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[thisiswi.net] Trailhead or just puzzles?
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pacifcace
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 		[thisiswi.net] Trailhead or just puzzles?
So at midnight tonight I got a random message on AIM from someone with the screenname "SWildfire56" who had seen that I am "A participant in Alternate Reality games" so they thought I could help with this.

A basic boildown of the conversation is that this woman (through context clues I figured out that much) babysits for a young child who loves to make puzzles for her, but this time she's given her a puzzle that neither she nor her fiancee can solve. It gets a little odd as she goes into the fact that this child cant speak, and despite being very bright, can't write. It was kind of implied that this is her only method of communication with the world.

She then linked me to http://home.comcast.net/~anoitled/, although the original link lacked the tilde before the username so I had to fix it before I could actually see anything, but once I got there all I found is an odd image. The source looks normal, there doesn't seem to be anything hidden which you can click on (I checked by tabbing through the page) and I'm not really sure what the puzzle is meant to show...

The conversation ended by this woman saying That if I find anything out I can contact her and although she isnt always on she tries, then she signed off.

So... what do you think? See anything I haven't?
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 		Looks like a rebus.

Girl plus basketball hoop plus see-saw?

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 		See the little dot under the end of the top arrow just before the basketball net?

Maybe -------- dot net?

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 		So components are:

A flying bug
a happy girl
the sun
a basketball hoop (net?) with ball(?) underneath, pointing at the girl
a seesaw (teeter-totter?) pointing at the girl

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 		be girl sun seesaw.net

fly girl son seesaw.net

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fly girl son seesaw.net


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 		http://seesaw.net/ is a "Visual Agency".....

Definition anyone?

Maybe behappySPLATseesaw.net?

But why the arrows?

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 		2003
Looking in the wayback machine , there is record of the site looking like that on Dec. 20 , 2003. Same exact front page, so this is either not the right site, or someone has been planning this for a mighty long time..
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pacifcace
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 		I kind of doubt http://seesaw.net has anything to do with this, I think we have to solve the puzzle and tell SWildfire. I looked up the whois info on it and it was registered in 2000, its a little weird since it seems to have looked exactly as it does now for almost a year (look it up on http://web.archive.org).

I wonder what a visual agency is... some kind of visual design place?
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 		Re: 2003
surferstick wrote:
Looking in the wayback machine , there is record of the site looking like that on Dec. 20 , 2003. Same exact front page, so this is either not the right site, or someone has been planning this for a mighty long time..


The Internet Archive has been known to do do that before - sometimes for some dates it just takes the most current version as it is. You'll notice that the versions on either side of that date are the same as each other, yet they're different from the page in the middle.

In fact, it did it to me a few days ago with a site I was looking at. I was looking at a page (which I can't remember now) which was supposed to be in 1997 or something but it was exactly the same as it is now and the copyright line said 2004, meaning that in that case it had simply gotten the latest version and I wasn't actually looking at an archive.

The moral of the story is, don't put your full trust in the Archive. It can be a great resource, but it's not perfect.

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 		In fact, in this case the above doesn't apply at all. What's happening in this case is it's a redirect. When you click on the date "Dec 20, 2003" at http://web.archive.org/web/*/www.seesaw.net/ , notice that it just redirects you to the plain old http://seesaw.net/index.html . Meaning that you're no longer on the Archive, you've been redirected *courtesy* of the Archive to the real page, probably because the original page at that time had a redirect which the Archive didn't rewrite the link for.

In short, the way it appeared to look the same as it does now for about a year is a false alarm.

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 		Sorry to barge in, but, surferstick, remember back in the Project Gateway game, Deltina Wildfire. The AIM name is Wildfire and the link with the image says "anoitled". It's deltiona backwards.. probably coincidence ( or nonsense from Old man Splitfoot getting into me.. Twisted Evil), but maybe this guy's at it again.. also, the page is hosted on comcast...

