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I like the black too.

Black is good! But I don't mind white though. My two favorite colors ...


But black and white aren't technically colours...[/pedanticness] And yes, I think black is the best 'colour' for any controller. Although I do like the transparent green S-Controllers.

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I could see maybe 200-300 consoles being given away, but >9,000 seems a little over the top.

True! But I'm not complaining! Laughing


neither am I, like I said... I'll be buying a -BLAM-load of Pepsi later in the year.
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 		OXM: Xbox Next probably not backwards-compat
In the April 2005 Official Xbox Magazine, "The Mole" discusses Xbox Next rumors:

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RUMOR: Xbox Next is not backwards compatible.

MOLE: The Mole maintains that it shouldn't be. I want to play the next, biggest games on a system that hasn't had to compromise any power. Give me a new Halo for the new system and if I want to play an old game, I'll stretch out, warm up, and lift the old one back into place.


It shouldn't be backwards compatible? That means I'm NEVER going to have a box that loads my Halo 2 maps properly.

"Compromise power"? Why in the world running legacy games be a power compromise?

This is a pretty thin reed of an excuse, and the worst part is the source.

Also, the article says that "Xbox Next" is the most likely name. I'm still wondering that if won't pull a trademark conflict with the old NeXT system.
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 		From Team Xecuter:
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We've spent today doing a little more digging. It seems the Xbox 360 will use AES Encryption (XeCryptAesCbc), executable files are XEX and not XBE (xshell.xex) and after studying the kernel there is everything in place for backwards compatibility.

It can all change of course but interesting all the same.

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 		Possible pic of the xbox2.

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My super-secret console-licking moles have unearthed a few more Xbox 360 gems worthy of posting. OK, actually the mole doesn't lick consoles and really it's just one gem. Apparently, the Xbox 360 will be sold at two price points. For $299 you will get the base system which doesn't have a hard-drive or backwards compatibility. For another $100 you get the system bundled with some sort of optional add-on which will include WebTv.

Taking a page from the PSP-launch playbook, I've been told that about 80 percent of the systems initially produced will be bundled with the add-on. So unless you feel like waiting, you'll be plunking down nearly $400 for your Xbox 360.


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As this year's Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) draws closer, more and more details regarding Microsoft's Xbox successor come to light.

It seems that Microsoft is making a serious push for the "HD Era" that J Allard boasted of at this year's Game Developers Conference. Several of our sources have told us that Microsoft has outlined very strict technical requirements when showcasing Xbox 360 titles at this year's E3.

In order to fully demonstrate the visual prowess of the new console, Xbox 360 games will not be displayed on regular TVs, which means no SDTV or EDTV sets (although the console can utilize such technology), and it is mandatory that the displays used in the E3 demonstrations are HDTV-ready and not just HDTV compatible.


You should know that many of the flat panel screens that are sold as HD capable are only "HDTV Compatible", which means they can display HDTV signals but they resize the image to the panel's native resolution, which sometimes is lower than the minimum HDTV spec, 720p. Full HDTV Ready displays are those TVs that have a built-in HDTV tuner (ex: ATSC tuners for over-the-air HD reception, CableCARD™ slots for cable HDTV), DVI and HDMI inputs, and a panel with a 1920x1080 native resolution, which allows the TV to display any HDTV signal without having to compress the image.

Several sources have informed us that Microsoft is demanding that companies display Xbox 360 games at E3 on equipment with a minimum resolution of 720 physical lines. We have yet to learn if Microsoft is requiring any type of specific audio capabilities during demos, such as a Dolby Digital 5.1 system.

It looks like as far as Microsoft is concerned, the "HD Era" truly has begun.

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water10 wrote:
Possible pic of the xbox2.

Looks fugly!! Bang Head


I counter with that can't be the finished hardware, because microsoft is definitely not stupid enough to unleash that ugly hunk of junk on the world Wink. Yuck.
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 		hm, gamesradar.msn.co.uk?

intesting, normally M$ is verrrrry controlled wiith its press releases... this seems like a little bit of calculated astroturf to pique our collective interest
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 		Next-Gen XBox Name Verified

From gamesradar.msn.co.uk
here

gamesradar wrote:
Looks like it will be called Xbox 360 after all - and it's going to be in fetching platinum white


Xbox 360 will be the name of Microsoft's next console and will look nothing like its current-gen predecessor, according to reports currently winging their way around the web.

The machine will apparently be concave, platinum white in colour (which matches the colour of the supposed Xbox 2 controllers that we saw recently) and will feature a simple round logo. It's also being reported that, like PlayStation 2, the console will be able to stand vertically as well as sit horizontally.

The Xbox 360 name has been rumoured since the start of the year and, while there have been a number of hints since then to suggest that it would be the official name for Xbox 2, this is the closest we've come thus far to it being confirmed. It's also been suggested that 360 will feature at the end of many game names.

As for the console's price, analysts at Goldman Sachs reckon on Xbox 360 debuting at between $249 and $299 (which will no doubt translate to £249 to £299 in the UK). They're also expecting three million of the next-gen machines to be sold by the end of the year.

Xbox 360 will be unveiled for the first time during an MTV special which will be broadcast in the US on 12 May and in the UK on 13 May. The console is expected to go on sale in November.



And if you're worried about you old box getting a lack of use:

gamesradar wrote:
Microsoft pledges continued support for current-gen Xbox beyond its successor's launch.


Microsoft has announced production of games for the current generation of Xbox hardware will continue until 2007, despite the imminent release of the company's new hardware (expected in both Europe and the US before the year's end).

In a press release confirming developers for Xbox 2, Microsoft stated it is "fully committed to the current generation and gamers can expect an amazing pipeline of titles into 2007".

