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Phaedra wrote:


EDIT: Okay, so who are famous mythological/legendary vagabonds/wanderers/wayfarers?

Odysseus, obviously. The Flying Dutchman. Sinbad, Maddoc, St. Brendan, La Llorona, Orpheus.

Hmm -- from a religious/biblical perspective, the prodigal son, Jesus, a lot of the prophets, the Wandering Jew -- all sort of wandered.

Dunno.


Obviously there is only one truely legendary vagabond, Jack Shaftoe, King of the Vagabonds, Very Happy
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 		http://tinyurl.com/4nswc = http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metamerism_%28color%29

Anything? I dunno. Maybe....

EDIT: tinyurl.com/intruly doesn't exist, for those wondering.
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 		very interesting...
A page about how one color looks on another...

and tiny images with colors....

this is fun! There is more here!
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 		You know how I said images/ffffff.gif had no word in it? I lied... messed around in photoshop and got:

Primummobile

No idea what that means.

Edit: Okay, it appears to be a word, phrase really...

Primum Mobile:a self-caused agent that is the cause of all things
(i.e. God is the Primum Mobile)

Also, www.primummobile.com is registered with GoDaddy, but not up yet.
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Marrec wrote:
You know how I said images/ffffff.gif had no word in it? I lied... messed around in photoshop and got:

Primummobile


Oh, well, that's G-d.

Something that causes itself, and then causes everything else.

EDIT: <sigh>

Oh well, I got there first once today, I'm happy. Smile
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 		Primum Mobile
1. The tenth and outermost concentric sphere of the universe thought in Ptolemaic astronomy to revolve around the earth from east to west in 24 hours and believed to cause the other nine spheres to revolve with it. 2. See prime mover (sense 1).

This is the Ptolemaic Universe we are seeing here....with the Earth in the middle.
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 		Re: Primum Mobile
ariock wrote:
1. The tenth and outermost concentric sphere of the universe thought in Ptolemaic astronomy to revolve around the earth from east to west in 24 hours and believed to cause the other nine spheres to revolve with it. 2. See prime mover (sense 1).

This is the Ptolemaic Universe we are seeing here....with the Earth in the middle.


OMGWTFBBQ1!!!11!!!

The Vagabond is PTOLEMY!!!!

Okay, actually not.

So the Vagabond is a tenth planet, probably. Hmm. And its "return" is when it lines up with something or other?
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 		Ptolemaic Universe... hmm....

Anyone read Paradise Lost recently? Wasn't Milton's universe a Ptolemaic one? I think I might go back and have me a look see at it.
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Marrec wrote:
Ptolemaic Universe... hmm....

Anyone read Paradise Lost recently? Wasn't Milton's universe a Ptolemaic one? I think I might go back and have me a look see at it.


Well, if you stretch it pretty hard, you can make the Ptolemaic universe sort of fit with the biblical one, in which heaven is a dome that opens to allow in the "upper waters" (i.e. it rains). By, I think, roughly the 15th century, Ptolemy's concepts were looking a bit...motheaten.

Milton often uses images from outdated scientific theories in his work -- see, for example, his reference to crystal spheres in "Morning of Christ's Nativity" (I think that's the title -- don't remember for certain...go Google if you're interested).

In Paradise Lost, specifically, since it's essentially an expansion of Genesis, he was trying to work within a universe that would fit with the descriptions in Genesis. And Ptolemy provides a lot of awfully neat images that might be hard for a poet to pass up.
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Phaedra wrote:
In Paradise Lost, specifically, since it's essentially an expansion of Genesis, he was trying to work within a universe that would fit with the descriptions in Genesis. And Ptolemy provides a lot of awfully neat images that might be hard for a poet to pass up.


*nod* Thought so. Ptolemy is extremely neat and poetic. I'm just speculating here that maybe we'll find some clue in the rather numerous pages of Paradise Lost. We do have the verses 1:1 to 2:4 from the Bible and the Ptolemaic universe so far, maybe I reaching.

Either way, I e-mailed VsFaery with the text.

