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[Update] 28 March Perplex City Sentinel
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Zzedar wrote:
If you take the first letters of each Future, you get "eswahdtdmahb," which can be rearranged to spell "web dash ad htm."

Nice. Seems like a lead.

Ofcourse there are other options, like "he was badd htm" and "BH was dead htm".

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Worker wrote:
Zzedar wrote:
If you take the first letters of each Future, you get "eswahdtdmahb," which can be rearranged to spell "web dash ad htm."

Nice. Seems like a lead.

Ofcourse there are other options, like "he was badd htm" and "BH was dead htm".


the only thing that makes me think this is a dead end is that we would be looking for a .htm page. all the other pages on the sentenal site are .html. as a genrel rule of thumb, when making a website one uses all .htm, or all .html not both.

just my 2 cents.

PostPosted: Tue Mar 29, 2005 11:42 am
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I'm pretty sure the Futures are a puzzle unto themselves. My current spec is that each future is a clue pointing to a character from Greek mythology. ie, from last week's The Eagle: "Heel, boy" = "Heel boy" = Achilles. If you stop reading them as horoscopes and start considering them in this light they start to make a lot more sense.

BTW, someone on IRC mentioned the "Heel, boy" thing, which is what got me thinking in this direction. But I don't remember who it was, so I can't give credit. Sorry.

I also believe that the "eel and cucumber rolls" = "unscramble older clue" is correct. It was a kick in the ass from the PMs to get us to go back and look at last week's futures.

This weeks futures are further clues I think. Thus the "Floundering?..." future would also indicate Achilles (if Achilles is indeed the correct answer, which I'm not sure of. Other suggestions have been Zeus and Hermes).

Anyways, I'm not really well versed in Greek mythology, so I'm having trouble coming up with answers that I'm really confident about. So I'm throwing this out there hoping people can run with it.

BTW, you can get a nice reference to both sets of Futures at http://wiki.incognitus.net/ppc/index.php/Futures
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almost certainly wrong but ......

get together with a like mind this week. Let two halves make a sphere. = lovers

Your fiery nature ignites a skirmish against a rival team. = match

Funnel your energies into something positive, and stop it. You know, before someone loses an eye. = ventures or adventured
funnel = venturi energies = es positive = add loses eye = -i ---- adventured or ventures

so lovers (match) adventured maybe

ok maybe not Smile


lovers = "mooning about james" ?
hmmmmm
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I can't help but think of the phrase Ascendancy Point as something astrological. A bit of searching turned up this:
http://www.neroprediction.com/charts.htm

The quote that drew me in is:
"According to the most famous astrological manual that has come down to us, Firmicus Maternus's Mathesios written in 334 AD, the sun on the ascendant (the eastern horizon) "

referring to the "ascendant" as the East--this may indicate the direction of a large mass for the Perplexians. From the letter:
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As for the notion that the gravity of other planets could affect us here, a trivial calculation shows that the Ascendancy Point exerts far more gravitational influence on us than any planet

This makes me think that we're referring to a star, or some very large body that is not a planet. Zzedar made a comment in his post on the history of Perplex City (http://forums.unfiction.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=9377), that perhaps the city is the remains from an older civilization that fell apart. What if the city is in fact a section of a world that broke off, and continues an orbit? Discounting, of course, the problems with gravity and holding an atmosphere, it might explain their apparant isolation. Either way, I find it signficant.

A bit of rehash, to tie in: Syzygy, the from the title of the ARG, is also used in the first link posted:

"The exact positions of Nero's Saturn and Mars as well as the transit full moon are important for this delineation. At the instant of syzygy (opposition, in this case) the moon was at 25 degrees and 9 minutes of Virgo which means that she was moving into an unfortunate square with Nero's natal Mars which is at 25 degrees 54 minutes of Sagittarius."

Since it is also astrological, I think it lends a bit more weight to the relevance of astrology/astronomy playing a role for Perplexians.

