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Misgizmo · Greenhorn Joined: 07 Mar 2003 Posts: 7

cryptogram locks

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:27 am

lanzz · Boot Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 25

has anyone noticed that there are two places where the vertical border between two squares is partially erased? in both cases it is a thin border, and the left square contains an eye looking straight:

one is between 1st and 2nd columns, 16th row;
the other is between 3rd and 4th columns, 13th row.

the borders in general seem precisely drawn to pixel accuracy (each square is 48x48 pixels, excluding the border), so this doesn't seem to be accidental. could this be some kind of a hint? sure makes that type of eyes look special.

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 11:35 am

confucious · Greenhorn Joined: 21 Mar 2003 Posts: 4

Source code hints information

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 4:18 pm

Hojo

doubles?

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 4:21 pm

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kt · Kl00 Joined: 05 Dec 2002 Posts: 42 Location: Los Angeles

I don't know anything about decrypting, but per Dale's e-mail, the codes that led to the grid web pages were encrypted using a "28-hour clock" and then a separate code number. In the code that hasn't been figured out the lowest number is zero and the highest is 24. Is it possible that this could use a "24 hour clock" instead of 28?

This is totally a shot in the dark, as I don't understand the system well enough to really know if that makes sense. Smile

--kt

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 4:50 pm

AnthraX101 · Entrenched Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 797

The 28 hour clock is just a way of describing the modulus operations.

AnthraX101

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:09 pm

Spuds

Fonts... and stuff...

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 5:47 pm

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catherwood

Re: doubles?

Hojo

my bad, i didn't notice the extra lock or unicorn among a couple others...so is there a pattern to this? [the two keys are from the right, first row second down and second row fourth down]

Cheers ~H~

also, i think that the beetle resembles more a dung beetle [Scarabaeidae] than a king crab...not sure

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 6:57 pm

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BrandonPrice · Boot Joined: 02 Mar 2003 Posts: 17 Location: Pittsburgh

Okay, the type of cipher described is a variant of what is called an affine cipher. Choose some number to multiply everything by, and another to add. so you get a * letter + b mod 26 = ciphertext letter. of course, we're working mod 28 for the most part. The B that you add also takes care of shifting a from starting at 0.

So, here's the thing that speeds up computation. A and your mod number (28) have to be relatively prime. This means no shared factors. So for 28, you only need test an A of 3, 5, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 23 and 25, provided you're plugging the result into a script that ROTs the result.

Why post this? Because I'm lazy and I'm hoping someone will write a program to try every affine cipher for every mod value up to 50 before I get home from kung fu. If not, I suppose I get stuck with it.

happy hunting

-Price

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:05 pm

Spuds

Glyphs or whatever....

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 7:07 pm

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mrpotatoe

SPEC symbols grid

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:08 pm

AnthraX101 · Entrenched Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 797

Here is what the first system reverses to with differing values of "m" and "n"

EDIT: This one -should- be correct, but not sure about that. It doesn't display ones that had unresolved numbers.

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:25 pm

AnthraX101 · Entrenched Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Posts: 797

For reference, here is the result when you use the "table pattern" code:

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 8:37 pm

drizjr · Guest

QUESTION: re first source code at antisthenes

**Posted:** Wed Mar 26, 2003 9:03 pm