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[SOLVED] Ardmur Numbers (first and second)
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ReverbAndWhiskey
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 		[SOLVED] Ardmur Numbers (first and second)
Please forgive me if this is trout already.


on http://ardmur.tranquilvalley.us/ I found a string of number directly below the "Ardmur Historical Society" text.

1112:44;44:01:1111:23;33:105:1011:77:22;1010:44:32;101:32:1015;


Does anyone have any idea what it means?


This is my first real ARG. Smile
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 		Look like GPS cooridnates. Any of the Beekeepers here who could confirm this?

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 		Unless they're encoded GPS coords they're not gonna be anywhere on earth. Those numbers are far too large for any LAT/LONG location. Plus note the way they're separated...its not in the usual xx:xx:xx pattern for GPS coords. Its more likely some sort of numerical cipher or something. Anyone try to crack it yet? I'm doing what I can but I'm by no means an expert (or even an amateur).
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 		It is beyond my skill level. I was just happy to have actually found my first hidden riddle/code. Very Happy
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 		Re: a possible puzzle?
ReverbAndWhiskey wrote:

on http://ardmur.tranquilvalley.us/

1112:44;44:01:1111:23;33:105:1011:77:22;1010:44:32;101:32:1015;

Does anyone have any idea what it means?


Welcome to the ARG genre of games Smile

I did some googling and found this page:
http://members.aol.com/AJRoberti/syntint.htm

Which basically shows that the funktuation (funky punctuation) is similar to what they used in in the 15th century. Apparently, syntatical punctuation for English wasn't formally proposed until 1640 -- according to that page.

I think it might also be Enochian but this whole thing with the number systems is odd. One number can mean different things.

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 		for those interested in Enochian, here is a link to a dictionary.

http://www.sacred-texts.com/pag/enoch1.txt
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 		can anyone take the picture of the books and examine it up close? The white book in the lower-right corner of the shelves looks a bit suspicious, but I can't read the title. Blowing it up in Paint just makes it blurry...
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 		That book is Besler's Florilegium, a detailed almanac of flowers. But I can't make out the rest.
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hungrygaijin wrote:
That book is Besler's Florilegium, a detailed almanac of flowers. But I can't make out the rest.



hmm...is it possible that the backround of the police site is flower pictures mixed together? Also, why would a Historical Book Society have a book about flowers?
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 		original image
Sorry gang, I found the original image of the books on the shelf . Nothing has been changed from the stock image so I dont think there are answers to be found in the names of the books. For those interested here is the link.

http://www.holoweb.net/~liam/pictures/oldbooks/pictures-of-old-books/pages/Books02/1712x1368.html

The image is large enough that you can actually read most of the titles.
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 		Yeah, I didn't think it was gonna be anything either...the image was way too hard to read. I guess there could always be something hidden in the file though. Now I just sound paranoid.
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 		Re: a possible puzzle?
ReverbAndWhiskey wrote:
Please forgive me if this is trout already:
1112:44;44:01:1111:23;33:105:1011:77:22;1010:44:32;101:32:1015;


Hmm, I haven't seen this mentioned anywhere either. This is very interesting. I would go with the spec that colons indicate letter changes, while semicolons indicate spaces to form words, thus:

1112 44
44 01 1111 23
33 105 1011 77 22
1010 44 32
101 32 1015

Items to note: we are dealing with varying magnitudes of numbers:
44 44 01 23 33 77 22 44 32 32
vs.
1112 1111 105 1011 1010 101 1015

It's also interesting to point out that the number 44 is repeated three times, and that each size uses only a few digits and often repeats. In fact, the larger numbers almost look like they could be binary for all the ones and zeros -- it's the 2 and the 5 that throw off that idea.

My guess is, we're looking at some kind of lookup puzzle. Some page has about 80 characters, while another has just about a thousand. This code is the index to those characters.

edit: FYI, the admur website, without puncutation, is 892 characters, not including the title or the hidden text.
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 		probably nothing, but just for the sake of completeness:

Taking evens and odds to mean Morse Code:

1112 44
dot dot = I
dash dash = M

44 01 1111 23
dot dash dash dash = J
dash dot dot dot = B

33 105 1011 77 22
dash dash dash dash dot = 9
dot dot dot dot dash = 4

1010 44 32
dot dot dot = S
dash dash dash = O

101 32 1015
dash dot dash = K
dot dash dot = R

So the result would be
IJ9SK or MB4OR. Not that I see anything there, but there ya go.
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 		yeah i tried a simple A=1 B=2 Z=26 A=27
but got nothing

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