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cemgate
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LLL email

Got this:

Quote:
From :
AgentGGSPLATgov.gov

To :
SuspectsSPLATL3.com

Subject :
Questions about Landau, Luckman, and Lake

Please read the attachment carefully, complete, and respond as soon as possible.

Thank You



Attachment:

Quote:
Dear Sir/Madame,
Each person being contacted has had some form of contact with the law
firm of Landau, Luckman, and Lake and each of you is asked to complete
this debriefing questionnaire and return it via fax to (509)756-2889.
Make sure you answer all questions completely. By ignoring this request,
you needlessly expose yourself to further suspicion. Expect any
information you provide to be used to contact you in the future. Do not
discuss this investigation, nor alert anyone to this investigation.
Expect a follow-up within a week. Do not attempt to mislead us, as we
will be corroborating your responses with those of other parties and
information previously gathered via other means.
INSTRUCTIONS
Carefully complete each question, including all details you can recall.
Once you have completed the questionnaire, fax a copy to the above
number, keeping a copy for yourself in case of follow-up questions. Do
not forget to fax it once it is complete. Enquiries regarding this
questionnaire can be sent to the above fax number.
Name (Last, First, MI)
Address
Address cont.
City
State
Zip
Country
Email Address/Instant Messenger Type and Name
Phone
1. What is your relationship with Landau, Luckman, and Lake?
2. When did you first become aware of Landau, Luckman, and Lake? Did
you initiate the first contact?
3. Was there ever any monetary solicitation or exchange between
yourself and Landau, Luckman, and Lake?
4. What documents were you provided?
5. Who else are you aware of who has been in contact with Landau,
Luckman, and Lake?
6. Who else have you spoken with regarding Landau, Luckman, and Lake
or matters related to the firm?
7. Have you ever been on Landau, Luckman, and Lake's premises
(offices, locations)? If so, please provide dates, locations.
8. Do you or did you ever have any items in your possession from
Landau, Luckman, and Lake?
9. Do you have any information relating to the attached envelope?
10. What political organizations do you belong to? Have you
ever been a member of any anti-government groups?
11. Have you or any members of your immediate family been
outside of the US in the last three years? If so, when, where and
for how long?


Note there is also a pic of an envelope at the bottom of the doc. to LLL from HexEdit.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 1:02 pm
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Caterpillar
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am trying to attach the pdf file
agentgg.pdf
Description 
pdf

 Download 
Filename  agentgg.pdf 
Filesize  92.69KB 
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 1:17 pm
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Caterpillar
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Not sure what it all means...but it's labeled TO:SUSPECTS (plural) so anyone else get one?

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 1:25 pm
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sapagoo
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Posts: 1213
Location: Atlanta, GA

The postal barcode looked interesting, so I did some research.
http://www.cedar.buffalo.edu/Adserv/postcode.html

The postal barcode (POSTNET) can have 52 or 62 bars in it.
Ours has 62
ll..l.ll.....l.lll.....ll....ll...llll...ll..l.l..l.l..l...ll
Separate the first and last tall bar, and then group the rest into 12 groups of 5 bars
l l..l. ll... ..l.l ll... ..ll. ...ll ...ll ll... ll.. l.l.. l.l.. l...l l
Each group of 5 bars translates to a single digit in this format
ZIP+4+2+ checksum.
The ZIP+4 you've probably seen before.
The +2 appears to be a more detailed way to find a street address.
And the checksum (as explained below) will verify that you decoded the zip correctly.

I decoded it out to 80203-1100-99 (7)
I then googled 80203-1100 and found at least 2 addresses:
"Norwest Bank For Any Metro Denver Norwest Bank Denver CO 80203-1100"
and "1775 SHERMAN ST, DENVER, CO, 80203-1100"
Then I googled "1775 Sherman St" and found several law firms:
"Friedlob Sanderson Paulson & Tourtillott, LLC"
"Wood Ris & Hames "
"Cox Padmore & Skolnik Shakarchy"
among others.
so my guess is that 80203-1100 could be in Denver's Law district.

Sapagoo

NOTE: to verify the checksum, just add all the digits together. You should
get a multiple of 10. in our example, 8+2+3+1+1+9+9+7=40, so there wasn't a problem.

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 1:56 pm
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sapagoo
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and the fax number (509)756-2889. appears to be in Spokane Washington, but when I google for (509)756, I find dozens of companies from all over the map (CA, NY, NJ, MI, NC, etc) using the 509-756-xxxx block of numbers as Voice Mail/Fax numbers.

unfortunately, I can't find out who has 2889, or who gives out those numbers.

sapagoo

PostPosted: Thu Mar 27, 2003 2:15 pm
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grumpyboy
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From my post at CD:

The 99 at the end of the postnet zip code (80203-1100-99) is called a delivery point code. Apparently a delivery point barcode (in our case, the whole bar code including the 99) is required for bulk mail discounts.

For simple addresses without suite or box numbers, the delivery point code is the last 2 digits of the street number. Otherwise it's calculated from a complicated formula.