Edit: Sent an email to infoSPLATseesaw.net. Seems OG. They replied they're a brand design company. It seems they're legit..
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 		I think the only way to advance this is to talk to the woman on AIM, but I don't really know what the answer to this would be... I'm not even sure what the question is.

Maybe I'll have to ask her, see what she says...
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 		Hmm
Maybe something to do with "playing" or "playing outside"
just throwing out some ideas.
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 		Okay, so SWildfire56 contacted me over AIM. Seems she's been reading the threads. :) It's a level-based game of the sort where you have to work out the filename of the next level (ending in .htm).

I'm posting the log below, split into several spoiler tags as the log contains clues and an answer for the first level. I apologise for cutting the conversation short but I had to go at the time. :( I'll try and communicate with her again if I can.

(by the way, this is my very first ARG-like contact from anybody, and it was weird, heh. I'm kinda new to the community, and now I understand how important it is to have IM details in this forum, heh.)

Okay, here's the log, split into several sections. Apologies if this isn't the right way to go about this, but I'm kinda new here, as I say.

Introduction and general clues:
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(22:36:24) SWildfire56: So you also have taken up my offer...
(22:37:05) CiaranHm: I am trying.
(22:37:22) SWildfire56: This I am aware of.
(22:37:42) SWildfire56: However, I don't believe my fiancee has set up an outside site just to continue this
bewilderment.
(22:38:13) CiaranHm: I was also a little doubtful. How old is your child?
(22:38:36) SWildfire56: Little Deltiona is 7 and a half.
(22:38:40) SWildfire56: She's a good girl.
(22:39:11) CiaranHm: *nods* I can understand.
(22:39:21) SWildfire56: *Sigh*
(22:39:33) SWildfire56: I just wish she could communicate in some other way.
(22:39:40) SWildfire56: She doesn't deserve this.
(22:40:06) CiaranHm: I have heard that she has given you puzzles before. What were they? Maybe this one is similar.
(22:40:23) SWildfire56: Well, usually she draws of things that she wants.
(22:40:34) SWildfire56: Like, if she wants to eat, she draws a hot dog, or a hamburger.
(22:40:51) SWildfire56: Sometimes, if she wants to speak of something more complex, she uses a rebus.


What the arrows mean:
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(22:41:36) SWildfire56: If she wants to make a relation, she draws arrows between the two things.
(22:41:42) CiaranHm: Yes, I thought this might be a form of rebus.
(22:41:44) SWildfire56: It's just this puzzle... I'm just not sure.
(22:41:59) SWildfire56: The plus makes me thing it is a rebus, but the arrow leads me to believe otherwise.
(22:42:14) SWildfire56: Excuse me, *think
(22:42:17) CiaranHm: Well, that would mean there's a relation between the girl and the net, and also between the girl
and the seesaw.
(22:42:36) SWildfire56: Deltiona + Seesaw...
(22:42:40) SWildfire56: Deltiona + Basketball...


How the puzzles are organised (plus general chatter):
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(22:42:53) SWildfire56: This is the first page of the website....
(22:42:58) SWildfire56: Hmmmm...
(22:43:04) CiaranHm: Which website?
(22:43:16) SWildfire56: Well, my fiancee tells me he put her pictures in levels.
(22:43:23) CiaranHm: Ah.
(22:43:25) SWildfire56: You gain the answer to one, you can go to the next.
(22:43:37) SWildfire56: So, the next file would be named answer.htm.
(22:43:37) CiaranHm: I've come across similar puzzles before.
(22:43:44) SWildfire56: Ah, this is good.
(22:43:49) SWildfire56: I'm glad I asked this group.
(22:44:40) CiaranHm: I only recently joined the group myself. I don't have much experience myself of these things, but
I'm determined to learn.
(22:45:13) SWildfire56: Ah. What has drawn you to this genre of games, if I may inquire?
(22:46:23) CiaranHm: I was reading a paper on it by Jane, one of the PMs of a game called Haunted Apiary.
(22:46:43) SWildfire56: Oh, the Halo 2 promotion?
(22:47:05) CiaranHm: Yes. I missed that one, unfortunately, but I'm making up for it.
(22:47:14) SWildfire56: Heh. My fiancee was very interested.
(22:47:22) SWildfire56: He thought it was an amazing marketing scheme.
(22:48:31) CiaranHm: Well, it wasn't by Bungie (the makers of Halo 2) themselves, actually. It seemed to still be very
fun though.
(22:48:42) SWildfire56: So I hear. So I hear.


