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[PUZZLE] PerplexCity Sentinel - Futures Section
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they'realloutogetme
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Web's done, so take a time out. Get to the library and ask yourself, "What would Charlotte do?"
I think this is important somehow. Was there a particular book Charlotte liked to read that we could find? I seem to remember her saying that when she needed to think she would hang upside down, to get the blood to her head. Maybe we are all supposed to stand on our heads in libraries Wink
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 		Haha, loving your sig, they're. It reads like something from Red Versus Blue. Smile

See how I keep to the whole ILB theme?

Maybe the Futures are just mainly cryptic-looking nonsense with te odd message to us from the PMs thrown in. Like the Charlotte's Web thing?

No, I don't believe it either...

Back to hair pulling frustration I guess Sad
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 		Okay, this futures thing is driving us all to distraction. So there may have been a couple of hints about what was coming up last Friday (22nd April), i'll give Madame B that. But overall I think they're just screwing with us! The PM's know that we are analysing the future's every week, so are coming up with more cryptic sounding things to write. Especially referring to one sign from another one, very tricky and leading us up the garden path.

I hope i'm wrong on this one, however the whole thing smells a bit 'fishy' to me.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 25, 2005 2:56 pm
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 		Warning: Herein lies big Specs...
This is my first post, and this is my first attempt at an arg puzzle. I was wondering how of base I could be. Is this useful to anyone?:
Right, so there was definitely an acrostic in the third futures, first letters. There was probably one in the first: miiisytiry. More out on a limb you have wtwryw in the fith week, www - try (start looking, prod, prod).
In each futures you have 12 months, I reckon that there will be 12 futures in total. This will make a grid like this: (where x = unknown)

Code:

H   M   I   I   I   S   Y   T   I   R   Y   Y
F   T   S   T   G   Y   Y   M   U   I   Y   Y
P   A   T   I   E   N   C   E   K   I   D   S
Y   W   G   T   E   Y   A   Y   W   T   L   D
W   T   W   R   Y   W   L   Q   A   I   C   Y
Y   M   S   W   D   G   Y   I   P   S   I   A
x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x
x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   
x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x
x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x
x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x
x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x   x


Well I thought I'd look for a new direction, this is it... The letters are suspiciously narrow in range, lots of Y's, but is that just because things are squewed because the letters begin the sentences?
Then I was thinking that like a roll or a sphere you could move the matrix of letters by column or row: first row + 1 becomes: YHMIIISYTIRY and first column +2 becomes: xxHFPYWYxxxx. The thinking behind that was to use the 24 digit number on the postcard to decode the 12*12 letter matrix, first 12 numbers for each of the columns/rows second 12 for each row/column. But then it didnt work and the e-mole thing happened... but then they could design the puzzle around the number. How else could I use the number?
Why did I follow this path? the game is about a cube, how do you make a puzzle game cube themed, give it a 3d puzzle. I had the huntch that each month within each future contains 12 significant letters, making a cube of letters 12*12*12. The futures is the perfect place to hide a puzzle like this. Then the whole solution to the game is contained within the first(ish) set of info given to the players, neat, bolshy, annoying, I think thats what I'd do.
What dya think?

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 		The Eagle (March 11 - April 10)
As the pop song goes, you'll never get the spoils if it's not in the cards. Stick a card up your sleeve, snookums, and let the spoils come to you. But just this once. Our secret. Yours, mine, and the 5 million strong Sentinel readership.

Five of Cups owner Bernardo Holyoke, 53, was found dead in his bar late yesterday morning

Is there a broader Tarot connection? If each of the futures corresponded to one of the Minor Arcana that would give us a series of numbers between one and ten.
The golden ratio has already cropped up in another area, part of a mathematical puzzle, as well as in this weeks futures.
Any potential in this line?

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Worker
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Conner wrote:
Warning: Herein lies big Specs...

Awesome job thinking outside of the box!

way, way, WAY outside of the box... Very Happy

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riemanns
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 		yeah, that idea is much more interesting than mine. How far can we go without the full cube? I hardly know where to begin...
Acrostics and anagrams inside the cube? Shift through the lines using the 24 digit number and take whatever comes up first?

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 		This was hijacked from the 26th article thread
terminalskeptik wrote:
Is it just me or are there similarities between the futures section and some of the latest headlines..e.g.

The Spider (April 11 - May 10)
You are a rare and special flower. No, really. I don't care what all those other people say.
Petel Returns from Brink to Victory

The Eagle (March 11 - April 10)
As the pop song goes, you'll never get the spoils if it's not in the cards. Stick a card up your sleeve, snookums, and let the spoils come to you. But just this once. Our secret. Yours, mine, and the 5 million strong Sentinel readership.
Five of Cups Owner Found Dead

It seems like maybe the futures are instructions to/from someone. That could also be why of all things Sente lets the Futures through to the external Sentinel.


