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zephret
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Joined: 21 Dec 2004 Posts: 72
[solved] The Fourth Key They've updated the LiveJournal Community again... This time with two entries.
The first is a simple ROT-23:
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You are all to be commended! You have indeed unlocked The Third Key and are one step closer towards our common goal.
And contains the Third Key image.
The second post (the newer one) contains a ROT-20:
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The Fourth Key is unlocked by completing an ancient riddle. This visual puzzle is an arcane sigil to our ancestors, and all Acolytes are required to complete it. Send your answer to the usual address.
Behind an LJ-cut (html tag specific to LiveJournal) is an image, which appears to be a visual puzzle.
Looks like we've got work to do... I'll update the wiki.
Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 2:16 pm
Last edited by zephret on Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:39 am; edited 1 time in total
jamesi
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Wait... how did they know that the third key had been solved? Was there a website to go to using the third key song/artist?
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 3:44 pm
jamesi
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Well, the characters are part of what is known as the Theban script, or "witch's alphabet"... in using this conversion chart , the symbols represent the letters (top to bottom, left to right):
C, H, T, E?, L, E?, A, D, O?, A
Hopefully I can work on this some more later...
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Posted: Fri Dec 31, 2004 4:07 pm
Vargr
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Theban My Theban is a little rusty, but I translate it as:
c h
m e
l e
a d
r a
which in terms of letter pairings to spell adramelech is:
5
3
4
1
2
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 1:57 am
Vargr
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[spec/solution] I've not receieved my email back from Jake, so I'm not officailly playing, and I'm hesitant to post to the LJ, but I think I may have this one:
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"The Fourth Key is unlocked by completing an ancient riddle"
The language is Theban
The riddle of the Sphinx, sent by the gods to torment the city of Thebes was: "What goes on four legs in the morning, two legs in the afternoon, and three legs at night?"
The answer is "Man"
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 4:21 am
zephret
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That's good thinking, but if that's the answer, what are we supposed to do with it?
Has anyone been able to look at the source code? It's a .png file, which can easily be converted into a .bmp, but I can't because the PC I'm on right now won't let me.
Because of past experiences, I suspect there might be something there. So far in the game, nearly every .bmp has had a message in the source code.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:25 pm
jamesi
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FYI (and for what it's worth) the image name ROT-13 decodes to alphabetofwaset1jb .
And I don't think you'd be able to glean anything from a converted .bmp file, because the conversion process could be different depending on the program you are using to do the conversion. That being said, I did a view-source: on the image and saw nothing.
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 12:58 pm
Kozu
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Waset=thebes, which is now Luxor. Apparently, this is leading into KMT. (Egypt). Not too odd, though. With all the bible refrence.
http://members.aol.com/egyptmous1/glossary.html
found it here. Not much, really.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 3:51 pm
Vargr
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Alphabet of Waset I believe that the Waset reference was a clue to toward the script for deciphering the letters. I too recognized that they were Theban before ROT-ing the file name, but I don't think that the 12 were counting on anyone knowing this, and so they gave the clue.
I've received mail from both Jake and the 12, so I'm in now.
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Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 3:56 pm
Kozu
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So, the puzzle is basically adramelech, and the pentagram. Hmm. That same pentagram is updated every time we beat a puzzle, and eventually will be finished by the 13th line. (I guess that means that something big will happen after the 12th key) draming a line, with the number. So, maybe all we have to do is send a picture of the next step. But the trouble is, where would the next one go? There must be some giude to drawing a pentagram in 13 steps.
Posted: Sat Jan 01, 2005 4:12 pm
zephret
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Actually, what I'm starting to think is that they want us to edit that picture file.
There are groups of 2 characters, the whole group is devisible by five... One for each "arm" of the pentagram. Make sense? Or am I just speaking barmy?
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:24 am
jamesi
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zephret wrote:
Actually, what I'm starting to think is that they want us to edit that picture file.
There are groups of 2 characters, the whole group is devisible by five... One for each "arm" of the pentagram. Make sense? Or am I just speaking barmy?
This is what I thought at first as well, and have yet to find any more information on what the symbols might represent on a pentagram.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 12:26 pm
zephret
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jamesi wrote:
This is what I thought at first as well, and have yet to find any more information on what the symbols might represent on a pentagram.
Well, maybe it's not as complicated as that. Maybe we really do just have to put the letters in order to make the word "Adramelech".
Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:46 pm
Vargr
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zephret wrote:
Well, maybe it's not as complicated as that. Maybe we really do just have to put the letters in order to make the word "Adramelech".
That may well be true.
I want to be more sure of my next solve before I submit it. I jumped the gun on this one, and received a stinging reply from the Twelve.
I have looked for references to Adramelech in my library, and have so far not found anything relating to the inverted pentagram to him.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:58 pm
jamesi
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zephret wrote:
jamesi wrote:
This is what I thought at first as well, and have yet to find any more information on what the symbols might represent on a pentagram.
Well, maybe it's not as complicated as that. Maybe we really do just have to put the letters in order to make the word "Adramelech".
Oh. My. God. And here I was, all this time, wondering if there was a mistake made, because those letters *almost* anagrammed to "A CHAMELEON"
I feel oh so stupid now.
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Posted: Sun Jan 02, 2005 9:27 pm
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