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[LOCKED] [Synagoga] Weird AIM conversation..possible ARG?
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DreamOfTheRood
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She's part of a game, but we don't know what kind of game it is yet.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 11, 2005 12:12 am
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jordanmc
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Further speculation:
I haven't yet seen the movie Minority Report although I intend to rent it this weekend but the more I read about it the more similarities I draw between the pre-cogs and Synagoga. For example take this summary from IMDB:

In the year 2054, a so-called "pre-crime division" is working around Washington, DC. Its purpose is to use the precog(nitive) potential of three genetically altered humans to prevent murders. When the three precogs, who only work together, floating connected in a tank of fluid, have a vision, the names of the victim and the perpetrator as well as video imagery of the crime and the exact time it will happen, are given out to the special cops who then try to prevent the crime from happening.


We already know Synagoga described herself yesterday as inside a tank of water. We know that she sees visions. My speculation is that she is currently undergoing the process of the genetic alterations. What led me to this conclusion was the fact that she is punished for having the incorrect visions. The name Minority Report came from the rare event when 1 of a set of 3 pre-cogs would have a vision that conflicted with the other 2. Because Synagoga talks about how her sister is always right, I get the feeling that somehow Synagoga is being punished for showing an early tendency for producing minority reports as a part of her training. This is also bolstered by the fact that much of her speech is similar to that of a little girl. The concept that she is being experimented on is also similar to the plot of the movie as the 3 pre-cogs operating in Washington DC were essentially a test run for the rest of the country. So maybe what we are seeing is a pre-mature version of the pre-cogs or a replacement or something of that nature. Well thats just my two cents, this could have nothing to do with the world of minority report but it appears to be under similar circumstances.

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Seej
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Just a quick onte on this - in the movie two of the pre-cogs were male and only one was female; the female had no sisters. Therefore, if this is in some way tied to the movie it's not specifically dealing with the characters involved.

IIRC the Pre-Crime division seemed like a national institution with just the three pre-cogs so (assuming this is the situation) either we're dealing with some sort of prototype set-up, a set-up at some time after the movie, or they're in a different country.

Though since Synagoga hasn't mentioned future or past events perhaps we're not dealing with precognition at all. Could be something more like remote viewing, or perhaps (given her ability to interface with the net so seamlessly) she's some sort of software agent used for analysis/spying via the net.

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Seej wrote:
given her ability to interface with the net so seamlessly) she's some sort of software agent used for analysis/spying via the net.


This confilicts with the report that she said she is in water and saw glass. I tend to agree that she may be in some kind of trance-like state or semiconcious floating in water or other liquid. How she interfaces with the internet is still unknown.

I believe she is a living being, held against her will. She is kept in some kind of tank that is maintained at 75 F. She seems young. She likes cats and kittens and is self punishing when she is "bad".

"They" hurt her when she fails to perform as requested. I think they use electic shock because she hears a buzz and her skin shakes and loses control of her body. It herts all over she said.

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Kelis wrote:
Seej wrote:
given her ability to interface with the net so seamlessly) she's some sort of software agent used for analysis/spying via the net.


This confilicts with the report that she said she is in water and saw glass. I tend to agree that she may be in some kind of trance-like state or semiconcious floating in water or other liquid. How she interfaces with the internet is still unknown.

I believe she is a living being, held against her will. She is kept in some kind of tank that is maintained at 75 F. She seems young. She likes cats and kittens and is self punishing when she is "bad".

"They" hurt her when she fails to perform as requested. I think they use electic shock because she hears a buzz and her skin shakes and loses control of her body. It herts all over she said.

Then again she could be speaking in metaphor, like in the story of the Sleeping Princess in ILB. Just trying to keep an open mind.....

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Kelis
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Seej wrote:

Then again she could be speaking in metaphor, like in the story of the Sleeping Princess in ILB. Just trying to keep an open mind.....


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Ok... for those of us that have the extreme misfortune of having missed ILB, especially now that I've discovered one of the Axons was 5 minutes drive from my house, continuing to draw references to ILB could be creating "tunnel vision". In this case, you may be right. However, I think it is counter productive to continually say "just like... in ILB". It might cause some people to limit their thinking. Not to mention, get under the skin of those (like me) who missed the opportunity. Then, come to find out the Lenny thing would have been related but got shut down. Sad

Also, newbies to this hobby might be discouraged thinking that they have to have played ILB to understand any other ARG that comes along. I'm just concerned about drawing LOOSE references to ILB in every other post on these boards. Thats all.

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While the Ilovebees references don't particularly bug me I have alot of trouble believing that Synagoga can communicate in metaphors since she has the speech and mannerisms of a young girl. Use of metaphors generally requires higher cognitive processes. I don't want to narrow our thinking either but I think for now we should take it literally when she says she is in a tank of water.

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When I showed her the picture we have of her and her sister, she said she could "see" two statues. I guess she can see beyond visions, in some way.

Time to her is apparently meaningless. She is on in cycles of sleeping and awakeness.
Oddly, she can *always* remember people she talked to before, though not what about....
So what happens when *I* ask her about what we talked abuot? Guess we'll just have to see...
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We have a picture of her and her sister?

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Kelis
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Should we have a place to post just IM logs with her?

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jordanmc
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Sarah, I think her memory lapse about who she talked to is due to her awekening the other night not an inability to remember. Also I had an opposite experience she didn't remember me (because I talked to her for the first time the night she gained consciousness) but she said she remembered what we talked about.

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Not sure if this has been said

On Immersionunlimited, someone posted a log where she said her name used to be something different. After a quick google, I came upon this.

http://www.pitt.edu/~medart/menuglossary/ECCL.HTM

This fits in perfectly. Synagoga is blind and believes in doing good. Thus the blindfold and tablets of the law.
Ecclesia=Eccleanastiastia
Synagoga claiming to see two statues.

But what does this have to do with anything?
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:gulp:
This is going to be a sad, sad, sad game if we don't pool what we have properly and more orderly. The fact that she's talking to people at Immersion Unlimited (and possibly other random people who she can find screennames for) we're likely to lose a lot of information here. Since the PM seems to be winging it, I guess thats not too bad, but still.
We're facing something that gets online at random intervals and talks for maybe two seconds. Most of the info she gives us seems to be stuff other people fed us.
We need to organize, and we need a proper forum to do so.
Also, while I'm thinking about it, it might be nice to log the times she signs on and off. We need to agree on a standard time. I doubt we'll see a pattern, but it will keep some of us from signing on at midnight in the off chance she's on.

Sarah

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Kelis
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One thing I noticed was this. In my original contact with her, she contacted me. Last night I waited for 10-15 minutes after she signed on for her to contact me. When she didn't I contacted her. So... either she was being swamped by others OR she is waiting for others to contact her once first contact is made.

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The interesting thing I find about it is:
If she really is living anachronistically, there should be some times when she says, say, it was nice talking to you tomorow, thanks for talking about my sisters crown and teaching me what a game is (soo glad I got to do that!)
I dunno, just thinking out loud here

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