"www.vagabondssojourn.net

We await the return of the Vagabond to the nine movable spheres"

Awaiting reply.
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Marrec wrote:
Phaedra wrote:
In Paradise Lost, specifically, since it's essentially an expansion of Genesis, he was trying to work within a universe that would fit with the descriptions in Genesis. And Ptolemy provides a lot of awfully neat images that might be hard for a poet to pass up.


*nod* Thought so. Ptolemy is extremely neat and poetic. I'm just speculating here that maybe we'll find some clue in the rather numerous pages of Paradise Lost.


<groan> I *hate* Paradise Lost. With a passion that borders on the holy. Please, please no. Can't we do some nice Donne instead?

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We do have the verses 1:1 to 2:4 from the Bible and the Ptolemaic universe so far, maybe I reaching.


Hmm. "History bends but cannot break the light of his truth," right?

I think we may be dealing with a biblical literalist. A biblical literalist faery.

When you bend light, you refract it, yes? Usually causing a rainbow (like the rainbow of colors on the website?).

Biblically, the rainbow is the visible sign of G-d's promise never again to flood the earth.

Hmm. Again, I wonder what happens when the Vagabond returns.

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Either way, I e-mailed VsFaery with the text.

"www.vagabondssojourn.net

We await the return of the Vagabond to the nine movable spheres"

Awaiting reply.


I emailed our colorful friend with the following:

Phaedra wrote:
May I ask you some questions?

Why do you go by the name Faery? For there are certainly no faeries
in His word, unless you count the Nephilim.

Is the Vagabond the 10th of his kind?

How long has he been wandering?

What will happen when he returns?


So, we'll see. Smile

But did you get the email about the "harbingers"?
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Phaedra wrote:
<groan> I *hate* Paradise Lost. With a passion that borders on the holy. Please, please no. Can't we do some nice Donne instead?


Don't worry, I was going to sacrifice my fragile little mind to scour Milton. Believe me, I hate Paradise Lost as much as the next person with cognative thought...
Phaedra wrote:
Biblically, the rainbow is the visible sign of G-d's promise never again to flood the earth.

Hmm. Again, I wonder what happens when the Vagabond returns.


Some disastrous event perhaps? The colors do form a pretty little rainbow if you line them up.

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But did you get the email about the "harbingers"?


*nod* I got the e-mail about the harbingers with "Let not the illusion of those phantoms blind you to the message of His truth" at the top.

What about this Nephilim? Anything interesting?
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 		Double posting:

Got an E-mail back from Faery...

VsFaery wrote:
The end is sometimes the beginning. Ask yourself, if you have come to
the end of the beginning, or the beginning of a new beginning.
Everything in the universe is connected, even if those links are
hidden from sight.


Think that's a pretty obvious sign that there is more to the Vagabondssojourn.net website then we are finding.
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 		[Speculation]
To spec a little on the vs_faery, the number 3, and the picture of the shoe. The first time I looked at the shoe picture I noticed that the foot was getting ready to stomp on a symbol of intertwined triangles. And the name vs_faery reflects, in my opinion, someone against the occult/faery/wiccans. As an aside, J. Kepler's mother was convicted and killed for be a suspected Wiccan.

From an occult site: "The nonogram is a nine pointed star, also called the Ninefold Goddess. In Norse myth, it unites the Nine Worlds. Itcan also be seen as the eternal connection of the 3 trinities: Maiden, Mother, Crone; Youth, Father, Wise Man; Mind, Body, Spirit.

It consists essential of three triangles, or three times three. Three is a very important number to the Celts."

Is vs_faery/the vagabond/sojorner crushing the faery types?

As a more of a observer to ARGs I also found out that "Nonograms are logic puzzles that originate in Japan. A Nonogram consists of a series of numbers that can be used to determine a picture. The puzzle comes from building this picture from the numbers, but it's important to understand how the numbers were derived from the picture in order to complete the puzzle."

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 		...or am I floating in a tin can...
So I was just checking out www.vagabondssojourn.net and for laughs I punched in www.vagabondssojourn.net/4nswc.

Of course it took to me to the Not Found page so I hit the back button.

After a bit the planets began freaking out and totally jumped out of the nice orbits they were in.

Now the site has planets flying all over the place.
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