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[da5id]

i also think it would be good to check the pages more often - it seems we missed the changes be a somewhat long time. shame on us!

(actually, an easy solution could be using offline browsing - the way fimacmo found out about the changes)

[Seej]

If anyone wants an older copy of the entire directory tree (as it was, with absolute, i.e. non-working unless it's in the root of your drive, links that they used to have) that dates to around the start of December (can't remember the exact date right now but check my blog if you're desperate to know) you can still get the one I uploaded at http://www.cjtonline.net/booted/ppc/ppc.zip

Nik_Doof: does Dreamweaver (or any other HTML editor) manage to produce pages that are that streamlined? In my experience they use   and stuff all over the place for spacing (leaving you with a site that doesn't re-size well) and the code at perplexcity.com just doesn't look that messy. Plus, forgetting to close that DIV tag that da5id mentioned seems more like a human error. My point is, I'm still leaning towards a full site update by humans where they just uploaded all *.html files without really worrying if something was already up there, as I suggested in the other thread.

EDIT: Still no change to the error logs (as I mentioned in the other thread).

EDIT 2: The copy of the files available on my website dates back to the 1st or 2nd of December.

[WolverineFan]

[da5id]

if i remember correctly, dreamweaver spits out pretty decent code (that's why i liked it when i was still doing HTML). also, it is possible that somebody created the pages with Dreamweaver and then made changes manually and accidentally erased the closing DIV-tag. not that it really matters, imho.

[thebruce]

as a developer myself, looking at the code is a little bit confusing... my co-worker is a dreamweaver guy, and I code manually, so seeing a page like that with open tags and mixed all-caps and lowercase attributes is just odd... I've seen humans code with mixed caps, but not some all caps and all lowercase... and I don't believe someone using dreamweaver would also be a heavy manual coder, so if they used a wysiwyg editor on the page, it's doubtful a tag would be left open. So I'm guessing more than one person edit the page, and there's a variety of skills. If someone codes by hand, chances are they'd know that all-caps are not required, so why the extra effort to make it all caps? Only 2 ways - 1, for their own coding style, or 2, they're using an older wysiwyg editor... if 1, then the inclusion of manyt ags and attributes not in all caps shows someone else must be editing too, in which case a closing tag might go missing accidentally. if 2, the non-allcaps code must have been edited afterwards, either by a newer editor, or by hand, in which case the tag might go missing accidentally.

generally speaking, the code is, yes, very messy ...

[Alex Smith]

The "images" directory never existed previously, I remember checking.

I think.

[fimacmo]

As we all know, I've declared myself to be non-technical, atleast in the sense of coding. However, I have worked extensively in text production and manipulation i.e. word processing. Just a thought, but one of the tools I used when doing large bids and documents was find and replace. Instead of looking for particular words I would use Caps. It is probably nothing to do with anything but maybe...

[da5id]

i think it is pretty safe to assume the changes were done on december 12th, the date indicated here: http://www.perplexcity.com/tmp/, since there is no other indication anywhere and it fits the timeframes brought forth already.

[Mikeyj]

The changes to the source seem purely cosmetic. The capitalisation draws attention to the coordinates and the other bits and pieces of numerical data...is this a prod in the direction of something that we've not investigated thoroughly?

[Edit] There are 26 coordinates in http://www.perplexcity.com/ source...some sort of code?

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[Fi]

[PillarNumber7]

Has anyone noticed when you look at the page info for www.perplexcity.com in Firefox (right click on the page and click 'view page info') the website expires Friday, January 28, 2005 7:04:15 PM.

IndexB.html - Saturday, January 29, 2005 9:03:39 AM
/2718281828/ - Saturday, January 29, 2005 3:17:04 PM

I don't know if this means anything or not, but I don't think I've ever seen a page that has an expiration date. Any other pages I look at say "not specified" under the expiration date.

[Sasuntsi Davit]

that is pretty weird, never noticed that...also, the image on the main page is set to expire one day later than the page...

i wonder how you set things to expire and if it is just set by the server or something...?

[tanner]

soooo!!! only another 10 days to go

i get same date diffrent time ??

[da5id]

ho hum... i just cleared my browser cache of that page (with the web developer-extension for firefox) and after reload, there was no expiration date in page information - could this expiration date have something to do with caches? does somebody more technical know about this?

[Sasuntsi Davit]

i just read some documentation on the internet about page expiry...
basically, it allows certain pages to go live at certain times...

so you can set a page to show up when it needs to and then dissappear off the face of the earth at another date...

im thinking that we can be 99.9% sure the game will start sometime 29 Jan - 01 Feb...Wooooohooooooo!!!!!