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AbuAmaal
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 		Spec: Guides and planets
Program: look for planetary/zodiacal symbols connected
with the four guides.

It seems possible to pick out four symbols corresponding
to our guides.

Maybe also four runes (if one of those x symbols is intended
to be a rune).

Maybe the pisces and fish symbol are involved too.

So what I'm suggesting is: four groups of four symbols,
each involving astrology, with a rune and a guide picture included.
Maybe cued in to Blavatsky's Secret Doctrine, maybe not.

Throwing this out at random as I can't look into it right now.

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What I don't know at all is this: if we had picked out the
four symbols on the Carlyle/Blavatsky pages, what
would that have told us?

- AA

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Barbarellany
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 		the cross that's on it's side is Nauthiz meaning need or lacking. i don't know that it is associated with a planet.

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 		The runes [assuming the straight line symbol on the grid is one "Isa"] are also associated with the zodiak.

Fehu-meaning cattle/wealth, element-fire, zodiak-aries
Uruz-meaning ox or extinct ferocious beast, element-earth, zodiak-taurus
Thurisaz-meaning Thurse {Giant}, element-fire, zodiak-mars
Isa-meaning ice, element-water, zodiak-moon
The X could refer to Gebo(?), element-air, zodiak-pisces..or Naudhiz, element-fire, zodiak capricorn

Is there a fire, water, earth, air connection maybe?
Don't know if it means anything....
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Barbarellany
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 		Sorry, I guess I should have put it here. Dale has solved it and has a new email from the guides. One of the quotes might be Woodsworth.

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 		For what it's worth, the first quote is Wordsworth, it's from "Tintern Abbey" I don't know what the other one is, or if it's a quote at all.

--kt

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 		menhirs are gravemarkers. I think they are sending him to the cemetery.

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 		That sounds right ... it also makes sense with the rest of the quote. Maybe Dale will have to meet a guide in the cemetery or there will be some sort of message there, or on teh website.

Does this mean we don't have to solve the grid anymore? Or should we still be working on it?

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The Menhirs

The Breton word, used to define this unique monument, signifies "upright stone" (in Sardinian, "predas fittas"). Iconless, sometimes rough but more often worked to various extents, on their front or profile. They are found in small groups, occasionally in circles or, rare indeed, in rows.
http://www.enteturismo.nuoro.it/archeologia/en/categorie.asp?IDC=11&IDL=EN

Some of them carry engravings.And they cast a clear-cut shadow
After the cross, the most frequent symbol is the 8: the alchemical sign for time measure.So, some time ago, another people thought that menhirs were clocks.
http://www.interausa.com/megalits/menhirs.html

These stones were set up on the slopes of hills, usually near springs, tombs, or other important sites. They may have acted as signposts, or symbolic guardians of these sites.
http://www.beloit.edu/~arthist/historyofart/neolithic/menhirs.htm


Most of what I've read is very similar to the above...or akin to a "stonehenge"/standing stone type thing. Although I did read in one place that one of the many theories is the possibility of "memorial markings", but there are others.

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 		naming
Barbarellany wrote:
menhirs are gravemarkers. I think they are sending him to the cemetery.


So that would be the name for the symbol in the grid in the first column, second from top
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 		Re: naming
dmax wrote:
Barbarellany wrote:
menhirs are gravemarkers. I think they are sending him to the cemetery.


So that would be the name for the symbol in the grid in the first column, second from top


On the "local businesses" page on the Aglauranj home page, there is a banner to "Beersheeba Package Goods" (www.aglauranj.org/busads.html). Beersheeba is a standing stone (menhir) in Cornwall, England (read more at www.megalithic.co.uk/article.php?sid=6075). Another possible name for the symbol in the grid?

You can find more on Beersheeba from another angle at www.geocities.com/elliefaustino/books/citiese.html. "The city of Beersheeba, accompanied by two projections of itself, one celestial and one infernal".

--- If it sounds like Greek, it probably is ---

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 		GOT IT!
I was working too hard on the associations of the pics, etc. It's much more straightforward than that. The carlyle.html page gave it to us.

1) four symbols
2) grid background
3) the four symbols spell out G R I D

Globe
Rune
I ?
Dragon

Next step, which symbols are the ones we need to spell the next step. Take those, figure out a reasonable initial and form the clue. We don't need to do them all, since only some will be pertinent, I suspect.

Someone else with the mad math skillz pick it up from here. Oh, Diandra?....

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 		I had the same thought when I saw the four symbols on a grid background. It HAD to be grid.

Since the you explained the 'first positions' part (the first letter of each symbol's name), we still have to incorporate the 'single digits' aspect of the clue, which is the squares where the single digits appear in a mod 23 table. Those are the symbols which need to be translated.

I began the translation, and recognized a very famous poem right away.
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"Burnt Norton", Four Quartets

The author's name is our next mythosphere page
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t.s.eliot

...and it gives us a new mythosphere address.

BTW, the spider is an "i"nsect.

Dia
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 		Insect?


good job dmax

We were typing at the same time Diandra Razz
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 		Since no one else has posted it yet,

Full decode: There are some one off errors near the bottom.

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N E I T H E R / F R
O M / N O R / T O W A
R D S / A T / T H E / S
T I L L / P O I N T /
T H E R E / T H E / D
A N C E / I S / B U T /
N E I T H E R / A R
R E S T / N O R / M O
V E M E N / A N D / D
O / N O T / C A L L / I
T / F I X I T Y / W H
E R E / P A S T / A N
D / F U T U R E / A R
E / G A T H E R E D /
E X X E P T / F O R
T H E / P O I N T / T
H X / S T I L L / P O
I N T / T H E E ? / W
O U L D / E N / M O / D
A N C A / N U D / T H
E R E / I S / O N L Y
T H E / D A N C E


The sorta gibberish at the bottom is caused by the guides missing on the grid, if you look a symbol in front, it'll make sense, but there's plenty of poem at that point to id it.

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