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[Barbarellany]

Myssfitz's and mine is also found in Myths and Meanings in a chapter called myth and music.

http://fast.ebrary.com/Top?hasPlugin=1&id=2002719&ifp=18b

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[Myssfitz]

Re: email from Seekers

[Duluoz]

I sent a blank message (seeking nothingness?) and received the following quote:

What is the difference
between gods and humans?
That many waves before each
from an eternal stream
The waves lift us up;
the waves overcome us,
and we are swept away.

According to [url=http://www.parkview.net/mainmenu/teachers/susangarber/mythology/Notes%20on%20World%20Mythology%20(sg).html]this site[/url], the quote is by Goethe.

[Myssfitz]

Thank you Barb

[Myssfitz]

When I click on this, I get a blank page (no pun intended)

[Barbarellany]

So we have 8 different answers if we include Dale right? Do they fit together?

[Myssfitz]

I'm trying to find a connection now. So far I see a lot of "myth", "mythology", and "miracles"

[AbuAmaal]

Re: Goethe

[Myssfitz]

Again, another Robert Ingersoll poem is listed above the one from Goethe.
That seems to be the commonality. I tried inputting:
rgingersoll
robertingersoll
ingersoll
ringersoll
robertgreeningersoll
rgreeningersoll
greeningersoll
green
robert
rgi
at mythosphere.org. I tried to think of all combinations. No luck yet.


Also, if you look down at the bottom of the page (thank you Abu ), one of the books cited is:(I finally got the link to work-my computer is schwey)
Parallel Myths by J.F. Bierlein. It is one of the books the Pine Barren Poets are reading. (http://www.aglauranj.org/library/current.html)
Here is the list:

Favorite Folktales From Around The World edited by Jane Yolen
American Gods by Neil Gaman
The Poet In Exile by Ray Manzarek
Figures of Earth, A Comedy of Appearances by James Branch Cabell
Interpretation of Fairy Tales by Marie-Louise von Franz
The Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath by H.P. Lovecraft
The Enchanted Castle by Edith Nesbit
Once and Future Myths by Phil Cousineau
Neverwhere by Neil Gaman
The King of the Golden River by John Ruskin
At the Bottom of the Garden by Diane Purkiss
Parallel Myths by J.F. Bierlein
The Fairies by Suze Scalora



I could only find the books by Neil Gaman (correct spelling should be Gaiman) at my local library. I checked on Monday.

[konamouse]

Spec on meaning in these emails:

[asmyth]

In that case, I believe the Wish is a living piñata, and when you hit him, candy, money and booze come out.

[Myssfitz]

Nevermind for my above post. It was late. But how about this?

Levi-Strauss had a belief that a myth was a language. He came up with a method called "myhthemes" in order to interpret myths.
http://www.brysons.net/academic/levi-strauss.html


Levi-Strauss is the Structuralist anthropologist in the study of myth. In his structuaralist analysis, what constitutes a myth is not the individual versions, but all the versions together. In studying myth, what one does is study as many versions of the myth as can be found, then abstract from those versions a general pattern or sequence. Levi-Strauss derives at least some of his principles from the linguistics of Saussure: "it is the combination of sounds, not the sounds themselves, which provides the significant data." It is the combination of the versions of a myth, and not the individual versions themselves, which provides significant data.
Levi-Strauss insists that "myth cannot simply be treated as language if its specific problems are to be solved; myth is language: to be known, myth has to be told; it is a part of human speech." From this, he derives the principle that "Myth, like the rest of language, is made up of constituent units." These constituent units, or mythemes, are relations, and the meaning of a myth is to be found in "bundles of such relations."
Levi-Strauss uses two terms to characterize mythological time--synchronic and diachronic--which he relates to the Saussurian distinction of langue and parole. The synchronic is "reversible" while the diachronic is "non-reversible." To study language synchronically would be to study it as an entire system at a given point in time; to study language diachronically would be to study it and its development over a period of time.
Levi-Strauss' method is roughly as follows: He classifies mythemes and then assigns them numbers. He then arranges those mythemes on a chart arranging vertical columns of the same number from left to right on the page.

So with this in mind, take the responses we all got and put them in a "mythemes". I thought of this while going to sleep, so please bare with me. I'm going to throw the idea out and work on them some more.

I don't know if this will have any meaning to what we are supposed to do.

[img]WHAT WE WERE SEEKING ANSWERS WE RECEIVED WHERE THE ANSWERS CAN BE FOUND AUTHOR TITLE OF PROSE & WHERE IT CAN BE FOUND IN THE TEXT
Answers,
“Life is a narrow vale...” www.infidels.org/library.historical/robert_ingersoll/tribute-e_c_ingersoll.html Robert G. Ingersoll A Tribute to Ebon C. Ingersoll

Info about Sarah Wyatt “In all ages man has tried to account...” www.infidels.org/library.historical/ robert_ingersoll/myth_and_miracle.html Robert G. Ingersoll Myth and Miracles, Chapter II, 3rd and 4th paragraphs
Power & Knowledge “Water is the softest and most...” www.geocities.com/shoshindojo/ Lao Tzu Tao Te Ching- Chapter 78
“Thirty spokes are joined together...” www.geocities.com/shoshindojo/ Lao Tzu Tao Te Ching- Chapter 11
The Wish & The Truth “Every positive statement...” Alan Watts The Game of God, The Art of Zen

Nothing, no question “ What is the difference between...” www. parkview.net/mainmenu/teachers/susangarbe/mythology/Notes%20on%20worlk%20Mythology%20(sg).html Goethe Faust


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So after all that, someone else figured out the meaning behind all of the replies we received and did it in a much easier way:

[kingohugs]

[imbri]

my msg from the seekers

[Barbarellany]

The only thing I don't see mentioned and maybe it doesn't belong, but I'm throwing it in anyway.

Jung studied myths as architypes from which all human experience is expressed. Now, since Dr. Kendra is so angry with Dale, are we to assume she is not a Jungian psychiatrist?