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Sygerrik
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Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 11
I'm so terribly sorry for unleashing that e number thread in the first place. I am the ruiner of worlds!
But seriously. Perhaps that "seeking" has some connection with "2210," the number on the postcard and the Kanji character for "seek." Hmmm...
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 7:08 pm
Rei
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Joined: 14 Dec 2004 Posts: 43 Location: spoo-kehhh
that was from a specific dictionary, i think the more general lookups for kanji resulted in another word... which was something similar but opposite.
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 8:16 pm
firefox
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Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 333
i think both the kanji and morse code was clutching at straws.. to many different ways to interpret the information we had. until we get a more specific 'puzzle' (or direction in which to proceed) instead of just a long number, its safe to say we're just bobing up and down in the water waiting for the current to come...
the history of the academy and of the cube will mostly likely be revealed with more 'e-logs' or through another means on the website, and i can't wait to know more of the back-story.
Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:41 pm
Olorin
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Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 613 Location: Gainesville, FL
I have to admit I'm rather puzzled about this theory of Perplex City being in the future.
Where do you guys take the idea from?
Sure, the dates we've seen seem to be different from the dates we are using in our reality. But that seems to me to simply indicate they use a different calendar. I don't know...
..I guess I tend to imagine the P-Universe (tm) just as a parallel universe (anyone read Michael Morcock's serie ?) with a different calendar and, probably, different technology (which allowed them to create the Cube).
That could probably also explain the similarities betweentheir world and ours... after all, even in the multiverse, there are some things that seem to apply in all universes.
Now, I don't think that the fact that they use English is a big deal (how could we play the game if they used a language that we could not recognize at all?). But there are other similaritites... for instance they have academies, like we do in our universe. Girls, apparently, like shoes, like they do in our universe and so on
So, in conclusion, let me gte back to my original question: why did you guys (and gals) thought about the P-Universe being in the future?
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 9:44 pm
StarryNight
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Joined: 16 Dec 2004 Posts: 90 Location: New Hampshire
Olorin wrote:
So, in conclusion, let me gte back to my original question: why did you guys (and gals) thought about the P-Universe being in the future?
The latin was really what struck me. I'll buy that they speak english, that's kind of a requirement for any sci/fi. But why would they also have latin? Also, the fact that they have an academy and email says that they are technologically advanced, so the cube is probably tech based rather than magic.
Of course, it could be a parallel universe or something matrixy, we're all just guessing so far.
firefox wrote:
until we get a more specific 'puzzle' (or direction in which to proceed) instead of just a long number, its safe to say we're just bobing up and down in the water waiting for the current to come...
I still think that the 24 digit number is a solvable puzzle. I'm not sure about 2210, but our current 2 theories seem like stretches to me too.
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:33 pm
thebruce
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[quote="StarryNightI still think that the 24 digit number is a solvable puzzle. I'm not sure about 2210, but our current 2 theories seem like stretches to me too.[/quote]
Likewise, I would be utterly surprised if they just thought 'lets stick a long random digit string onto the postcard to throw them off'...
then again, it's likely... but I'd be surprised if it were...
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Posted: Thu Jan 06, 2005 10:57 pm
Nik_Doof
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Joined: 09 Oct 2004 Posts: 494 Location: Liverpool, UK
i'm starting to suspect the postcard code is there to burn time....nothing more. Its done a bloody good job as well.
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 3:34 am
kelsey_requiem
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Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 106 Location: .hu
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Is it a parallel universe? If so, it's obviously followed a similar path to ours in its history. Perhaps it's not a parallel universe as such, as it has existed in the same way as ours but is simply further ahead say 200 years or so.
Well, in the "first" letter [the mission briefing or something ] they DID say, that ..."an unknown party has taken the [:::::::] cube and consealed it in your world"... but if it's a parallel universe or something, or it's 200 years later, i don't know. my theory is [after watching too much anime] that the academy and the whole stuff exist in the net -- a parallel "universe", getting it's cultural elements from the real world - see the usage of english and latin...
