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I find it hard to see any details of the video because itīs too blurry, but I had a thought: maybe we should reverse the video also, as we did with the sound? I donīt know exactly what difference it would make: it seems like a drunk lad was waving the camera from Jon to a hand, and Iīm not quite sure what watching it backwards would accomplish.

Another thing thatīs bugging me: the chart under the Service tab at infernocargo.com.

We can assume Jon chose Flight and Travel - Aeronautic Options and paid it with soul derivatives (childhood memories) on the 31st of october. So, infernocargo took 54 (hours? minutes?) to deliver it to him. We canīt know for sure īcause we havenīt seen the contract. But do you guys think there is some new info that can be extracted from this? Something with the cache, maybe?

Well, just my five cents. You can keep the change.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 11:48 am
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bartmans
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Hi you all,

first congratsthat you have been able to take this game further.

However, and that's the reason for my post, I'm not sure whether the last messages from Brigid and Jon have indeed taken us any further. I've read on this forum lots of speculations, but it seems that we are still stuck on all the passwords (mezzanine, 3rd cache, S+S contracts, etc.).

It seems that a way has been found to contact Jon and/or Brigid (or somebody else....at least the PMs) but the messages that they send become more and more vague and confusing.

I will try to define some common ground here, that can be used as basis to work further:
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- it seems to be a fact now that the place wher aleph meets starr is Peek Castle at the Isle of Man. This knowledge is at the moment a dead end: we do not know what to do with this knowledge
- some of us have been contacted by Brigid and Jon. Why have they send messages at this moment in the game?
- We still have the messages on the phone. The only thing we distilled from that is the password for the mezzanine door which revealed the back of the photo. We have not yet done anything with the clues (?) on the back of the photo. The text messages on the phone neither did us bring any further.
- maybe it is yet to early to conclude that the video and reverse text of Brigid also leave us clueless, but at the moment there is not yet a concrete lead from these


Sorry to sound critical, but I think we need some time to reflect on these issues before running from hint to hint wthout rethinking.

My guess is that we have to do more with the hints that became available on January 21th. It seems to me that the newest contacts may be mere distractions from the PM to keep us off for some time, to be able to get to the next update in Feb. Just my 2 cnts

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 1:03 pm
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Slowzone
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Hi,

I did'nt get the multimedia message, but I did download the file from the forum and the first thing I thought was: This is a movie from the moment Jon signed his contract with the MIB....
This would also explain the meaning of the sentence spoken by Brigid.

I think what we see in the movie is Jon and the MIB in/near the hangar of the airport just before/after they used their own blood to sign the contract.
I think Jon filmed this with his own mobile phone.

The reason he's grinning could be that he is happy the deal has been made and he can go and search for the book of star in Babel (Hilbert's Hotel)

Or maybe he's grinning because he was able to film this important moment
without the MIB knowing about it

Is there anyone out there that can support (some of) my theory??

Cheers, Slowzone
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ryandrew
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It would make sense slowzone. It explains the blood on the hands, the site of hoofed feet and the voice of Brigid if she is from S+S. OH! Maybe Brigid is a form that the man in black takes?She only wears black in the video on helpmefindjon. Meh, just a thought. And i definitely agree that he used his phone, which explains the poorish quality and short clip.
Has anyone tried sending the clip received off Jon too the other mobile number we have? Just a thought, maybe something will happen.

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cryurchin
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can someone recount the second mobile number and where we got it from? i only know of one, the fone on jon's desk in thehidingroom

laters

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ThomasRStevenson
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Meak wrote:
cryurchin wrote:
man getting texts from meak at 4am was weird Smile but the boy done good :p so only 6 of us got them, so far with no common link, but i think that could be a puzzle in itself...meak u get any other replies from confused peeps this morning? Wink we need to get them posting. wonder if they've all posted here before or if they're playing the game on other forums or *gasp* solo! meak have u got any idea what triggered your message?

laters


yeah sorry about that..... i couldn't sleep, so i tried to solve the puzzle. I ended up finding everyone's phone numbers, and thought i'd let people know.

The 6 people are
Wishi-San
Meak
Flutesalad
Cryurchin
ThomasRStevenson
PeteSmall

All of us are brits, because the phone numbers are all of the 07 type.



I'm not sure about the other people you listed above, but you listed me, and I neither got the message, nor am I a brit.

