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Ashurbanipal
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Paradiso page title updated to:

"eschew the lexical"

Also received an email this morning:

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Hail and well met, Great and Honorable One!

I bring tidings, but if they of good or ill I cannot say for sure. He
has returned, and rests now as we prepare to learn what He has found.
Should the devoted and worthy wish to learn His message, they must
first pass the Trials.

Such is how it has been, and so it shall be. In ages past, the
harbingers could take a generation to bring the worthy to attention.
Now they succeed in less than a week! But there is no need to make a
journey to a place of gathering - His message may be shared in a
fashion similar to the Trials. If you are one who would seek His
truth, be steadfast. The time draws near!

..vs_faery..


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enaxor wrote:
This is an email I got this morning as another reply to my email from yesterday.

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<enaxor wrote:
> Heh, so we follow the path and we get red herrings.


You must forgive my stepson. He was not known for his cleverness, but
for some reason now seeks to win his Father's approval through his
creation of these trials. I have been expressly asked not to
intervene. So strong and brave, he has seemingly now found a passion
for learning. Strangely, it seems to coincide with an obsession with
your culture! I only hope his zeal does not overshadow the message he
is trying to convey. Sometimes he even reveals a touch of his uncle
in him, no matter how hard he tries to deny it. But he is a pure
soul, good of heart and spirit.

Follow his Trials. Make his father proud. Do this, as a favor for me.

..vs_faery..



Hmm. "my stepson." "his Father."

Sounds like Faery might be female, since if s/he's male, wouldn't she refer to herself as his "stepfather" rather than "father"?

Ashurbanipal wrote:
Also received an email this morning:

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Hail and well met, Great and Honorable One!


LOL, looks like Faery liked your name, too. Smile

Ashurbanipal wrote:
"eschew the lexical"


Well, lexical obviously is having to do with words -- but what words are we eschewing? Confused
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Ok so eschew is escape, and lexical is having to do with words, grammer dictionary, something. Aw hell, lexical could even be talking about anything from language to font for all we know. I googled the phrase and only came up with a pdf about hypernyms, which I guess is kind of like a synonym, so I tried a bunch of different names for red herring and came up with nada, but that might be the way to go, maybe.
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Tiny wrote:
Ok so eschew is escape, and lexical is having to do with words, grammer dictionary, something. Aw hell, lexical could even be talking about anything from language to font for all we know. I googled the phrase and only came up with a pdf about hypernyms, which I guess is kind of like a synonym, so I tried a bunch of different names for red herring and came up with nada, but that might be the way to go, maybe.
Tj-


I wonder if it means we're NOT supposed to be trying to translate the Dingbats into letters.
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Whoever stated it back in the forum, it does translate to "neither fish nor flesh" I typed it out with no caps then translated it to wingdings, and it came out those exact words, except all the arrows don't translate. If you take all the arrows out, then you get that quote, but I don't have a clue what the arrows are for. They are spaced in the middle of words and in between words, no real pattern that I can pick out.
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Whoever stated it back in the forum, it does translate to "neither fish nor flesh" I typed it out with no caps then translated it to wingdings, and it came out those exact words, except all the arrows don't translate. If you take all the arrows out, then you get that quote, but I don't have a clue what the arrows are for. They are spaced in the middle of words and in between words, no real pattern that I can pick out.
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Tiny wrote:
Whoever stated it back in the forum, it does translate to "neither fish nor flesh" I typed it out with no caps then translated it to wingdings, and it came out those exact words, except all the arrows don't translate. If you take all the arrows out, then you get that quote, but I don't have a clue what the arrows are for. They are spaced in the middle of words and in between words, no real pattern that I can pick out.
Tj-


Oops. Missed that somehow. Embarassed

So what words should we be eschewing, then?

Hrm.
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Use of lexical intrigued me and came up with a few interesting definitions and uses:

This being the first link from google when searching definition lexical:

http://atheism.about.com/od/logicalarguments/a/def_lexical.htm

as well as

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The lexical definition of a term, also known as the dictionary definition, is the meaning of the term in common usage. As its other name implies, this is the sort of definition one is likely to find in the dictionary. A lexical definition is usually the type expected from a request for definition, and it is generally expected that such a definition will be stated as simply as possible in order to convey information to the widest audience.

Note that a lexical definition is descriptive, reporting actual usage within speakers of a language, and changes with changing usage of the term, rather than prescriptive, which would be to stick with a version regarded as "correct" regardless of drift in accepted meaning. They tend to be inclusive, attempting to capture everything the term is used to refer to, and as such are often too vague for many purposes.

When the breadth or vagueness of a lexical definition is unacceptable, a precising definition or a stipulative definition is often used.


Not sure how it helps except to say that perrhaps we shouldn't assume it means we are to ignore the words but rather ignore the definitive defintion of said words? Dunno

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I think we don't need to read too much into this.. basically it says: "Ignore the letters" .. doing that, we are left with symbols & arrows.. we could also ignore the symbols i suppose

Looking at the arrows, I'm not sure how they could be solved. They're not all pointing at symbols, or have symbols at the other end. They form 6 out of 8 compass directions. You can draw a sort of inverted cross with a pointy arrowhead if you connect them.. An inverted cross symbolizes satanism.. Just throwing out ideas here..

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Ya know, if you check all the links on the main page, there's actually 3 links, not 2 "intruly" "4nswc" and "4nwsc" I think that wasn't noticed the first time through, or it changed recently.
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arrows

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Looking at the arrows, I'm not sure how they could be solved. They're not all pointing at symbols, or have symbols at the other end. They form 6 out of 8 compass directions. You can draw a sort of inverted cross with a pointy arrowhead if you connect them.. An inverted cross symbolizes satanism.. Just throwing out ideas here..


just noticed that the shape of the arrows, the inverted cross shape, is the shape of the wingding symbol for the letter 'f', ascii 102.

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Ashurbanipal wrote:
Also received an email this morning:

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Hail and well met, Great and Honorable One!


LOL, looks like Faery liked your name, too. Smile


Noticed that! Maybe I should use it to my advantage

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sweet

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That symbol is the zodiac sign of sagittarius. check out http://vagabondssojourn.net/sagittarius/


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Re: sweet

Ashurbanipal wrote:
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That symbol is the zodiac sign of sagittarius. check out http://vagabondssojourn.net/sagittarius/


Nice!

1=P or phosphorus

2=C or carbon

3=B or boron

4=Sb or antimony

5=Tb or terbium

6+6=S or sulfur

7-1=Li or lithium

8=Bk or californium

9=Rf or Rutherfordium*

3,7=F or flourine


Title: it takes chemistry

*I think. ROTH's periodic table lists "Ha" as element number 105, but all the ones I've looked at say that's Db.

Hmm.

Also, significance to the colors?

Red, then yellow?

Probably nine or ten trials to go with the nine or ten planets.
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went looking for info on element Ha. Seems it is another name for Dubnium. But, when browsing element sites, noticed an uncanny resemblance between the electron energy states diagrams, and the orbital paths of a solar system. See here http://www.chemicalelements.com/elements/db.html for a sample. Could have some relevance.

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I'm no chemistry buff, but none of these elements seem to have a connecting factor. Most of them were known to ancient people, and Phosphorus was even the ancient name for Venus, but Californium and Rutherfordium and Terbium are very recent discoveries.

Maybe we are to chemically combine all these elements and enter the resulting element into the URL? *hmm* I don't think it's that straight-forward though. What about the numbers? *gah*

I think this is less about the elements themselves and more about the numbers and their placing.
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