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thijsonline · Guest

Also, according to the apples in the kitchen:
Quote from diary:
"24th May

Endless research to do on S&S

Interesting 'About us' info

"Sable & Shuck, formally known as Ophis Incorporated, has
grown year upon year following the successes of our first
tempting deal in the FMCG sector."

Ophis is Greek for snake. And the Book of Star refers to Ophidia.

The first tempting deal of The Snake?

- the fall.
- FMCG = Apple?

Reluctantly I registered my details with them. I have to find out
more.
"

Maybe this has something to do with it?

**Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:29 pm

pronage · Boot Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 56 Location: Netherlands

I looked at that excel file, but I have no clue where to start. Did we miss any number sequence somewhere?

I found this entry at the horoscope page of the Hornchruchstar

You are at a crossroads in life. Whether you invoke a spirit at this crossroads is up to you.

On eof the answers of the corssword puzzle is Crossroad. There are more names and words n the cross word that also appear in the horoscope section. Could this be a clue?

**Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:42 pm

thijsonline · Guest

i think it reffers to the article of ''Haunted' Crossroads in Darkness Riddle'. At this place sable met shuck.

**Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:48 pm

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**Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2004 4:54 pm

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thijsonline · Guest

yeah ur right.
But why didn't he return when he found the book? There are people who returned cuz you can read in the guestbook several times they also went to another place before. So he can return to his home. But he didn't! Confused

**Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2004 5:13 pm

miss_seph

I would assume that's because Shuck may be aware that Jon has more than a 'professional' interest in the company? And perhaps Jon feels more than his soul is at threat?

**Posted:** Tue Dec 14, 2004 7:15 pm

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thijsonline · Guest

I think brigid harker is not the sister of Jon. The money rewarded for finding Jon has been applied by Omni Publications; also a S+S company. So I think the man in black is looking for Jon but he can't find him. So he asks us to find him and just tell him at the website of brigid.

**Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:36 am

mephistopheles · Boot Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 18

Marlowe Digital

**Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:46 am

thijsonline · Guest

and I found something new in the guestbooks:
in the europa, elysian fields guestbook there is an entry:
"I loved it!"
In the grey lodge, Devil's Island guestbook there is an entry:
"U were brilliant!"
Both underlined the U and the I.
Again U and I...

**Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 11:53 am

cryurchin · Veteran Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 76

ok ive been going back to the hornchurch crossword. 21 by 21 = 441 whihc are all numbers we should be familiar with now. im going out on a bit of a limb here, but someone was talking about a book where the fibbonacchi (oh you spell it right!) sequence provided them with clues. well ive been thinking what if we put a fibonacci spiral onto the crossword itself, or use the golden ratio of boxes to generate words. im working on it, but if there's more of us doing it then there might be a better chance. also there's pascal's triangle. there's something there im sure, but i don't know yet. it relates to the golden ratio and produces the fibonacci sequence and also relates to evolution in a fixed environment. its all a bit beyond me at the mo, but i thought id throw it out there.

edit: also does it look to anyone else like there's a golden ratio grid of sorts imposed on the hornchurch weather page?

**Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:18 pm

cryurchin · Veteran Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 76

sorry for the double post. but i looked at the hornchurch crossword clues in reference to the fibonacci sequence:

1 - Harker
2 - Rogue
3 - Hades / Hoof
5 - Sable
8 - Hornchurch
13 - Pact
21 - Serpent
34 -

is it just suggestive imagery that harker is a rogue, hades/hooves = sable, and its all a pact with the serpent? i dunno. i think its just coincidence or a nice little aside. but if u can work on it?

first letters of those answers gives us: hrhshps. rot that and u will find:

ROT-0 hrhshps
ROT-1 isitiqt
ROT-2 jtjujru
ROT-3 kukvksv
ROT-4 lvlwltw
ROT-5 mwmxmux
ROT-6 nxnynvy
ROT-7 oyozowz
ROT-8 pzpapxa
ROT-9 qaqbqyb
ROT-10 rbrcrzc
ROT-11 scsdsad
ROT-12 tdtetbe
ROT-13 ueufucf
ROT-14 vfvgvdg
ROT-15 wgwhweh
ROT-16 xhxixfi
ROT-17 yiyjygj
ROT-18 zjzkzhk
ROT-19 akalail
ROT-20 blbmbjm
ROT-21 cmcnckn
ROT-22 dndodlo
ROT-23 eoepemp
ROT-24 fpfqfnq
ROT-25 gqgrgor

or as i like to call it babble Smile

but maybe there's a clue in there somewhere?

laters

**Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:33 pm

Dontpanic · Boot Joined: 10 Nov 2004 Posts: 10 Location: USA

Jonny "hiding" Harker can't be a rogue as in bad person - he's the good guy! But rogue also means "to be different"/"to be an outsider"
So it would seem we've stumbled on a littlpe plot hint. Maybe.

**Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 12:56 pm

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DesperadoIV · Kilroy Joined: 10 Oct 2004 Posts: 1

Has this been said yet?

**Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:49 pm

Frzndaqiri · Boot Joined: 11 Dec 2004 Posts: 31

The Wiki guide and the search function should help in checking that you're not repeating something. Very Happy

The full pictures are here:

http://www.olaf-veltman.com/
Done by a famous photographer. Check page 6, the last 3 photos.

**Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 5:56 pm

Ssst...! · Greenhorn Joined: 15 Dec 2004 Posts: 3

**Posted:** Wed Dec 15, 2004 6:26 pm