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Caterpillar
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 		TuringPrinciple's Pathways
I thought we could use a thread in the Puzzle section in order to keep the pathways straight. Please use this only to add pathways, and continue to post conversations in the Interaction forum.

EDIT*** Just so this doesn't get muddled, I will just keep adding to my original post.

So far we have:

Via AIM
Quote:
INPUT: Missing Manuscript?
turingprinciple (11:16:07 PM): keyword acknowledged –
INPUT: Optatio Venatio?
turingprinciple: keyword recognized –
turingprinciple: Can you tell me what it means? [/b]
INPUT: Wish Chasing
turingprinciple: secure node pathway - keyword missing manuscript -e-mail turingprincipleSPLATnetscape.net with "wishchasing" in the subject line for more data.

This email was then received by Diandra
Quote:
Keyword acknowledged. Secure procedure activated. Watch for secure data delivery.

Then an email with a link posted by Valas via kona:
Quote:
http://vhost.oddcast.com/vhssplayer.php?acc=2298&ss=71338&sl=0&l=1&h=300&w=400&bc=FFFFFF&mid=2626&t=1

Which was:
Quote:
turingprinciple stating:
"Look for me online and input this phrase to continue. The phrase is Sacred Text. The phrase is Sacred Text.

Via AIM
Quote:
INPUT: What is sacred text?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway - Henricus Cornelius Agrippa von Nettesheim sought out Trithemius in Wurzburg, where the Abbot had fled from his rebellious monks. In the wake of his visit, Agrippa produced and dedicated to Trithemius the famous manuscript version of his later much amended and expanded master work.

Dia found the actual book title
Quote:
INPUT: What is De Occulta Philosophia?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - missing manuscript pathway - Of intelligences and spirits,…. Book III, Chapter
(It wants the chapter number in Roman Numerals)
INPUT: XVI
turingprinciple: keyworld acknowledged - missing manuscript pathway complete - You have accessed the secure knowledge node. E-mail turingprincipleSPLATnetscape.net with "secret writing" in the subject line to receive a link to the secure knowledge node.

Following the directions nets you this from TP:
Quote:
Keyword received - a message awaits. I have hidden information inside an oldwebsite of Peter's that he has neglected since beginning The Answer Project.Hopefully your accessing the information here will go undetected.

http://www.neothought.com/tptdxxfg.htm

turing principle

Which leads to:
Quote:
Another turingprinciple statement.
"Tap.Tap. You have accessed the Missing Manuscript Secure Knowledge Node. Listen Carefully. "
011010000110010101110010011011010110010101110011

Which is
Quote:
Binary for hermes

As posted by Varin leads to:
Quote:
http://www.neothought.com/hermes.htm

Geist wrote:
Quote:
INPUT: what is secret fire?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secret fire - secure knowledge node accessed turingprinciple: http://www.neothought.com/sknsf.html

dmax
Quote:
new keyword...
INPUT: magic wand
http://www.neothought.com/sknmw.html

Lazarus:
Quote:
INPUT: What is magick?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway
turingprinciple: Magick, spelt with a "k" to differentiate it from conjurors tricks and illusions, is a term which was coined by Aleister Crowley in the early years of the twentieth century.
turingprinciple: "The Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will". from his book "Magick in Theory and Practice". He also compared it to and named it in relation to a religion from the East.

Cemgate
Quote:
INPUT: What is the Yoga of the West?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge pathway - magick turingprinciple: Crowley often called magick "the yoga of the west". Crowley believed that the results obtained by the combination of visualization (and other techniques of altering states of consciousness) with religious and philosophical ideas in medieval ceremonial magic bore a remarkable resemblance to the association of Yoga (and its often purported supernatural effects) with the religions of the East.
turingprinciple: This tradition has been passed down into the modern magick systems such as the the Strega trad of Italian descent.

the42guy
Quote:
INPUT: strega trad
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway - magick
turingprinciple: The Strega trad are a trad of Italian descent. A "trad" is a particular hierarchy of deities acknowledged by its followers, often according to geography or culture. The Strega trad direct their prayers to the Roman gods and was founded in the 20th century, and set forth to establish pagans in the eyes of a modern era as respectable members of society.
turingprinciple: "I foresee that a day will come, and that perhaps not so very far distant, that the world of scholars will be amazed to consider to what a late period and immense body of antique tradition survived in northern Italy, and how indifferent the learned were regarding it . . ."

Varin:
Quote:
the last is a quote from Charles Godfrey Leland

Lazarus/Varin
Quote:
INPUT: who is Charles Godfrey Leland?
TuringPrinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway - magick
TuringPrinciple: Charles Godfrey Leland was the founder and first president of the Gypsy Lore Society, and was a prolific author and folklorist. He is best known, in this day and age, as being the author of: Aradia or the Gospel Of The Witches. * end of this pathway *




~cem

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Varin
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 		gives us a website...

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
http://www.neothought.com/hermes.htm

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Shelina
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 		Posted by Geist (I just re-posted it here to have the keywords alltogether Razz)

I just though alchemy was transformation of base metal's into gold. Yet seems there is also a mystical side that involes the soul reaching celestial sphere. Myssfitz noticed that elixir has popped up again and farther down the page it has:

In the Sufi tradition the stone or elixir was regarded as a state of mind. In Sufi development the seeker has to pass through seven stages of preparation, these stages called 'men' are degrees of transmutation of consciousness.