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ryandrew
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Cryurchin:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
There is the number for the phone on the desk that you figure out by listening to voicemail dialer thing, and the other number is on the back of the photo that you can look at if you type in the first number on the mezzanine door.
The numbers are:
From phone on desk:07941 520789
From back of photo:07861 328892


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ThomasRStevenson
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cryurchin wrote:
http://mediamessaging.o2.co.uk/guest/messagestore/folderMessages.do;jsessionid=a7HC_aVdl1pd?folderId=15934516&folderName=INBOX

ok here it is guys...don't hack my account if you can!


I downloads the video from cryurchin's email server, listed above. I didn't get any message myself. Sorry if I confused anyone by my original message.

When I downloaded it, the file was saved with the name 180963043_7992325.qtl. cryurchin, do you know if this is the name of the file as it was sent to you, or just some name your email server generated for me when I downloaded it? If this is the real file name, maybe there is a clue in the numbers used????

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cryurchin
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ryandrew wrote:
Cryurchin:

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
There is the number for the phone on the desk that you figure out by listening to voicemail dialer thing, and the other number is on the back of the photo that you can look at if you type in the first number on the mezzanine door.
The numbers are:
From phone on desk:07941 520789
From back of photo:07861 328892


ah yes cheers mate Smile stoopid me! and now we find out that the messages were not sent out to who meak thought...curiouser and curiouser...lol *im stuck*

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PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:16 pm
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Slowzone
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Carefully looked at the video again (and again and again... lol)

And now I noticed that maybe the hand isn't Jon's at all!
Jon is wearing a Black outfit and the hand has a blue sleeve with a bracelet of some sort round the polse. Could it be Brigid's hand??

If it is Brigid's hand with blood on it, and she is saying that she "hates the process to its logical conclusion" then maybe in the video she has prepared herself (by cutting in her hand) for signing a contract with the man in black? But for what purpose and why would Jon be there with her?

Could it be that she's referring to the process (a.k.a. the signing of the contract) and the inevitable conclusion that it brings with it, namely the "endless tormenting of the soul once our time in this world ends."

Or could it be that this whole "Help me find Jon" thing is just one big set up by Jon and Brigid? I mean, she is looking to her left in some of the video footage on her site, as if she was checking if someone (Jon? MIB?) approved of what she said and how she said it. And the fact that Jon and Brigid "appear" together in this latest movieclip proves that they are connected one way or another...

OMG... this game is really making me a paranoid person.

Cheers, Slowzone
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I'm proud of you guys, finding all the info around the Forum...
But, however.. I'm afraid we're losing it somewhere, somehow...
Until now, we only get a new clue, by solving a (ingame)piece of the (ingame)puzzle, meaning: all the clues we found are revealed within the w4ebsites of the game. Nonetheless, I must agree, about the other findings, the moviefile of Jon, the info about Peel castle and all, it's great that this is found, but if we take a step back and look closer, we really must try to find some more clues ingame, in the website, new passwords etc.etc.
I even think there are clues taken by us, that are following not the regular 'route' of the game. Maybe they were supposed to be found at a latter stage. I myself still am not completely positive about the Peel castle thing... Since it is still not proved within the game....
But that doesn't mean the clues aren't correct.

I hope that we're not losing track here, but still be focusing on the game itself... (the ingame websites, at least)

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:00 pm
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ryandrew
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Peel Castle has been confirmed because it was accepted on helpmefindjon.com. And i think that now we are near the end of the game, we have to find our own information rather than let it come to us like we have been doing.

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Slowzone
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I don't agree... I just entered "Jon is with you Brigid" and it got accepted also. So it doesn't prove anything that Peel Castle was accepted as the right location...

But I do agree on the fact that the whole Peel Castle thing fits many of the clues we found and something might come out of it.

Cheers, Slowzone
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Slowzone wrote:
I don't agree... I just entered "Jon is with you Brigid" and it got accepted also. So it doesn't prove anything that Peel Castle was accepted as the right location...

But I do agree on the fact that the whole Peel Castle thing fits many of the clues we found and something might come out of it.

Cheers, Slowzone


But did you get the email from Brigid?
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
We got an email from Brigid with the subject "Thank you for your location suggestion" when we entered Peel Castle Isle of Man at HMFJ.


PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 6:26 pm
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Slowzone
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Not Yet, but I don't know how long it took the others to receive one?

Also, it seems to me that all the replies the PM's send were only send to UK residents... am I right?
Could this mean that only UK residents can truly enter the competition for the 10.496,- reward?

Just a thought....

But I suppose U R right about the reply email...

Guess I was just wishing on a star...

Cheers, Slowzone
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