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[Xbox] Power Cord Recall
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krystyn wrote:
Haha, I am totally cracking up now. I was just making a joke that I felt shy since everyone was talking about my duke, and it just sounded like such a personal thing.

I always liked that controller just fine, but I do have to say that the firmer sticks on the newer s controller make things so much better for me. I feel like I've been playing with a handicap this whole time.


Hmmm. Maybe THAT's why my accuracy seems to be so much worse than everyone else I know. And I did notice recently that your aim seemed to be much improved.

Maybe I need to pick up a new controller.
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Mike_Was wrote:
krystyn wrote:
Haha, I am totally cracking up now. I was just making a joke that I felt shy since everyone was talking about my duke, and it just sounded like such a personal thing.

I always liked that controller just fine, but I do have to say that the firmer sticks on the newer s controller make things so much better for me. I feel like I've been playing with a handicap this whole time.


Hmmm. Maybe THAT's why my accuracy seems to be so much worse than everyone else I know. And I did notice recently that your aim seemed to be much improved.

Maybe I need to pick up a new controller.


Yeah, I think that Krystyn's new found aim and confidence is tempting me to also question my use of the duke...
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 		Teah got my new cord the other day in the mail.
Thing is HUGE.

It has a built in surge protector box right on the end.
Complete with blinking lights, switches and the works.

Very neat.
As for the controllers... I always preferred the.... oh wait theres a seperate thread for that now.
hehehe...
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 		Am I the only one who didn't get the Lite Brite version?
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 		Hmm, i ordered a free cord, but I think I trust the Monster Power to handle over-voltage. Looks like this and the default a/v cord will just become the traveling gear.
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 		Here's pics of my new cord, since no one else seems to have it:

The NEW cord:




The OLD cord:




The Difference in the plugs (cuff on the new one):


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 		Ooo... And for those of you without the litebrite version here are some pics i took of mine, with my EXTREMLY LOW RES 10 year old Intel PC cam




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 		all the crazy big one does is cut power before you get to see everything start sparking... I think living dangerously sounds more fun

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 		well you see its a box that I rebuilt anyway so it doesn't have a cover on it, and I'd probably need to replace the power supply on it anyway

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fugitivesoldier wrote:
Here's pics of my new cord, since no one else seems to have it:


You will find, upon close inspection, that your cord is exactly the same as your old cord. You see, there is no problem with the power cord. How could there be? It's just wire. The problem is in the Xbox power supply. There's a poor joint in there which is just begging to short out and start a fire. Microsoft could recall all of the faulty xboxes and fix the power supplies, but it's cheaper for them to just send out a new power cord with a honkin' great RCD attached. That means that if your PSU falls over your xbox will still be dead, but the RCD will cut the juice so your carpet won't get burned. The problem isn't fixed, it's just swept under the carpet, so to speak.

You've got a newer Xbox, or more specifically a newer PSU, so you don't have this problem. However it's easier for Microsoft to just send you a plain old power cord than try to explain to everyone the underlying problem that's caused this "power cord problem".
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Nova wrote:
fugitivesoldier wrote:
Here's pics of my new cord, since no one else seems to have it:


You will find, upon close inspection, that your cord is exactly the same as your old cord. You see, there is no problem with the power cord. How could there be? It's just wire. The problem is in the Xbox power supply. There's a poor joint in there which is just begging to short out and start a fire. Microsoft could recall all of the faulty xboxes and fix the power supplies, but it's cheaper for them to just send out a new power cord with a honkin' great RCD attached. That means that if your PSU falls over your xbox will still be dead, but the RCD will cut the juice so your carpet won't get burned. The problem isn't fixed, it's just swept under the carpet, so to speak.

You've got a newer Xbox, or more specifically a newer PSU, so you don't have this problem. However it's easier for Microsoft to just send you a plain old power cord than try to explain to everyone the underlying problem that's caused this "power cord problem".


I know about the PSU problem, and understand why Microsoft does not want to recall 14 million machines in the last months of the product's lifespan (Xbox 2 this fall).

My NEW cord is actually the cord you get with a new Xbox these days, and the pictures show it is slightly different than my old cord.

They figure since my machine is only from mid 2003 that I haven't loosened the PSU as much as those with 2001-2002 machines.

I would not want to lose my data on my Hard Drive in some recall the year the console is retired.
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From the Register:
theregister.co.uk wrote:

14 million games console owners are still at risk of waking up to find their Xbox has become an ex-box. For when Microsoft issued a safety advisory for Xbox customers last month, it failed to address the underlying problem.

After several reports of consoles catching fire, Microsoft urged 14 million console owners to send in their old power leads for a replacement. But hardware experts point out that the power cable was never at root of the problem: it simply made the existing problem worse. The meltdown, and subsequent fire risk was actually caused by wear and tear on the power supply used in early models of the Xbox. The replacement cable featured a trip, which cut down the risk of your house catching fire, but left unfortunate gamers with a fried console. The cord has an interrupter switch that acts like a conventional fuse, tripping power to the unit.

Microsoft's decision to limit its liabilities, rather than address the root of the problem, has led to a particularly bizarre situation. Customers who don't need to participate in the program are being shipped an identical cable to the one they've got.

Microsoft last month advised console owners to unplug the Xbox from the mains, and claimed the risk is only 1 in 10,000.

Ryan, an Xbox modder in Northern California who has disassembled the console, confirms that solder on two prongs holding the Foxlink power supply in place wear out. The problem affects versions 1.0 and 1.1 of the power supply. The design flaw was fixed in subsequent power supplies.

Several other console owners report the same problem, which you can see illustrated here, with advice on some DIY precautionary repairs.

"This was MS's uber-lame attempt at a coverup," writes one Xbox owner.

But is it?

The wording of the FAQ that explains the recall program is at best highly ambiguous.

"The replacement power cords are designed to protect consumers and their Xbox consoles from rare electrical component failures that can pose a fire hazard" [our emphasis]

Which doesn't specifically mention that the cord is to blame. However the rest of the document, with its heavy emphasis on getting a replacement cord, strongly invites the Xbox owner to draw that inference. And only genuine power cords will do, we're told.

"Consumers should not expect that surge protectors or power strips are suitable substitutes for the replacement power cords being supplied by Microsoft," according to the document.

And Microsoft specifically discourages users from returning the unit for a repair that would fix the real problem.

"Q. Can I return my Xbox for a full refund or a new console? A. No. The replacement power cords are designed to protect you and your Xbox consoles from specific component failures and a potential fire hazard. Outside of this program, replacement or repair of your console for any other reason continues to be subject to the terms and conditions of the warranty.

Xbox owners have been voicing these concerns since late February, but to our knowledge, we're the first English language publication report it[*]. We put these questions to Microsoft today.

- Several users report that the v1.0 and v1.1 power supplies, not the cable, is to blame for the issue. What's the cause of the Xbox catching fire in rare instances?

- Why are users 1.2 and up getting cables when there isn't a problem with these later models? Why are they being sent a replacement cable?

We'll let you know as soon as we have a reply. An Online Petition demanding that Microsoft address the root of the problem has gathered over a hundred signatures.

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 		I just wish they would send me my cord already. I signed up like the day of the recall. Neutral
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