatever interest in minutae you might be inclined to indulge in. The internet at large is the last frontier of the social fringe, and it's all the better for it. So much better, then, to appreciate the semi-washed masses around you for what they are, which could be any combination of: (a) fun; (b) whacked; (c) cute; (d) annoying as hell; (e) worrisome; (f) accepting; (g) criminally dangerous.

I *still* tell many youngish (I'm only 32) brilliantines of my acquaintance to stay the hell away from law school, because there are days when I wish I did and when I would rather be, I dunno, making movies in Sudduhn Kahleefohnia or something. But I also kind of like the occasional glancing blows of respect that people toss my way when they realize I occasionally DO know something regarding what I'm blabbering about, so I guess being a lawyer ain't a TOTAL wash. If you can find the will to fail miserably your first few forays out (because that is what WILL happen no matter HOW stupefyingly cerebral you are), by all means go for it.

(Oh, and law students freakin' LOVE Buffy, yo. When I was in school, it was ALL ABOUT getting the hell away from the law library with a group o' buddies and settling in for a nice brain-softening hour of Melrose Place. Very Happy )

And work, REAL work, non-academic work, is FUN!!! At least your learned theses will get read by someone other than a fusty old professioral committee, and used, rather than gettng shelved on the back row of a library filing cabinet somewhere!

Anyhoo. G'luck, and just because you might have hefty tomes to cart around for the next several years, don't forget not to forsake us poor ARGonauts.

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P.S.: if you still feel the overwhelming urge to Write, and scrawling line after tiny rant-filled line in dog-eared seekrit notebooks meant only for the eyes of the homicide detectives after you get caught just doesn't do it for ya anymore, take my advice and get yerself a blog. Blogging ain't JUST for whiny adolescents anymore, y'know! Very Happy

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Ozy_y2k wrote:
P.S.: if you still feel the overwhelming urge to Write, and scrawling line after tiny rant-filled line in dog-eared seekrit notebooks meant only for the eyes of the homicide detectives after you get caught just doesn't do it for ya anymore, take my advice and get yerself a blog. Blogging ain't JUST for whiny adolescents anymore, y'know! Very Happy

Blogger: The Other White Meat.


Here is a question for you: Are there any blogs that allow you to do pictoral blogging? As in, post a string of .jpgs?

I have an odd fascination with 'empty places'. Urban places that people rarely go and almost never see. I think it might soothe my creative urges if I was able to create an Empty Places blog.
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Machiavelli wrote:

johnny_Nitro wrote:
You mean a preposition is a terrible thing with which to end a sentence?


I say, That's a joke, son, a joke... I'm pitchin' em, but you ain't catchin' em. (There's an obscure pop-culture reference for you... Pipe full of fun kit #7)

skilletaudio wrote:
I am certain he was being a smartass, Johnny


Yeeeesssssss, Neo. My ass and I thank you for the chuckle Smile


The quote button is a wonderful thing.
If you're going to flame someone, try to make sure the flame isn't misdirected, or some poor sod is futily searching his post to find non existent hanging prepositons (as opposed to dangling chads)

As for your obscure cultural reference, are you quoting F. Leghorn or are you old enough to be quoting Senator Claghorn?

--john--

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