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[urthstripe]

From IMDB.com

"I have the perfect idea for a film. Underneath my bed mattress, there is a stain that if you squint just right, it kinda looks like an arrow pointing to the bathroom the other side of the hall. In the bathroom there is a can of Gillette shaving cream that if you read the label, it is noted that their office is located in Boston. Go to Boston and you will quickly be reminded by everyone you bump into that the Red Sox won the World Series for the first time in almost a hundred years. They beat the St. Louis Cardinals, so our adventure would take us to the famous Gateway Arch in Missouri. Now if you consider that the Red Sox beat the Cardinals winning four straight games, it would suggest that if you stand at the Arch when the clock strikes four, then the shadow it casts will lead you to a buried treasure. Except, don't expect to find the treasure right away. While digging through underground power lines and water pipes, you will then find a chamber that hasn't been opened for hundreds of years. When you enter the chamber, you will use the Gillette shaving can and a World Series ticket to make a key that opens to another room that has a ladder that leads back to my bedroom. The final chapter will contain all the excitement as I find a five dollar bill under my bed that I obviously have no idea how it ever got there or how long it has lay in its darkened quarters."

[thebruce]

hmm... did someone just see National Treasure?



edit: blah, krystyn's post right before the last one already mentioned National Treasure... man I'm slow...

[Scarr]

[Mazian]

[krystyn]

I sets 'em up, so's someone else can take 'em down.

[water10]

[Phaedra]

[urthstripe]

The movie was very realistic, very well done, and very powerful emotionally.

I was never under the impression, nor was the impression imposed upon me by this film, that "the Jews killed Jesus".

It is the individual churches, and certainly not the faith of Christianity as a whole, that believe "the Jews killed Jesus".

Also, I've never heard or seen anything that showed that Mel Gibson condoned the use of any anti-Semitism as an advertisement. Honestly, I don't really care who the director is as a person and what he did. People don't go around investigating into whether Steven Spielberg is "unhinged".

The only reason this movie got so much coverage was because it was about Jesus. Religion, unfortunately, and even Christianity has become a taboo subject in this country. Many non-Christians see Christianity as a dangerous force, others see it as harmless. All they care is that Christianity leaves them alone. A movie like this brought what they wanted to stay away from into the mainstream. Their reaction is to, ironically enough, make a buzz about it, causing even more interest.

But, the film's subject aside, the film itself was very good. Any snuff film accusations were unfounded. Due to all the word that it was a "snuff film", I actually expected MORE blood then there was.

And accusations on the film's pornographic betrayal of every blow is also unfounded. It's purpose, in which it suceeded, was to allow the viewer to "feel" the pain that Jesus went through. Obviously, any critics who don't really give a darn about Jesus or this movie would think that it was unneccesarily focusing on the suffering.

This movie is definitely not really to be enjoyed. If you don't feel strongly about it's subject, Jesus, YOU WILL NOT LIKE IT. After watching this movie, you just feel so worn out. If you are Christian, you like this feeling, because it shows you the things that Jesus had to go for us.
If you are not, you don't like the feeling because you are now all worn out and disgusted by a movie whose subject you don't really care about. It's quite simple. Any other movie, if you don't care what it's about, YOU WON'T LIKE IT.

Ok, it's 2 in the morning. I'm spent.

[hmrpita]

[thebruce]

hmm... I could do a point by point reply, but I won't I've tortured enough people with enormously long posts on controversial topics, and I don't want to raise another red flag in this thread... so I'll just summarize.
And spoiler it, hopefully emphasizing and reiterating Phaedra's warning:
current-events-related polemic ahead that touches on political and religious issues. Probably not for the faint of heart.

[Clayfoot]

*sigh*
Some day, I'm going to have to watch 'The Passion', just so I can talk about it knowledgeably. The standard retort to criticism of 'The Last Temptation of Christ' was always, "Have you seen it, yet?" I just don't want to pay anyone for the privilege. What about you, Phaedra? Are you going to break down and watch the whole thing?

I guess I could look online. At one point, 'The Passion' was the single-most pirated movie in the history of P2P. I'm pretty sure there's something ironic about that fact, but I don't want to start another argument.

[The Watcher]

[Phaedra]

Going to respond to one section of points now, maybe more later.

thebruce, I think you're missing the point, here:

[Phaedra]

[ThaJinx]