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UPDATE: Synthasia email, GWG effects, AGP memory retrieval

**Posted:** Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:40 pm

Gupfee

Current spec is that the note addressed to Diana is Dale's suicide note.

**Posted:** Sat Mar 15, 2003 10:45 pm

ZeusLegion · Boot Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 46

16:33 would be 4:33pm (substract 12) so it doesn't entirely corroborate Dale's story. It only places them at the park at the approximate time of the accident as stated by Bruce. Its unlikely the accident happened EXACTLY at 4:30 as Bruce had stated, he was probably approximating. The odds for it happening exactly at 4:30 on-the-dot are astronomical.

Corroboration would depend on the distance and traveling time to the locale of the accident. If it takes 5 mins to leave the park and hop in the car and get to the location of the accident then Bruce's approximation is correct. If it takes 20 mins to get there by car, then he's way off. And so on.

A timestamp of the emergency personnel's arrival on the scene would be interesting for comparison.

z

**Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2003 1:40 am

Barbarellany · Decorated Joined: 12 Nov 2002 Posts: 245

I would stick to the time slippage. Time approximation is usually no more than 15 mins. either way. You would say 4:30 at most for the time frame starting at 4:15 up till 4:45, after that you would start using 5:00 for the approximation. Also if you look at the news clip it's still light out. NJ in the middle of february is not that bright out at 6:00. I also think the report may have been the 6:00 news. The times don't seem to add up.

**Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:30 am

Myssfitz

WTG Barbarellany! I live in Maryland and never thought of that. I looked up the exact time of sunset for Pemberton, NJ on Feb. 14, 2003. There is more info, but I only copied what I thought we needed. The exact page would not "save" when I copied the URL, so below is the link where I input the info.

http://aa.usno.navy.mil/data/docs/RS_OneDay.html

**Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2003 10:14 am

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Well, Moo

Barbarellany · Decorated Joined: 12 Nov 2002 Posts: 245

Good question, Myssfitz. This is surely a wish gone wrong. There may be other "cracks" as well beyond the ticket and Dale's memory.

If we take Schoedengers Cat theory then both these things happened.

a) they all went to the park, took the pictures, came home, Diana and Meghan left and Dale commited suicide.

b) they all went to the park, took pictures, and got into a horrible accident, possibly caused by the brothers, and Diana and Meghan were killed.

Something went wrong with the crossover. One thing I wonder is if Diana and Meghan were killed in an accident in world A as well sometime around 6. By moving back time, the wish saves Dale from the suicide so he can get money from the death of his wife and child, otherwise they are all dead. The problem with this idea is that Dale can't undo the wish to get his family back, they would be dead in A and B. In both A and B Diana was going to leave him so Dale really needs a C world where Diana never knows about the debt because Dale didn't tell her at the park and what ever was going on in her head about leaving never happened either. Dale wasn't going to kill himself over the money, it was the loss of his family that put him over the edge. Dale though he was losing them because of money and I think the wish got the idea it was all about money. Maybe that's what caused the glitch. Ok, I'm rambling so I'll stop now. Anybody want to shoot this all down?

**Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2003 2:57 pm

ZeusLegion · Boot Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 46

Well, I had a theory here but it didn't pan out as I wrote it down so I'll just have to settle for saying that The Wish is apparently not all-powerful or all-knowing which isn't much but its certainly interesting to know he has limitations in what he can do.

Z

**Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2003 3:27 pm

dmax

The wish

**Posted:** Sun Mar 16, 2003 7:06 pm

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That sounds like something HITLER would say!

MrDoug

By the same token Dale should not have remembered, but he did. If the wish rolled aback time how would he have remembered? The later events would not have occurred therefore he would not have any memory of them.

I think the wish is very powerful, but agree that there are limitations to what can be done to grant the wish. In this case it looks like the wish took the easy way out.

This is totally off topic but he a wish is a wish...

http://www.webforwards.com/stpatricks.htm

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2003 3:53 pm

Pickles · Guest

The wish

**Posted:** Mon Mar 17, 2003 7:06 pm

ZeusLegion · Boot Joined: 31 Dec 2002 Posts: 46

Well, as far as the actual wish goes, Dale made the same mistake every other person and his brother makes in popular fiction when they get a wish: They jibberjabber carelessly and get exactly what they asked for in the way they asked for it.

"OK, OK, I need money. I mean, I wish for money, more money than I can get a chance to spend."

Well, he's not going to spend it in the nuthouse, now is he?

"Then Diana and Meaghan will never have to know I have lied to them and put them in danger like this. I don't want them to know the truth and wish none of this had ever happened."

Well, they're dead so yeah, they'll never know he lied to them.

The Wish just took what Dale said literally and constructed the wish exactly as Dale had asked for it.

He should have just asked for the winning lottery numbers for the following day.

Z

**Posted:** Tue Mar 18, 2003 3:58 pm

lanzz · Boot Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 25

**Posted:** Wed Mar 19, 2003 4:15 am