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[Seej]

[TicTac]

Thank you, but I think I have figured out what is going on. It happens when I save the image as a jpg. I have been copy and pasting the image to my paint program (paint shop pro) and it looks fine. If I save the image to a jpg the next time I open it there are strange pixels.

I'm pretty sure it isn't any kind of clue, but I am going to email you a copy anyway, so you can vouch for my sanity. (maybe )

[Daffy889]

[Nik_Doof]

if u need to host eout, use the incognitus file store, linked in my sig

[DM]

I'm showing the last time the page was modified as being "Thursday, October 07, 2004 5:57:33 PM"

[Seej]

Well, I'm willing to go with TicTac's explanation but just in case anyone knows better, here's a link to the image:

http://www.cjtonline.net/arg/ppc/images/TicTacScreenshot.jpg

[fimacmo]

perplexcity.com

[thebruce]

Ok, I'll give an official rundown
Any page you load in the browser will have some kind expiration property associated with it. That's defined both in your own browser settings, and by the headers sent with the page you're viewing. By default, you can check what your browser's cache settings are to determine if the browser even keeps a cache. If a page sends a header that tells the browser what to do with the page in the cache, that overrides the browser setting, to a degree. ie, I can tell the browser never to cache a page, so that I know that every person who visits the page, will for sure, always get the most up to date version. OTOH, I can tell the browser to cache my page for a specific amount of time - the expiration date. From that point, based on each person's browser setting, it will determine what to do with the expiration date. (depending on the browser you're using) You can tell your browser to ignore it and always get the latest version; you can tell it to only get the latest version if the last modified date (sent in the header for the page) has changed, regardless of the expiration date; you can tell it to cache all pages and only reload if the page isn't cached (ie, the page expires, or the server tells the browser to get the latest page).

So, when you get the properties for the page, it should list any relevent piece of information that your own computer has about the file located on your computer. ie, size, created, expiration (if stored), modified (most likely, or ideally, the date the file on the server was last modified, but might be the modified date on your local copy of the file, etc)... the only thing really worth looking at that might hold value would be the modified date, if it's the date the server file was modified. But I think that's browser dependent... ie shows the local file dates, not the server file dates, from my experience at least...

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so, does anyone have a comparison of the previous version and what reportedly was updated today?

[tanner]

so thats the real actual official definitive rundown is it??

[thebruce]

something like that
it's my business... but hey, I've been wrong though I'm 99% sure it's right here... even so... topic at hand

[Olorin]

Hmmm...
...back for a second to the idea of having something telling us when changes are made to any of the pages we are and will be looking at...

...does anyone know if we could leverage Subversion for this?
(if you don't know what Subversion is, that's an open source code repository based on users freely accessing the source rather than checking out and back in)

I'm thinking it would be nice if I could create an svn repository and add to it the remote files (i.e. the web pages we're looking at). Then, I should be able to ask svn if the 'working copy' (i.e. the pages on the web site) are any different than the version in the repository...
...hmm I guess I will do some research in this sense, but I figured maybe someone else reading this already knows.

F.O.R.

[thebruce]

would that save the dates the files were modified on the server, or is it just a content comparison 'has the file changed' check? Granted, we won't really care if someone opens a file and saves it with no changes, so a comparison check may be all we need... would the files have to be manually checked, or is it an automatic lookup?

I recall for ILB someone had a program that ran through all the files that wanted to be checked, and returned the differences (used for the corrupted images)... so I know there's one out there... I just didn't catch what it was called. Anyone else remember?

[Olorin]

[Daffy889]

[Sasuntsi Davit]

SIRENS!!!!!! Wee-ooh-wee-ooh.....lol

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