This led me to go to http://www.alchemylab.com/secret_fire.htm and talking to turingprinciple get this:

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urbanman202: what is secret fire?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secret fire - secure knowledge node accessed
turingprinciple: http://www.neothought.com/sknsf.html


PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 10:34 am
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Steffeny
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 		Keywords and paths
Shelina wrote:


This led me to go to http://www.alchemylab.com/secret_fire.htm


Quote:
One was the Central Fire hidden within matter at its very center, which is God's Will in matter, or the One Mind acting on the One Thing.

I notice some of the phrases on this page sound familiar...
Several times TP has said, to me several times "we think with one mind, Steffeny...

Could it be that
Elementary Fire
Secret Fire
Central Fire
Celestial Fire
are keywords to the next bit of information?

PostPosted: Tue Aug 05, 2003 2:16 pm
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urbanman202: what is secret fire?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secret fire - secure knowledge node accessed
turingprinciple: http://www.neothought.com/sknsf.html
[/quote]

lol...I asked this very question after the first secret node was given. I guess it wasn't quite ready and like TP said "Sometimes you have to ask me more than once"... Smile (Just an FYI as we go not to discount something that seems important because you don't get an answer).

~cem

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 		[guytalk]I like to put my pointer at her chest and have her stare there the whole time she's lecturing.[/guytalk]
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dmax wrote:
[guytalk]I like to put my pointer at her chest and have her stare there the whole time she's lecturing.[/guytalk]


[girltalk]but what they don't know is what we say about them to each other after they walk away. Some of it is not very flattering.[/girltalk]
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 		Adding to top message instead.

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cemgate2002 wrote:
He also compared it to and named it in relation to a religion from the East.


That's an awfully vague statement for TP, she danced all around the name of that religion. Whatever it is, I bet it's the next keyword.

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 		Crowley
At work, so can't break things all out, but...
Quote:

Magick is the Science and Art of causing Change to occur in conformity with Will.


one word to try for me, if anyone gets a chance... Abracadabra or Abrahadabra(crowley's spelling)

more on Crowley's Theory here:

http://www.hermetic.com/crowley/aba/defs.html

-m

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 		Re: Crowley
monkeypants wrote:
At work, so can't break things all out, but...

one word to try for me, if anyone gets a chance... Abracadabra or Abrahadabra(crowley's spelling)


hehe, I tried abrahadabra today, although I wasn't being entirely serious. I got...

Quote:
[17:58] LOrgana1: ABRAHADABRA give me a keyword!
[17:59] turingprinciple: Are you paying attention? Hello? Hello? Is this thing on?
[/quote]
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 		Re: Crowley
Varin wrote:
hehe, I tried abrahadabra today, although I wasn't being entirely serious. I got...

Quote:
[17:58] LOrgana1: ABRAHADABRA give me a keyword!
[17:59] turingprinciple: Are you paying attention? Hello? Hello? Is this thing on?


Laughing You should post that in the funnies (Comic Relief/Interaction). It might be fun to read that thread over when we're done. Too funny:)

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Shelina
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 		MAGICK PATHWAY KEYWORDS:

cemgate2002 wrote:
Quote:

Quote:
cemgate: What is the Yoga of the West?
turingprinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge pathway - magick
turingprinciple: Crowley often called magick "the yoga of the west". Crowley believed that the results obtained by the combination of visualization (and other techniques of altering states of consciousness) with religious and philosophical ideas in medieval ceremonial magic bore a remarkable resemblance to the association of Yoga (and its often purported supernatural effects) with the religions of the East.
turingprinciple: This tradition has been passed down into the modern magick systems such as the the Strega trad of Italian descent.



From LazarusLong:
Quote:

Googling "Strega trad" gave me the following: http://www.schoolofmagick.com/general/g1.html

Quote:
Wiccan often refers to a particular type of pagan practitioner of magick. The term was coined by the Gardnerians. This sect or "trad" (among many. A "trad" is a particular hierarchy of deities acknowledged, often according to culture. For example, the Strega trad are of Italian descent, and direct their prayers to the Roman gods) was founded in the 20th century, and set forth to establish pagans in the eyes of a modern era as respectable members of society. Many more trads have since adopted the term to identify themselves.

And then I asked TP:

Quote:
LazarusLong567: what is the Strega trad?
TuringPrinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway - magick
TuringPrinciple: The Strega trad are a trad of Italian descent. A "trad" is a particular hierarchy of deities acknowledged by its followers, often according to geography or culture. The Strega trad direct their prayers to the Roman gods and was founded in the 20th century, and set forth to establish pagans in the eyes of a modern era as respectable members of society.
TuringPrinciple: "I foresee that a day will come, and that perhaps not so very far distant, that the world of scholars will be amazed to consider to what a late period and immense body of antique tradition survived in northern Italy, and how indifferent the learned were regarding it . . ."


the42guy and Varin posted the author of the quote at the same time Smile

Quote:
That quote is Charles Godfrey Leland, 1899.


And then Lazarus found the last keyword:

Quote:
Once again, this was too easy.

Quote:
LazarusLong567: who is Charles Godfrey Leland?
TuringPrinciple: keyword acknowledged - secure knowledge node pathway - magick
TuringPrinciple: Charles Godfrey Leland was the founder and first president of the Gypsy Lore Society, and was a prolific author and folklorist. He is best known, in this day and age, as being the author of: Aradia or the Gospel Of The Witches. * end of this pathway *


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 		Shelina,

I thought it would be easier to update my original post with the new info last night for reference sake. I was finding it hard to keep track of in different posts. This way if someone wants to see the progress with TP's keywords they need only pop in here to the top of the thread.

I think I'll move the original post to the QR thread and keep adding to it there...as we're not actually working a puzzle in this particular thread.

~cem Smile

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 		OK, haven't seen you post yet and I wondered why nobody had updated this one Razz

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