I like where this was heading. I think. Just figured I'd swing it over in case anyone missed it. I've been trying to find a link between the dates listed (the perplexian zodiac), the dates posted (the week that the futures show up in the paper), and the dates of the actual events (4/22/05 email, etc.). Am I wasting time? Help!

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 		Futures...Truth in the stars??
Very much like Rieman's thoughts.

Just struck me that Madame B refers to these horoscope-type segments as 'Futures' instead of 'Stars' , as we would do. Are we at all sure these titles (Archer, Apple-thief etc) have any astrological connotation? I mean, our horoscopes are basically taken from pictures we find in the stars, and the movement of celestial bodies "predicts" earthly activity. I'm suspicious because, as we know Syzygy describes the movements of the earth, moon and sun. What with a sign called the Three Balls, I'm most Perplexed.

I guess we should approach the futures by asking:
Firstly, whether they have any deeper significance at all
Secondly, whether each update is a puzzle in itself
Thirdly, whether they fit together as a whole

I reckon the message "patience kids" indicates the second, but doesn't rule out the third (best not to underestimate these people, eh?).
But I think the linking theory, whilst attractive, bears little fruit..(boom boom), in that one tends to pick and choose to find patterns as one pleases.
Half of me says wait. The other cannot.

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 		I just don't know. I've looked through all the futures and still I see nothing. I do think, however, that we're probably putting too much importance on the "Charlotte's Web" one. I doubt that's really as crucial as we think. And, if the PMs were hiding a puzzle in it, and we've been missing it for ages, SURELY they'd have made sure we'd have seen it by now? I mean, I don't want to be spoon fed, but they do need to ensure that the players actually spot where there is a puzzle, or the entire game might just stop, as no-one can find the next clue... I think, if there is a clue hidden there, we'll get some kind of key to decipher it later on.

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riemanns wrote:
The Eagle (March 11 - April 10)
As the pop song goes, you'll never get the spoils if it's not in the cards. Stick a card up your sleeve, snookums, and let the spoils come to you. But just this once. Our secret. Yours, mine, and the 5 million strong Sentinel readership.

Five of Cups owner Bernardo Holyoke, 53, was found dead in his bar late yesterday morning

Is there a broader Tarot connection? If each of the futures corresponded to one of the Minor Arcana that would give us a series of numbers between one and ten.
The golden ratio has already cropped up in another area, part of a mathematical puzzle, as well as in this weeks futures.
Any potential in this line?


This is my first, and a far stretch... With the Eagle post, and with Holyoke dying, there might be some kind of connection... First of all, the Futures mentions the 5 million strong readership, and the article about Holyoke mentions that he was the owner of the Five Cups and died at 53. 5, 5, 5. 5 3 ... The Cube. Kind of a link there.

Another pointer that they might be connected is just the text itself. You'll never get the spoils if it's not in the cards, so just take the card, and the spoils. Someone might have been waiting to get what was in the bar, and couldn't wait anymore so they just took it.

Lastly, the Futures mentions the "secret" is between the Eagle, Mme Bianca, and the 5 million readers. This is the farthest stretch, but I remember someone posting about how the citizens of Perplex City seem to be logic based and thus might not be interested in something like the Futures (hence it being the last paper to still have them). So maybe the 5 million readers wouldn't read that "secret" in the Futures, but they would catch a front page headline like someone being murdered in a bar.

Anyhow, just trying to dust off the cogs in my head...

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 		OOH OOH OOH!!! I'VE FOUND SOMETHING!
http://www.perplexcityacademy.com/students.html#
HAS A LIBRARY SECTION!!!
You can't do a keyword search unless you're a student though, you have to search with the "document code", so maybe we have to work that out? Charlotte in cipher?

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 		nope, if you look at the JavaScript in the source code it shows that the same message denying acces will always come up no matter what is entered.

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 		Just a little theory to put a short term dampener on what could be a long term game.

There's a chance anything in the futures will only become apparent towards, or after the end of the game. An easter egg for people who finish the game and then look back over it.
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 		I'm not sure if I'm being too literal, or if this has been discussed before but the Futures section appears to be pointing towards Violet.

The Half-filled Jug (July 11 - August 10)
Well, tip you over and pour you out: someone's hiding a lush secret. It's not as covert as you think. I spy with my little eye a spider in the know.

Which makes me think the Spider is hiding a secret...

The Spider (April 11 - May 10)
You are a rare and special flower. No, really. I don't care what all those other people say.

And violet is a flower. Maybe not a particuarly rare one, but it suggests not everyone may feel that.

Does this means Violet has a lush secret... Maybe I should probe round her blog again

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