If you look at the blacked out parts of the address, you can make out "1775 S------n St" on the first line and "1100" at the end of the second line (it's easier to make out now that we know what the address is). The rest of the second line is probably Denver CO and the rest of the zip.

As for the return address I confirmed that the zip is indeed Tucson AZ but that zip is only for 12601 to 12699 (odd only) on E. Broadway. Further searching seem to indicate that 12701 does not exist on E. Broadway in Tucson (the street only goes up to 12699).

PostPosted: Fri Mar 28, 2003 1:18 pm
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cemgate
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Even their home page is citing "Shut Down Pending Gov. Investigation"

http://www.landau-luckman-lake.com/

~cem

PostPosted: Sat Mar 29, 2003 8:25 am
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Varin
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lll site

The LLL site was shutdown by the federal government because of Fraud and Related Activity in Connection with Computers. Also, the site shows an ASCII art knight chess piece. I'm assuming that the questionaire we are supposed to fill out and fax is from the investigating parties within the federal government. Hehe, I'm almost scared to fill it out. Smile
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 4:35 pm
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grumpyboy
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My guess is that this is the PMs way of making game registration feel in-game. Either that or one of these days, the FBI is gonna knock down my door. Shocked

PostPosted: Sun Mar 30, 2003 9:04 pm
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First post and my first taste of ARG! I hope I can keep up with you all. That examination of the postal barcode was pretty intense!

I did notice that the return address has the name Hexedit, as if it were a company name. There are several hexadecimal editing programs, or perhaps different versions of the same one, that you can read about if you Google.

Does this mean that the numbers either on the barcode or the address should be converted to hexadecimal or thrown through a Hexeditor? What about .wav and image files?

Hexadecimal is base 16, composed of 0-9 and then the letters A to F, where 10 = A, 15=F and at 16 it starts over again so that 16=10, 25 = 19, 26=1a, 31 = 1f and then back to 32=20 (20 = 2x16). Not sure this helps. Confused

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 4:05 pm
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erikzen
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Here's a simple decimal to hexadecimal converter:

http://natali.mine.nu/test2.html

80203 = 1394b
1100 = 44c
99 = 63
12701 = 319d
85748 = 14ef4
7208 = 1c28
1775 = 6ef

Is this going anywhere? Sad

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 6:25 pm
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drz
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I did a bit of research on the hexedit program and found the names of the original developer and the two people who have taken over. One of them Max Horn had no website; another Nicholas Shanks had a site under construction and the third, Lane Roathe had a valid web page. When I visited that page, the Projects Link led to a page where 4 separate links led to the same page. I wrote to Lane and asked her about it.

Is this a simple typo or a real clue? Do we have a link to the PMs?

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 6:55 pm
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drz
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Hexedit Follow up

The email address for the http://www.roathe.com/projects.ws4d
site was not valid. It was pointed out as being especially cute and interesting that it failed. It was freudSPLATroathe.com

PostPosted: Wed Apr 02, 2003 7:13 pm
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grumpyboy
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Did a bit more research and found that the whole structure at the upper right corner of the envelop is an Information Based Indicium (IBI) or PC postage developed by the US Postal Service.

More specific details:
(1) The seven vertical marks is called a Facing Indentification Mark or FIM and is used by the cancelling machines to sort mail according to whether or not they have bar code and their postage requirements. The specific one on the L3 envelope is a FIM D, which is used only with IBI postage.

(2) $0.37 is consistant for first class mail from zip 85748 to 80203 for a letter weighing less than or equal to 1 oz. So whatever was sent was not big or heavy.

(3) The 12 alphanumeric sequence below the barcode is the Device ID/type from which the IBI was printed. From the format of the IBI, it appears that the IBI was printed from product/service provided by endicia.com (other providers are pitneyworks.com, stamps.com and simplypostage.com). In addition, although I'm not sure which digits on the sequence stands for what but from the demo pics on the endicia site, the first 8 digits are the same as those on our envelope (maybe the first part of the sequence is a supplier code and the last part is the specific customer?).

(4) *IF* this was a real IBI, the barcode would be PDF417 and would contain encrypted information containing a unique digital signature for verifying that the postage info has not been tampered with. It would also contain various processing information. From the examples I've seen for real IBI's, the barcode should have more columns and rows though. So either the PMs made a dummy barcode to hide some info OR had to make one because what they cut and paste from the web had "void" on it (which is what i saw on endicia.com)

I'm not any closer to finding what's on that barcode (if anything at all) but sure learning a lot about the US postal service. Smile

PostPosted: Wed Apr 09, 2003 2:30 pm
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Spuds
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LLL Envelope...

You should also be aware that the address doesn't exist. It's basically in the middle of a patch of land that has nothing on it. The roads stop and go around it.

You can check the postal database for addresses and it will cross-reference to a zip code. The last address it shows on that street is 12699 E. Broadway. Continuing on in that direction lands you in that patch of land.

Strange.

Spuds
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