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TicTac
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You get the email immediately after you enter the location. I thought maybe it was only open to residents of the UK at first too, but I had just forgotten my password, so I signed up under a new email address and sumitted the information and got the email. If you want to find out anything more specific, just instant message me.

I have no idea about the reward, I am just here for the task at hand.

Actually I think I would pay to help Jon. Wink

Edited to add. grutte pyr got a text message from Jon and he is from the Netherlands.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:42 pm
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Meak
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I think that the man in black is posing as brigid harker, and is pretending to be his sister, in order to try and find him.
here's my reasoning:

1. Jon went into hiding in case the man in black found him.
2. Jon makes no mention of having a sister, and she isn't in the family photo, or his childhood memories
3. Brigid is looking for Jon, which would make sense if Brigid was the MIB.
4. In her video, on the reward page, she looks down at something when she says "All this could be yours". Maybe she is looking at her feet...HOOVED feet.
5. Brigid's voice is on the video message, reversed. It is well known that the devil speaks in reverse. Also, a hooved foot appears in shot.

By telling Brigid/MIB where Jon was (Peel Castle), we inadvertently finalaised Jon's deal with S+S. We see them about to shake hands. Remember that it says that you will receive a personal visit from the MIB AFTER you have received your luxury goods. Jon had sold his soul, received the book of star, and then gone into hiding. The MIB needed to find Jon, and so posed as Brigid to make us tell him where Jon was.

I know a lot of this has been said before, but I'm just putting all the pieces logically together.

the phrase "take the process to it's logical conclusion" in my opinion means this:
having found Jon, the MIB/brigid is telling Jon that he must end the deal. That is the logical conclusion. That is the inevitable consequence of selling your soul. However, we do not yet know if Jon actually shook hands. If he HAS decoded the book of star, then he should be able to ward off the MIB/Brigid.

I don't think that there's anything we can do until Jon contacts us again.

PostPosted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 7:54 pm
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Yeah, I was thinking along that line to...

Either that, or it is a practical joke from Jon and Brigid...
It wouldn't surprise me if in the end we find out that Jon and Brigid are in fact married.

What if they thought out this whole story together?
Remember that Jon is a Website Designer/Builder
He could easily have build all the so called In-Game sites himself.
And I can't help thinking that Brigid has trouble not to start laughing in her so called "cry for help" video's. At least, after I watched them more than once that was the impression I got.

But I guess we'll just have to be patient and wait to see where this story takes us next.

Cheers, Slowzone
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The name of the movie's file

Are the numbers at the movie's file name correct and original ?

I so can the numbers: 180963043_7992325 which are the movie's file name can be quardinates on a map ?

I have googled for one map like this and couldn't find one - any of you guys can come with such a program / map ?

Cheers,

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Re: The name of the movie's file

Nirke wrote:
Are the numbers at the movie's file name correct and original ?

I so can the numbers: 180963043_7992325 which are the movie's file name can be quardinates on a map ?

I have googled for one map like this and couldn't find one - any of you guys can come with such a program / map ?

Cheers,


I you choose with decimal values, the coordinats leads you to either in the ocean outside Jamaica or in the middle of India close to a city called Mallampali..

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Meak
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the movie is called Video005.3gp on my phone.

PostPosted: Sun Jan 30, 2005 9:55 am
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meak:

did u get the video sent direct to your fone? cos i had it sent to the website that i posted here a few pages back.

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Meak wrote:
I think that the man in black is posing as brigid harker, and is pretending to be his sister, in order to try and find him.
here's my reasoning:

1. Jon went into hiding in case the man in black found him.
2. Jon makes no mention of having a sister, and she isn't in the family photo, or his childhood memories
3. Brigid is looking for Jon, which would make sense if Brigid was the MIB.
4. In her video, on the reward page, she looks down at something when she says "All this could be yours". Maybe she is looking at her feet...HOOVED feet.
5. Brigid's voice is on the video message, reversed. It is well known that the devil speaks in reverse. Also, a hooved foot appears in shot.

By telling Brigid/MIB where Jon was (Peel Castle), we inadvertently finalaised Jon's deal with S+S. We see them about to shake hands. Remember that it says that you will receive a personal visit from the MIB AFTER you have received your luxury goods. Jon had sold his soul, received the book of star, and then gone into hiding. The MIB needed to find Jon, and so posed as Brigid to make us tell him where Jon was.

