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[POSSIBLE ARG?] Unholymovie.com
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Nightmare Tony
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Thats a good idea, but not about posting the script online. Want to keep the mystery there.

hoepfully, the indie moviemakers picked a bad business poartner to host their puzzle website. But this still raises supicions all around...
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 4:28 pm
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green ice queen
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any joy with the spywarewarrior and info bout this game Nightmare Tony?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:18 pm
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Hmm, someone starts an "ARG" for the sole purpose of instilling trust, then harvesting player info and maybe even getting the players to install some spyware in the form of an in-game app.

This is the kind of thing the alarmists have always warned about, heh. ARGs being used for nefarious purposes. Not saying it's the case here, but it does serve as a good reminder.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:19 pm
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Nightmare Tony
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Nothing yet. I was also informed that an earlier one pulled that trick, something called DarkCode. That was before my time, though.

There is no reference to the 16 sites on Spywarewarrior. Lets see what google turns up.

I am HOPING i6t is just a case of a bad place to host. If we can find more information on the moviemakers and contact them, to find out if this is a valid ARG or a possible scam. I dont plan to play this one, but its better to know.

good work with the whois, Steve. Always keep the flags going.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 5:35 pm
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Nightmare Tony
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Googe proved most interesting.

Do a google on Sky Whisper which is supposed to be the people doing it. But their WEBSITE is on the same kind of server setup.

coverclicksllc.com

Here
This is the studio website, which I say supposed. It doesnt seem to cotnain actual contact information, and brings up said government action. Which MAY be within game context, if it is.

The name Joshua Blumenfeld also comes in as SkyWhipser owner. And also sdhows up as a Colorado university student.

here
Joshua Blumenfeld is alsol supposed to be CEO of this company (cached copy from google, for safety Smile. Coverclicks sounding like a spammer operation.

Checking out ROKSO....
No showing in ROKSO for Coverclicks or Joshua Blumenfeld.

Nicholas Brendan's website shows it to be a real movie project.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443678/
The same with IMDB.

http://www.the-dma.org/cgi/sldisp?companyid=00248537
Josh's company does direct marketin,g is a member of DMA.

here


Based on all of this:
The Colorado Joshua is merely a student. No bearing here.

Joshua Blumenfeld of New York is indeed doing the movie which is a real thing.
Joshua Blumenfeld also owns a direct marketing aka spam operation, known as Coverclicks LLC.

The websites listed on that server are all owned by Coverclicks. Unholy is not an outside client of it.


I have my caution flag up bigtime in terms of this being a real ARG or not.

EDIT - ginormous URLs - SG
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:38 pm
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vpisteve wrote:
Hmm, someone starts an "ARG" for the sole purpose of instilling trust, then harvesting player info and maybe even getting the players to install some spyware in the form of an in-game app.


So when Martha says they are watching you.......she means it. Shocked
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Nightmare Tony
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Steve: no word. am hoping that someone will reply in there sometime.

I am tempted to call tomorrow, to see if this is a real game or merely a gimmick. Steve, do you know of a way to disguise a phone number going through Vonage?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 23, 2005 11:38 pm
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http://pro.imdb.com/title/tt0443678/

ignore the big box infront of u and look around it or view the source.

maybe it reveals some good info?

FILMAKERS:
Daryl Goldberg - director
Sam Freeman - writer
Thomas R. Rondinella - producer
Jeff Maher - Cinematographer
Jeanelle Marie - Production Designer
Savvas Paritsis - Editor

PRODUCTION COMPANY: Catfish Studios

google the peoples names, find their blogs, find their emails, and email them until they reveal giant plot secrets!

googling catfish studios brigns up, http://www.catfish.be/contact.php
contact them, theyre web designers...hmmm...

This is also the budget of the film:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443678/business

Where it is beign filmed:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443678/locations

Other than those filmakers you can look at:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443678/fullcredits
which has the whole list.

an article on the movie:
http://www.fangoria.com/news_article.php?id=3400

just some basic info above...but whats catfish studios?

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Nightmare Tony
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I would bet that Catfish is a small production company and this is their first production. The same applies to Sky Whisper who previously did Zomby Honeymoon. I am working on a horror movie myself which has a small production company contracted out to a major one, so I see how that works.

The movie is quite definitely real, no doubt there. Its just the ties in with the producer being a spammer and if the game wants personal information. THAT is where my red flag goes up.

If it doesnt ask for personal information, fine and dandy. But if it does, I be wary.
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green ice queen
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is it possible we have 2 different Joshua Blumenfelds? one whos the spammer and the other who isnt? or am i just being really naive?
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Nightmare Tony
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There is 2 of them on the net. The one in Colorado is a student there.

The one in new york owns Coverclicks, LLC and is also the movie producer. That is why the movie website is on all the spam wwebsites on the server.

I am hoping its a legit game, I really do. Just remember, if it asks for personal information, that is where you want to avoid. No emails, no names, etc....
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Duckie
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Just felt like jumping in. I got a personalized email about, say, 5 minutes after sending mine? exciting. I told her my name was Sarah Kiddo, she replied
Quote:
>From: Mtownsend07SPLATaol.com
>To: sarahkiddoSPLAThotmail.com
>Subject: Re: Hello, Martha
>Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:31:45 EST
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>Please don't tell me your name. The more I know, the less safe it is. For
>both of us. They mu


The cut-off of must is hers, not mine.
Of course, if she is a little spammer, then she's being serious about how we prolly should be careful about our information. Heh.
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Nightmare Tony
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Am hoping they are treating this as a serious game effort rather than a spam thing. At least that email is definitely in the right spirit, and the less information thing mentioned I do like.
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urthstripe
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Well, I haven't seen this posted, but if you scroll down on the Unholymovie site you see

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
beware of the experiment

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I found some information on the movie at a site dedicated to horror movies (bloody-disgusting.com) Here it is.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
The film deals with a grieving mother, Martha (Barbeau), trying to uncover the terrifying secret that is jeopardizing her family. Along with her son (Brendon), Martha becomes entwined in a conspiracy involving a fabled witch, Nazi occultists and the U.S. government. The film is inspired by an actual military document found discussing elements of Nazi witchcraft that were smuggled into small town Pennsylvania following World War II by the U.S. administration.

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