Another clue:
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(22:49:00) SWildfire56: Wait a second...
(22:49:05) SWildfire56: AH HA!
(22:49:16) CiaranHm: Have you found something?
(22:49:22) SWildfire56: I have.
(22:49:29) SWildfire56: Master Surferstick gave me the idea.
(22:49:39) SWildfire56: And he was right!


The solution for this level:
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
(22:49:46) SWildfire56: http://home.comcast.net/~anoitled/playwithme.htm
(22:50:10) CiaranHm: Well done!


Hints on the next level:
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(22:50:23) CiaranHm: So here's another level, it seems.
(22:50:27) SWildfire56: Thank you. So it seems.
(22:50:32) SWildfire56: Oh, it's cute!
(22:50:43) SWildfire56: She drew the 4 of us.
(22:51:22) CiaranHm: The person that the arrow below is pointing to - the one with the wings - is that you?
(22:51:37) SWildfire56: He he, yep. Just minus the wings.
(22:52:02) SWildfire56: My name is Seraphina, but most people just call me Sera. But she seems to think I'm an angel.
(22:52:40) CiaranHm: Well, a seraph is defined by Dictionary.com as "A celestial being having three pairs of wings." -
maybe that's where she got the wings from.
(22:52:57) SWildfire56: Ah, most likely.
(22:53:16) CiaranHm: Although you only seem to have one pair in the drawing. I'm not sure if that's significant.
(22:53:33) SWildfire56: No, not sure either.
(22:53:47) SWildfire56: An arrow is pointing to me, however.
(22:54:18) CiaranHm: Yes. And another one underneath in brackets, pointing sideways.
(22:54:43) SWildfire56: Hmm... forward maybe?
(22:55:13) CiaranHm: Possibly, yes.
(22:55:36) SWildfire56: Me to go forward.... hmmmm...
(22:56:14) SWildfire56: Nope... not my name.
(22:57:03) CiaranHm: You're trying as well, then?
(22:57:13) SWildfire56: Yes, of course.
(22:57:48) CiaranHm: Of course. Sorry, my mind was elsewhere.


End of conversation (no clues):
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
(22:58:53) CiaranHm: Unfortunately, I need to go for about 20-30 minutes now. Maybe less. Will you still be there?
(22:59:06) SWildfire56: Hmmm, not sure.
(22:59:18) SWildfire56: Depends on when my fiancee's sister gets back with Deltiona.
(22:59:24) CiaranHm: Okay then.
(23:00:06) CiaranHm: Do you mind if I attach our conversation to a post so that others can see? If you do, I'll
rephrase it in my own words.
(23:00:18) CiaranHm: (in the group forum, I mean)
(23:00:40) SWildfire56: No, I'm fine with that.
(23:01:30) CiaranHm: Thank you. :) Hopefully we'll be able to help you work out Deltiona's puzzles.
(23:02:02) SWildfire56: Oh, thank you very much.
(23:02:08) SWildfire56: I will be able to laugh at my fiancee again.
(23:02:45) CiaranHm: I'll be back in about 15-20 minutes, I think.
(23:03:16) CiaranHm: See you later, hopefully.
(23:03:24) SWildfire56: Yes, hopefully. Take care.
(23:03:27) CiaranHm: And you.
(23:03:30) CiaranHm: Bye!


Again, apologies if this isn't the way you'd normally do things like this but I'm not sure how else it would be done...

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