It is not yet known whether Xbox 2 will be backwards compatible but, given the console's approaching launch, the current shortage of Xbox hardware and the fact that Microsoft will be releasing games into 2007, it's looking likely.

There's also Xbox Live to consider. Halo 2 is still massively popular and, considering a release of its next-gen sequel won't happen until well after the hardware launches, many gamers may want to play Halo 2 on Xbox 2 over the improved Live service while they wait.

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 		Almost a rehash of what was previously reported on kotaku.com...

From GameIndustry.biz:

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Two different Xbox 360 bundles to hit retail in time for Christmas

Microsoft's is still planning to ship two different versions of its Xbox 360 console at launch, according to sources close to the company - while reports suggest that the high-end version may feature the firm's WebTV system.

It's long been thought that Microsoft plans to ship two different Xbox 360 bundles, one with a hard drive and one without, and give users the option of upgrading the low-end system with a hard drive accessory.

Sources close to the firm have confirmed this week that there's much talk of two distinct price points, which seems to indicate that this is still the plan for launch - while a report on well-connected gaming blog Kotaku gives an indication of how the two different models will be differentiated.

The site reports that the basic edition of Xbox 360 - the version without the hard drive - will not have backwards compatibility, while the "premium" version with the hard drive will ship with Microsoft's WebTV functionality built-in.

WebTV is Microsoft's effort at bringing internet communication and media functionality to the living room, and includes basic functionality such as web, e-mail and IM access along with the ability to stream music and video channels from the 'net or from local PCs.

Integrating the system with Xbox 360 would be a logical move, and a major land-grab for Microsoft in this space - which is tipped to become more important in the coming years as increasing amounts of content are broadcast over the Internet as opposed to over traditional TV networks.

A major question mark over the possibility of a the two-tier Xbox launch, however, lies with the question of customised content - one of J Allard's most vaunted goals for the new system - and how that would tie in with a low-end Xbox 360 without a mass storage device.

One part of the answer to that question is the inclusion of a high-capacity solid state memory device with the system, which wouldn't be large enough to store music or movies in any significant volume - or to act as a cache for Xbox games, as the existing Xbox' hard drive does - but would be able to act as a cache customised game assets.

Indeed, last year Israeli flash memory specialist M-Systems confirmed that it is working on a memory solution for Xbox 2, with CEO Dov Moran stating that "when users want to save their e-mail messages, copy music, or anything like that, the only storage they'll have is what we give them."

Another part of the answer to that question may come from Kotaku's sources, who indicated to the site that around 80 per cent of the systems produced for launch would be the "premium" version - suggesting that the lower-end model is, more than anything else, a concession to launching a competitively priced "games only" system.

Sony is also widely expected to launch multiple versions of the PlayStation 3 console, which is due to arrive in 2006, with both "home media server" and stripped down "basic console" versions believed to be on the cards.

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From ferrago.com:
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With a number of Japan's most influential and acclaimed developers already enlisted for the Xbox 360 (the name the Xbox 2 seems to be going by these days), and major publishers increasingly voicing their support for the forthcoming system, today's news will come as further music to Redmond's ears. Sega and From Software have confirmed that they are creating multiple titles for the brand new format, which should further assist Microsoft's efforts to ensure their new opus doesn't fall flat in Japan like their current hardware has.

Although multiple titles are being created, details are scant on the exact nature or status of these projects, with From Software's chief only confirming that a mech title would be part of the line-up, hardly a surprise given that the genre is something of a From speciality. Sega are also creating stuff, but we could have guessed this, and what will ultimately be key is the amount of exclusive titles Microsoft can squeeze out of third-parties, especially given the appalling performance of the original Xbox in this key territory. More soon, naturally.


From Team Xbox and Macned:

TeamXbox and Macned wrote:

For Mac fans it's a funny thing to see Microsoft using Apple hardware and that is why Macned, a Netherlands-based site devoted to Apple and the Mac world, has grabbed the very first pictures of a Xenon Development Kit.

We can't understand a single sentence of Frisian, so the only things we were able to comprehend from the story is that the XDK is using the Power Mac dual 2.0GHz configuration with 512 MB of system memory and an ATI X800 graphics card.

We were able to confirm with our own sources that this is indeed the current XDK game developers are using to develop Xbox 360 games, which uses the Power Mac G5 chassis forged of anodized aluminum.



From Hellogamer:
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An MTV ad for the unveiling of the Xbox 360 has just appeared online, watch it here. Notice the newly-revised Xbox logo…





AND last but not least...
From Team Xbox:

Team Xbox wrote:
Following our previous story of the first pictures of the Xenon Development Kit, now comes another shocking image to keep us awake until May 12th. Oh you damn Gamem8ker!

The latest challenge has revealed a new photo and this time it could be the real deal. The big question is, what exactly are we looking at?

The picture, which is taken from an odd angle, still brings up many questions. This could be a removable hard drive and the button on the top could be the cover for the dock in which a removable HDD would plug into. Perhaps the silver part is a handle that can be lifted out for easy carrying. There have been rumors that the Xbox 360 can stand up vertically, so this could be a picture of the console when placed vertically.

ast year, when we ran our first big editorial on the Xbox successor, we predicted the next Xbox could end up sporting a grey, metallic look, like the Satin Silver PlayStation 2. We went even further, hoping that the next Xbox could mimic this design of Apple's 1U rack-mount Xserve which also has an anodized aluminum case.

If the picture above is a photo of the exterior of the Xbox 360, then the following picture, seen a few days ago, might showcase the innards of the new console:

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Curious choice. Does anyone still watch MTV anymore? I stopped watching long before they stopped airing music videos.


[Sarcasm]MTV used to play music videos???[/Sarcasm]
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