God, i'm glad it's a spec topic.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 5:17 am
Fi
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Joined: 13 Apr 2004 Posts: 444 Location: London
I can't help but think of Perplex City being in a similar vein to Lyra's Oxford.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 6:33 am
Seej
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Joined: 30 Nov 2004 Posts: 614
Well, we know for sure they have a different calendar to us - the date at the bottom of S.Marchant's message is 148 AC. The fact that the residents of Perplex City are clearly technologically advanced implies a futuristic setting, as does the text of Sarah Covington's 'Shoes!' email, esp. the title of the proposed anthro team - "Subject: Civilisation and Late Stage Urbanisation, A Phase 2 Consumer Transition"
However, the alternate universe idea is equally plausible if we assume that their civilisation has developed differently to ours.
Of course, space-time being what it is, the question of whether an alternate universe is in the future or not is meaningless as there's no way to clearly establish what constitutes the future in an alternate universe.
I think that in the absence of clear evidence it's more instructive to keep an open mind. That way you won't discount possible solutions to puzzles just because they don't fit into your preconceived idea of the world in which they take place.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 9:58 am
EclecticMunk
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Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 40 Location: South Africa
Time travel Also, if it is set in the future, then the existence of Sente's letter in our time implies that their civilization is capable of time-travel. In which case, why doesn't Sente take a team of late-stage urban shoe-thowing ninja wenches back in time to prevent the cube being stolen in the first place?
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 10:24 am
firefox
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Joined: 28 Jul 2004 Posts: 333
Re: Time travel
EclecticMunk wrote:
Also, if it is set in the future, then the existence of Sente's letter in our time implies that their civilization is capable of time-travel. In which case, why doesn't Sente take a team of late-stage urban shoe-thowing ninja wenches back in time to prevent the cube being stolen in the first place?
well...
because they need the cube to time travel of course.
but how did we get the card then? elementary, the stolen cube has created a temporary wormhole/rift between our worlds, allowing the transfer of information (data stream ie: internet) and indeed objects (ie: postcard), linking their future with our present if you will.
sente must be brief and somewhat secretive, lest he reveal too much of his future world( earth v1.1?), bringing forth cataclysmic change for our own world whose future will undoubtedly be changed by this excessive interaction. nonetheless we are the only hope for the academy, as the wormhole heralds our doom if the cube is not returned within time.
weeeee..... (its late and i need some sleep, hush)
edit: but i do agree, the ninja-wenches should've been sent in.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:21 pm
EclecticMunk
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Joined: 20 Oct 2004 Posts: 40 Location: South Africa
Or...
Sente lives in a world that is powered by electronic speculation. His civilization seeks worlds that contain curious intelligences on the threshold of self-realisation and ply them with random obscure puzzles. A powerful quantum flux generator monitors our forums and IRC channels and sucks up any stray speculation it may find. The speculation is converted by the generator into electrospectricity - which is then used to power their world.
With this single post, I have just enabled Sente to watch 7 hours worth of their local equivalent of "Neighbours" or "Melrose Place".
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Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 12:54 pm
Munchkin
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Just back to the idea of "why would they have latin?".
To have developed English I feel you would at some point have had to have had latin. There are so many words that come from latin that we use - therefore I think that Perplex City (and it's world) must have English, Latin and all other languages spoken within our world.
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 1:56 pm
Olorin
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Munchkin wrote:
Just back to the idea of "why would they have latin?".
To have developed English I feel you would at some point have had to have had latin. There are so many words that come from latin that we use - therefore I think that Perplex City (and it's world) must have English, Latin and all other languages spoken within our world.
Yeah, even 'Perplex' comes from the latin (I think)
Incidentally, are we sure that in the P-Universe they have an 'e' number?(*)
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(*) ok, this was a half-pun intended
Posted: Fri Jan 07, 2005 2:31 pm
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