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Sasuntsi Davit
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Djrazz wrote:
and who says it's going to end with the gaurdian
video 2.0

well... the last paper mentioned in the video is the guardian...
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thebruce wrote:
nope, gotta correct you Razz

this is a very very common misconception... 'dpi' is really only useful when working with print, physical copies. This '72dpi' figure that really doesn't exist, is an average, for lack of a better term, approximate monitor resolution... here's the thing - monitors can be any size these days, and the resolutions on a monitor can be any size. Scanning at 72dpi won't guarantee the scan you see on your screen with be the same physical size on every monitor - 72dpi could be 1 inch for someone, or 1cm for someone else...

72dpi is a recommended scanning resolution in order to give decent enough detail in the final image to be readable... has nothing to do with final viewing size. typically, you should be able to scan most text sources at 72dpi and be able to read the image. Doubling to 144dpi just doubles the detail in the image and won't make the text any more readable, if it's already readable.

I generally scan everything at least 100dpi, at the very least, and resize afterwards to whatever is necessary or required.


They don't mean the image should be 72 dpi (unfortunately, some of them do). Video monitor specifications have no associated dpi number, and screens will simply show higher resolution scans as larger images.

It is very common to hear the advice : "Monitors can only show 72 dpi so scan all your web images at 72 dpi".

For sure don't believe that. It is the world's worst imaging advice. You only have to test it once to know it's wrong. On any one monitor, we can easily see that there is obviously a tremendous difference in viewing the same photo scanned at 72 dpi and at say 200 dpi. The 200 dpi image is much larger on the screen, about 3 times larger. It contains correspondingly greater detail. And our so-called 72 dpi monitors will certainly show all of that detail, because the screen simply presents every image pixel, one by one. We are obviously NOT limited to 72 dpi, and 72 dpi is not a valid concept. The 200 dpi image is simply larger on the screen, and this was probably our goal, our design for the image.

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Seej
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SasunD wrote:
Djrazz wrote:
and who says it's going to end with the gaurdian
video 2.0

well... the last paper mentioned in the video is the guardian...

I think he meant that there's nothing to stop them releasing a new video....

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 		i think we've been doing very little, if any, solving so far

so these "spoon fed clues (the ads)" would, i would imagine, be the last -- then its time to start solving Smile

let's face it, we have so far failed with the postcard number and maze
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 		Maze?
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maxim wrote:
Maze?

Hand drawn around the PCPS postmark/stamp/thingy

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 		Ah right, found it. Never even noticed that much before. Does it/is it likely to have any significance, do you think?
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 		it might be the short of the press release, and the rest is still to come. what about the sente autoresponse? that might change in time, too!
somehow i don't beleive we'll get new videos, anyway. like there were specs about getting more, different postcards [see "postcard one from five" or what the... ], but there are none so far... anyway, this game has much one-off happenings, and i think this is one of them.
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tanner wrote:
i think we've been doing very little, if any, solving so far

so these "spoon fed clues (the ads)" would, i would imagine, be the last -- then its time to start solving Smile

let's face it, we have so far failed with the postcard number and maze


i have to agree with this... a "game" that simply provided videos with clues pointing to newspapers would get old pretty quickly...

this whole newspaper thing really smacks of global recruitment and i tend to believe that the last ad will kick off the rest of the game... any clues that have not been solved to date, like the maze or the number, might become easier to solve once the brunt of the game begins...
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zeldafan8626
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 		Hey, i just realized that the LA times date was yesterday

And the classifieds from then are gone, so I just e-mailed them asking for them to search for "Cube, lost, perplex, academy, sente"

and if anyone can get the paper that would be even better
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zeldafan8626 wrote:
Hey, i just realized that the LA times date was yesterday

And the classifieds from then are gone, so I just e-mailed them asking for them to search for "Cube, lost, perplex, academy, sente"

and if anyone can get the paper that would be even better

Please read the thread or simply look at the first post in this very topic for a transcription and link to a scan of each advert available.
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zeldafan8626
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 		Yeh, sorry I just realized that

I must have missed that post somehow =/ oh well, thanks anyway
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Centipede wrote:
It is very common to hear the advice : "Monitors can only show 72 dpi so scan all your web images at 72 dpi".

For sure don't believe that. It is the world's worst imaging advice. You only have to test it once to know it's wrong. On any one monitor, we can easily see that there is obviously a tremendous difference in viewing the same photo scanned at 72 dpi and at say 200 dpi. The 200 dpi image is much larger on the screen, about 3 times larger. It contains correspondingly greater detail. And our so-called 72 dpi monitors will certainly show all of that detail, because the screen simply presents every image pixel, one by one. We are obviously NOT limited to 72 dpi, and 72 dpi is not a valid concept. The 200 dpi image is simply larger on the screen, and this was probably our goal, our design for the image.

Exactly what I was saying, or meant to say Razz
I just said that 72dpi is a recommended dpi that some people (not I) tell peopl who don't know any better to scan at. a typical font size on print, scanned at 72dpi, should be readable on any monitor, though obviously shown at different sizes on varying monitors depending on the monitor size and screen resolution... so... yeah Smile
I'm not a stickler about scanning at the smallest possible usable size, so 72dpi holds no value to me, as I scan everything pretty much at least 150dpi and edit the files graphically to whatever final size I need for its purpose... photos are a different matter than text. for graphic artists, I would assume the natural feeling is the larger the scan, the better, because we'll always take it to our graphic program of choice, and edit to fit our needs...

it just bugs me when people use 'dpi' when in reference to monitor displays... :S grah! It's only useful in reference to converting to or from physical detail - scanning from print, or printing from PC...

anyway, back on topic Razz

I may be one of the only people left who believe these snippets can all come from the same 'article'. It doesn't have to be a large press release (and btw press releases can be fairly small, a paragraph or two)... many newspaper articles are simply one or two paragraphs as well... but it has more of a feeling of a news story than a press release (semantics) to me...
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 		I think the sentence structure and the tone is completely different in the sofa in the stairwell excerpt. They could be part of the same thing if you imagine a front page story on the lost cube and a side column about some prank at the academy...like in an academy student paper?
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 		mikey, its been said. i think with the latest encylcopedia entry, its pretty obvious that what we are getting are different fragments of different stories.

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