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Nadif · Unfettered Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 318 Location: Brazil

I tried snake(green), butterfly (light blue, like air and possibly like souls?), fire (red), and for the last 3, well, it's quite hard to say. I tried raven (dark blue), trident (purple) and dog (yellow). No luck.

M.

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:00 pm

Meak · Decorated Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 230

everytime you submit an answer it says

"you're recommendations are not correct. return to the beginning"

this sentence really grates with me, and kind of makes me think of that quote that Jon says - "everything seems to begin where it ends".

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:07 pm

Nadif · Unfettered Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 318 Location: Brazil

Are you suggesting that maybe we should do it backwards?

M.

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:14 pm

Yorkie0362 · Boot Joined: 15 Jan 2005 Posts: 16

well the golden spiral is reversed, so that makes sense

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:16 pm

ryandrew

How do you mean, do it backwards? Where have you gotten that from?

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:19 pm

Nadif · Unfettered Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 318 Location: Brazil

I mean, invert the order of the numbers. Or maybe invert the order of the symbols - of course, to do this we should have an order for the symbols...

M.

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:33 pm

ryandrew

Hmm, i dont really see any logic in doing that. I think "return to the beginning" means to refer to when this ARG started, by visiting one of the original sites, namely hewalksamongus.com
I just think it's trying to get us to remember the signs.

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 7:41 pm

Faithers · Guest

I get the feeling the grid and how it's solved has something to do with Faust and Johann Von Goethe.

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:25 pm

lepidopteran · Guest

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:31 pm

Faithers · Guest

I am reading it at the moment to see if I can't come up with something..so far I have just passed his introduction to the devil as the black poodle....

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:43 pm

lepidopteran · Guest

i might be on the right track here... im now reading von Goethe's Faust, and i stumbled across a passage that mentions butterflies, the trident, and fire... but thats all so far...
this is what the passage reads:

"Like the finished butterfly,From the chilly chrysalis,Slipping, with quick unfolding wings,Boldly into the sunlit air, 9660
And courageously fluttering.
So did he, the liveliest,
And he quickly demonstrated
By the most skilful arts,
That he'd always be the patron 9665Daemon of thieves and jesters
And all seekers of profit.
From the Sea God he quickly stole
His trident, and from Ares himself,Slyly, his sword from its scabbard: 9670Bow and arrows from Phoebus too,
And tongs from Hephaestus:
He even stole Father Zeus'
Lightning bolts, not scared of fire:
Then he tripped poor Eros up, 9675
in the toils of a wrestling match:
As Venus kissed him, too, stole away,
The ribbons from her breasts."
http://www.tonykline.co.uk/Browsepages/German/FaustIIActIII.htm

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:47 pm

Nadif · Unfettered Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Posts: 318 Location: Brazil

I don't have time to read Faust tonight, but IF there is a clue for us hidden in there, it's probably something related to alchemical elements and their symbols. If I remember correctly (which is doubtful, since about a decade has passed from the time I read the book for the first and only time) there is something about alchemical creation of more or less precious substances.
I'm not so sure Faust holds the key to the grid puzzle anyway, to be honest.
I can't help thinking that the crucial clue(s) we're missing must be in one (or more) of the in-game sites.

M.

**Posted:** Mon Feb 28, 2005 11:56 pm

Faithers · Guest

Well, I read through the tradedy of Faust and some of the symbols were mentioned. The dog, trident, flames and serpent were definitely mentioned..the butterfly wasn't mentioned directly, but indirectly it was. Same with the Raven. Problem is..even though they were all mentioned..that doesn't help in any way in solving the grid. I thought maybe it would have something to do with the way they were introduced into the story, but that seems completely random...oh well, was worth a shot anyhow.... Shocked

**Posted:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 1:17 am

Nirke · Boot Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Posts: 37 Location: Israel

Can someone post the Webcam_8 picture plz. And remined what the hell is it and where have we seen it ?

**Posted:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 2:42 am

rowan · Unfictologist Joined: 12 Apr 2004 Posts: 1966

**Posted:** Tue Mar 01, 2005 3:10 am

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