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[InspJJ]

It would be cool if they wanted some of us to take on certain roles - however there is a rule, more or less gospel as far as I can tell, that the PMs aren't supposed to trawl these threads to marvel at our brilliance (good job!!!).

[Verbloten]

Oh i didn't know that - i just assumed they would be here all the time laughing at our theories and conclusions!

[Cold_Fire]

PM's spying on us!

[songofthephoenix]

[Mikeyj]

As soon as you publish something like that, people are going to start indicating which they are...eg Tanner and his half filled jug, so the first horoscope would be a hook and those after would be conveying info based on whose said what since...

...conversely I like songofthephoenix's idea too, but here goes

Madame Bianca...an Archer at your command! (within reason please, I won't take my clothes off in public )

[Atrophied]

I think the rule about PM's is that they're allowed to look through what we're doing, but not interact directly via forum posts or OOG IRC. Unfiction is ALWAYS OOG. They should not directly refer to what we're doing here, but can change things based on our progress here as long as they don't explicitly say that's why they're doing it.

[Verbloten]

I'm new to all this - but i don't know why there would be ANY rules around what they can and can not do. It's all up to them. There just can't possibly be rules to this thing! They run the show - they can do whatever they like!

[Mikeyj]

SpaceBass's advice to PMs

[uptownishnyc]

Up front, sorry for the long post

On the idea of Madame Bianca looking at this forum and responding--

Sure PM's aren't supposed to directly interact with what we do here...

BUT, if Madame Bianca is a seer/astrologist/etc., then wouldn't it make sense that she would have some method of "sight." And if that method of sight was these forums, a random glimpse of people on earth, wouldn't that correspond to her giving predictions to the citizens of Perplexcity? Afterall the similarities of our worlds are profound.... yada yada. So she see's what we're doing, makes predicitons based on that for each sign but TO the denizens of PPC, having absolutely nothing to do with us. Afterall, isn't that what seers/oracles/astrologers have always said they've done-- glimpsed into a different realm?

So you could almost say the use of Madame Bianca's futures would be an indirect use of this forum by a character in the game to all the denizens of the game world and not so much a violation of the keeping this forum OOG. That would provide a link for the PM's to indirectly communicate to us if we HAVE missed something major, without being so blatant as an ingame smack upside the head.

I think we definitely should start looking at futures and linking them to people here for direct advice. At least until we have proof that its the wrong thing to do.

[Marvin]

[songofthephoenix]

*scary music*

[InspJJ]

Hey, they can do what they like, the more interaction (hint, Mme Bianca, action...) the better - I merely thought them was the roolz. Wrong again, happy to be so. And I'm a Spider - icky!!!

[Mikeyj]

Have had a small mental crisis about all this but come out to the same opinion as InspJJ. What I still don't get is...do we have to pretend that Scarlett can't read the forum? Despite the fact she trawls the net for cube references...we must also assume she ask's Jeeves rather than googling like she should.

Here's for willing suspension of disbelief.

Don't be too hard on spiders...Charlotte from Charlotte's Web is one of the best I know (that ending... )

[Scott]

In as much as there are *any* rules fFor an ARG . . .

Dave Szulborski says some really good stuff on the topic ofARGs and how they are played in his book. well worth a read. In short, All games must have some things which particpants agree on. These are commonly known as rules. If there are no rules, there is no game. Yeah sure, this isn't a game. Well, it is. So there are rules. And one of them is the PMs cannot interact directly on this side of the curtain. They should certainly be expected to read anything and everything we say and do. But they should never interact on these or any other fForums. Compare it to a game of D&D, if you like. The DM must be able to see what everyone on the playing fField is doing, but fFor him to pick up a player character and start fFighting the bad guys is a direct no-no.

This should not be confused with rules fFor the unfForums, which include much more rigid specifics like "thou shalt not make new accounts to promote thy game."

[songofthephoenix]