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SilentAvenger
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I'm sorry...

2 + 2 + 1 + 5 + 4 + 5 + 4 + 8 + 4 + 8 + 4 + 8 + 4 + 6 + 5 + 1 + 0 + 0 + 5 + 0 + 3 + 2 + 1 + 5 = 87

not 99.

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da5id
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um, yeah, um Embarassed ....

apparently i got a little excited with those '48' numbers and put in one too many. at least we now know that adding up the numbers doesn't yield much... Rolling Eyes

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StarryNight wrote:
I'm still working on it. I believe that it is a set of 2-digit numbers ranging 00 to 51 (exactly twice the size of the alphabet), but I haven't had a eureka moment. The numbers seem very structured and very unlikely to be the result of randomness.


Hmm, if you take 00 as 'a' and 51 as 'Z' then

spot the www!

Code:

22 15 45 48 48 48 46 51 00 50 32 15
w  o  T  W  W  W  U  Z  a  Y  G  o   


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timair wrote:
Hmm, if you take 00 as 'a' and 51 as 'Z' then

spot the www!

Code:

22 15 45 48 48 48 46 51 00 50 32 15
w  o  T  W  W  W  U  Z  a  Y  G  o   


The Z, Y, and G look promising too.

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Shish
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I think we've collectively tried all the rotations possible - the only way to make the www appear and have other letters make sense is to rotate each number by a different amount; one thinks a one time pad encrypt would just be cruel :P
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This feels like it could work though, we saw similar in the Marketing Week ad.

I'm a bit rubbish at all the code stuff, but for those brainier than me...

Can you use 2210 as a key to it? Or PCPS? Do those help at all with the rotations?
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ever had that feeling, that you're close..

i played around with the letters today as much as i could. i think we are coming closer. perhaps the key is 2210, or other numbers on the card. ni

will try some more funky stuff.

dont forget to rot if you think you have ur final sequence of letters, it does look like a puzzle within a puzzle.

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bored at work, so i checked out the international TLDs (Top-level domains) here: http://www.iana.org/cctld/cctld-whois.htm

i did this for the decryption using the simple double alphabet (ROT 0), since there the letters WWW appear - if they are part of an internet adress, there should be a domain ending in there as well.

so here are all possible international TLDs using all different combinations of the letters woTWWWUZaYGo:

.tw - taiwan
.to - tonga
.tz - tanzania
.tg - togo
.ua - ukraine
.uy - uruguay
.ug - uganda
.zw - zimbabwe
.aw - aruba
.ao - angola
.at - austria
.au - australia
.az - azerbaijan
.ag - antigua and barbuda
.ao - angola
.yt - mayotte
.yu - yugoslavia
.gw - guinea-bissau
.gt - guatemala
.gu - guam
.ga - gabon
.gy - guyana

nothing that strikes out wildly, some countries in europa, some in africa, etc. but maybe someone finds these combinations useful.

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I've tried all of these - international url extensions, writing the alphabet twice (you can get the '48' to become an 'E', which creates a string that be rearranged into "cube" and some gibberish letters). I've even tried using tiny URL after several "decode" attempts. I've also tried many "mod" algorithms as suggested by the unfiction tutorial.

Several leads seem like they are very promising, then end up fadding into a swamp. I'm still working at it, though. Cool
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i mentioned the www thing way back when *sigh* guess I didn't back it up with any solve ideas
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Sygerrik
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There was a sticker from Ataturk airport or something on projectsyzygy.com, right? Maybe, wherever that is, is where the site was registered from. Like, www.____.xx, except replace the Xes with the letters of the country that Ataturk airport is in.
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StarryNight wrote:
I believe that it is a set of 2-digit numbers ranging 00 to 51 (exactly twice the size of the alphabet), but I haven't had a eureka moment. The numbers seem very structured and very unlikely to be the result of randomness.


Been there, done that Wink
The problem with that is that there's both odd and even numbers in there so if you divide all the 2-digit pairs by 2 to bring you into range of the English alphabet then you end up with some numbers that aren't integers. Still, you could always round it or something.....

Rei: yeah, I knew the Kanji used in Japanese were largely borrowed from Chinese but I wasn't sure if every pictogram matched up between the languages (particularly given that China has several native languages such as Mandarin and Cantonese).

Everyone talking about URLs: OK, if those 48s are Ws, then what must that stuff before them be? In fact, why waste time on the www bit in the first place since most URLs work without them? Just playing devil's advocate.

Sygerrik: IIRC, Ataturk was in Turkey. Could be wrong though - use search Smile

Fi: perhaps we are the 'super-cypher-codeulator'. Those tricky Russian dudes could be eating caviar, sipping on vodka and saying 'Da Tovarisch; the code is sure to be broken any day now - our distributed multi-processor organic supercomputer *cough* has already tried the follwing methods......' Very Happy

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2210 symmetry

This may be nothing, but I didn't find it in a search. There is an interesting symmetry in the number 2210 when you write it in binary or octal:

decimal: 2210
binary: 100010 100010
octal: 4242

I don't know that this means anything, however. FYI, octal 42 is a double quote character in ASCII.

I've also tried interpretting the binary as morse code. The only reasonable solution is to interpret 1 as '-' and 0 as '.'. Breaking it up this way:

-. .. - . -. .. - . you get:
N I T E N I T E which goes with the "Perplex City Sleeps" picture. Very Happy
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Re: 2210 symmetry

StarryNight wrote:
The only reasonable solution is to interpret 1 as '-' and 0 as '.'. Breaking it up this way:

-. .. - . -. .. - . you get:
N I T E N I T E which goes with the "Perplex City Sleeps" picture. Very Happy


That's a cool find! If this is the correct solve, I suspect that it culd have been something to hold us over until the game starts.
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Now we just have to solve the maze puzzle and the large number. Someone should try the same thing on the large number.

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