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Plus, there's still that strange occurance of "SCARLET" in the first letters of all the names on the Masthead page on PCS...
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Avatrix wrote:
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As for the notion that the gravity of other planets could affect us here, a trivial calculation shows that the Ascendancy Point exerts far more gravitational influence on us than any planet

This makes me think that we're referring to a star, or some very large body that is not a planet. .


No, this doesn't need to be a reference to a very large object at all. It appears to me that the quote is intended as a reference to why astology is bunk (hokum, twaddle, nonsense, and so forth). Astrology advocates typically state that the gravity of the planets at the time of your birth impacts your personality. But because gravity falls of as the square of distance, relatively small but nearby objects (like a car in the street, or an ascendancy point on the far side of town Very Happy ) actually have far more gravitational impact on us than huge but far away objects (like planets). As I stated before, there is a very good discussion of it here
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thebruce wrote:
Plus, there's still that strange occurance of "SCARLET" in the first letters of all the names on the Masthead page on PCS...


Their appears to be an atypical/large amount of "k" and "y" in the Masthead names. 7 of each (when you include the subsection ", City" in the count)

KEY maybe?
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Carmilla wrote:
thebruce wrote:
Plus, there's still that strange occurance of "SCARLET" in the first letters of all the names on the Masthead page on PCS...


Their appears to be an atypical/large amount of "k" and "y" in the Masthead names. 7 of each (when you include the subsection ", City" in the count)

KEY maybe?


Didn't the error logs have something to do with E as well?

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Am I the only one who gets the feeling we are really missing something here? I mean, since The Sentinel went live, we've made little or no progress, which I had previously thought was because they were giving us time to digest the info. However, now I feel like there IS something in the Sentinel for us, and we are really missing it. The futures are really cryptically worded, as though something is there. Could it be that it is just too difficult for us? I might be wrong; they could still be leading us into the start. But I don't know... I've been pouring over these futures all day, and I can't find anything, even though there is so much of it!

Eel and cucumber rolls/Unscramble older clue just makes me even more certain that there ARE anagrams in this stuff. Some people have said this is wrong, anagrams have not played a part in PPC. But look just look at the futures page... "It's time to get back to basics. Traditional values are on the rise." Doesn't get much more basic than anagrams, surely?

Sorry to have to moan about it, but when you know something is there but you can't find it, it's really exhausting!
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Solitude wrote:
Didn't the error logs have something to do with E as well?


Search is your friend. Learn to love and embrace it. Or just use it and throw it away till next time - it won't care.

Even if you did a seach on "error logs e" you would find this post which in turn would point you to the motherload of these posts
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stormalong wrote:

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BTW, someone on IRC mentioned the "Heel, boy" thing, which is what got me thinking in this direction. But I don't remember who it was, so I can't give credit. Sorry.


that was me! I also found references to other Greek characters but I am not sure what to do with them... I am also not sure if I am finding these because I am looking to make something match?

I also have the idea that each message could relate to a story.

I will look at this some more later.
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maxim wrote:
Am I the only one who gets the feeling we are really missing something here?

I agree. I'm hoping that it's just because we haven't figured out this ARG's style of puzzles yet. Generally puzzles become easier to recognize (and harder to solve) as an ARG goes on. We just haven't gotten to the "easy to recognize" stage yet...

And the fact that you can find an anagram in just about everything if you look hard enough doesn't help either.

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Spec The Spider

The Spider (April 11 - May 10)
The Archer has you in her sights. Should your subdolous ways slip, she'll snarl. Scarper.

Lots of S's here... Some of these words are far from common, looks like the PM were looking for S words in a thesaurus...

Spider
sights
should
subdolous
slip
snarl
Scarper.

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rose, LOL, should have known it would be you. Smile

I'm thinking that once we find a name for each Future, we take the first letter of each name (12 letters) and thats our answer. It might possibly be an anagram, due to the prod we got "unscramble older clue" (assuming, of course, we got that correct).

I picture the "Heel, boy" clue as an easy one, a freebie. The PMs put it in to get us thinking in the right direction.
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