I know a lot of this has been said before, but I'm just putting all the pieces logically together.

the phrase "take the process to it's logical conclusion" in my opinion means this:
having found Jon, the MIB/brigid is telling Jon that he must end the deal. That is the logical conclusion. That is the inevitable consequence of selling your soul. However, we do not yet know if Jon actually shook hands. If he HAS decoded the book of star, then he should be able to ward off the MIB/Brigid.

I don't think that there's anything we can do until Jon contacts us again.


I think you are absolutely correct. I still think we would have had to tell Brigid (the mib), Jon's location in order to progress in the game.

Anyone that was in the game for the reward could be disappointed having to try and collect from The Man in Black!

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Meak
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cryurchin wrote:
meak:

did u get the video sent direct to your fone? cos i had it sent to the website that i posted here a few pages back.


yes,
i thought you did too, seeing as how I managed to find your phone number and text you.

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I apologize profusely for asking this question, as I totally could have missed the information on the Book of Star. I did a search, but....

As far as I know Jon was working with a copy of the Book of Star and not the original, please correct me if I am wrong.
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On HWAU he states:

"When first published in the fourteenth century, the Book of Star offered an unrivalled insight into the man in black.

Unfortunately, as is so often the case with esoteric texts, copies were made from extremely poor and dubious translations of the original. This has left the contemporary researcher somewhat powerless, especially since the original book has been lost for centuries – and even if found, it's believed to have been written in code

"Despite this, it is my hope that I will one day find the original, and then he will be vanquished. Until then, we must make do with those lesser versions…

Remember, knowledge about him is power over him!
He cannot pursue you if you forbid him from doing so!"
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Could this mean we need to help him find the original? Maybe that is why he needed to know where the aleph meets the star?

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Meak wrote:
cryurchin wrote:
meak:

did u get the video sent direct to your fone? cos i had it sent to the website that i posted here a few pages back.


yes,
i thought you did too, seeing as how I managed to find your phone number and text you.


i got a text telling me to log into my o2 account as i had a video message. i don't, however, have a video fone so i couldn't have played it.

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Meak
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You are correct, until of course the moment when Jon found the ORIGINAL Book of Star. That's what his Inferno Cargo receipt is for, trip to Hilbert's, to find the Book of Star.
Basically;
Jon knew that his copy of the book wasn't good enough to defeat the MIB, so he sold his soul to S+S and in return got a trip to Hilbert's. He then had to escape form Hilbert's and go into hiding to give him time to decode the Book of Star before the MIB came to find him and finish the deal.

That's what all the stuff in his journal is about up until November. By December he had returned with the original book. While reading it, he got stuck on where the aleph meets the star, and asked us to help.

The story picks up again, because we now know that the MIB has found Jon, but we still don't know if Jon has read the Book of Star enough to be able to defaet him.

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Thank you so much for the explanation, I totally missed that. I am rather disappointed because I thought maybe we had some way to help him.

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I think the deal Jon made is twofold:
-For his "natural life" option, he sold his Childhood Memories as Soul Derivative in return for "Service Options", as stated in his receipt. Which means "Love, lust and debauchery" equals "a roll in the hay" (equals "Bridgid" is what I suspect, but cannot prove yet. Would make the story a bit juicier though).
-For his "unnatural life" option, he sold (the rest of...) his Soul in return for Aeronautic Options; a trip to Hilberts in one of those Magus Portal powered jets. Strange that this is not on his receipt. He did get the book and managed to escape.
Jon is indeed in hiding so the contract can not be fulfilled by MIB. Where can one hide from the devil? Either by going where the butterflies are or by being on Sacred ground. Ingame references to church: "Hornchurch" and the "church-key" bottle opener (possibly).
He figured out by the table in the IC site, that he would receive his "Flight and Travel" commodity in "6" time-units, while his "Love, lust and debauchery" option would take "27" time-units to be delivered.

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mm

for S&S it is not important to find Jon to gain his soul: he already sold it, so if he dies, his soul goes to hell. for S&S it doensn't matter how long Jon lives.

what does matter, is that he found the book of star and took it with him. S&S knows that the way to defeat them is in the book of star. therefore they now try to stop him. therefore they want to find him a.s.a.p.

how they know? well, look at his site, hewalksamongus.com. Brigid is on their (S&S) site and she referred us to the internetsite of Jon, so they new (sooner or later) what his plans were.

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