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[PUZZLEs] Pathway Travel Flash Pages
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freaky_janis
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Joined: 27 Dec 2004
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Location: Ridderkerk - The Netherlands

Ophidia in Herba

I've found something by googling about the "Ophidia in herba / Snake in the grass" (which is mentioned in Hilbert Hotel's flash pages)

http://www.texaschapbookpress.com/magellanslog28/snake28.htm

Probably not related, but I shall try to use this code on some of the things we've found.

Greetzz Janis

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:00 am
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tassie
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well...

well... if this is an old game, probably it means something! but then we have to find out what kind of word is hidden in what sentence.

PostPosted: Wed Dec 29, 2004 8:55 am
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schapin
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Can anyone read the name it says in the entry

Quote:
Good battles, even better food! Will tell ....... and everyone else at the forum


Is it Kaplon? Or Kaplah? Or something else? I don't know if it means anything, but if we can find a forum with that name, who knows where it might lead to.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 30, 2004 6:14 am
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mei
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schapin wrote:
Can anyone read the name it says in the entry

Quote:
Good battles, even better food! Will tell ....... and everyone else at the forum


Is it Kaplon? Or Kaplah? Or something else? I don't know if it means anything, but if we can find a forum with that name, who knows where it might lead to.


I thought it read Kaplan. Tried a search and i found something on Mordechai Menahem Kaplan. He has something to do with reconstructionism. "Reconstructionism rejects the tradition of a transcedent deity who made a covenant with his chosen people and does not accept the bible as the inspired word of God."

Don't know if it has anything to do with the game though.

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timmygus
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borges babel builder

i don't know if you have figured this out, but on the babel presentation page, it refers to a novel from Borges about Babel. Apparently the writer has created an algorithm to "calculate" the Library (the universe, in his sense) of Babel...


you can check here
http://www.sims.berkeley.edu/~mikew/borges-babel-builder/index.php

you have to enter the shape of room, the doors in each room, the orthographical symbols... etc to generate the "number of books" of the Library. that would explain the note
Quote:
limitless place


In the hotel guestbook, they seems to evoke it:
Quote:
"so many rooms"


Quote:
"i like room 44! a perfect square"


So my point would be : if we can find all the numbers to calculate the library, we might get a password. Maybe a bit far-fetched, though it would explain the puzzle "how can you find a book in a library that no longer exists".. by building this library.

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tassie
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ref. nr.

if you try inferno cargo again, you get this message:

jon harker, SSLU13LSHJ


You are already in receipt of your travel documentation.

Ref: PT3110-04

can we do anything with this ref nr?

PostPosted: Sun Jan 09, 2005 12:37 pm
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alcofribas
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Quote:
You are already in receipt of your travel documentation.

Ref: PT3110-04

can we do anything with this ref nr?


as far as I'm aware, this doesn't work with anything - think it's just a bit of ambience

PT= pathway travel
3110-04 = 31 October 2004 - Halloween!! lots in-game references to this

... but Halloween may have some importance .. I think the Pagan/Satanic festival dates highlighted in the cache differences may matter (see "The Cache" thread) Smile

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freaky_janis
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I noticed only one complete flash book in the wiki guide – the one of the Gray Lodge. Therefore I've entered all other flash books. Tried to be as complete as possible, but since English is not my first language I think I've made a few mistakes. Also some words I did not recognize at all… Marked them by ***. Feel free to improve my entries! Thought it might be usefull to enter the books, cause if there are going to be updates we can compare a new flashbook with the old one.
http://deaddrop.us/wiki/index.php/S%26S:_Locations

Furthermore good work all, on the Aleph etc! Took me all morning to read the new messages – did not read the forum this weekend since I had too much Stella saturday evening. I truly threw up all sunday…

Janis x

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ryandrew
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well halloween is relevant as it is the date that jon made the trade with S+S. check the cache and such.

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TicTac
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Now that we have the new handwriting sample from the back of the photograph, I am pretty sure that we can confirm that this entry in Hilbert's Hotel guest book is Jon's. Whether or not there are any clues there......

Initially, I found my stay
at Hilbert's extremely
rewarding. By the end of
my time here, I'd found it
even more so. I would like
to say a big thanks to all the
staff for their discretion.
Definitely will recommend
Hilbert's to my friends.
Everything about my stay
here is firmly noted in my
journal. Many thanks again.

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Eddie Nichols
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Hilbert's: the directed approach

And indeed, Jon has recommended Hilbert's; possibly to us (the friends) as the direction to continue our search.

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Slithy
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TicTac wrote:
Now that we have the new handwriting sample from the back of the photograph, I am pretty sure that we can confirm that this entry in Hilbert's Hotel guest book is Jon's. Whether or not there are any clues there......

Initially, I found my stay
at Hilbert's extremely
rewarding. By the end of
my time here, I'd found it
even more so. I would like
to say a big thanks to all the
staff for their discretion.
Definitely will recommend
Hilbert's to my friends.
Everything about my stay
here is firmly noted in my
journal. Many thanks again.



Yes, you are correct, there is most definitely a clue there. Take a close look at the first letter of each sentence.


~Slithy
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OmegaX
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One thing I didn't see anyone mention: in [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hilbert's_paradox_of_the_Grand_Hotel]Wikipedia's Hilbert Hotel entry[/url] , there is an Aleph. Interesting, no?

Here is the passage in its entirety:

"This state of affairs is not really paradoxical but just profoundly counterintuitive. It is difficult to come to grips with infinite 'collections of things', as their properties are quite different from the properties of ordinary 'collections of things'. In an ordinary hotel, the number of odd-numbered rooms is obviously smaller than the total number of rooms. However, in Hilbert's aptly named Grand Hotel the 'number' of odd-numbered rooms is as 'large' as the total 'number' of rooms. In mathematical terms, this would be expressed as follows: the cardinality of the subset containing the odd-numbered rooms is the same as the cardinality of the set of all rooms. In fact, infinite sets are characterized as sets that have proper subsets of the same cardinality. For countable sets this cardinality is called "

At least, it would appear to be an aleph or some variant thereof....
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tassie
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aleph

for the aleph i recommend you read "aleph meets starr". there you can find all about the aleph and about its mathematic impotance.

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OmegaX
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Read it, just noting the odd coincidence. I mean, "Hilbert Hotel", then the aleph actually related to the paradox of that same name (roughly)? Kind of odd, no?
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