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[UPDATE] Sentinel update 20th April.
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Xargon
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 		[UPDATE] Sentinel update 20th April.
Kate Brewster, for the Perplex City Sentinel wrote:
Dev in Northside Supported, Poll Finds
By KATE BREWSTER
A Sentinel-conducted poll has found that supporters of the City Council plan to develop the Northside Preserve outnumber opponents by a 6% margin. The poll showed 46% for the development, 40% against, with an unusually high 14% undecided. The poll also found that opponents of the plan are more passionate, with 72% describing themselves as feeling "strongly" or "very strongly" about the measure, compared to only 36% of supporters.

"This just shows that these protesters are in the minority ... a very, very loud minority," said City Councilor Roy Yolen, who has actively worked for some time to support the measure. "I'm sure in fifteen years' time, we will all agree this was the right thing to do."


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Citizens on both sides of the issue wrote in following last week's Polygon Park protest to air their views. Kyle Anderson, one of the organisers of the Northside Protection League, wrote in: "My sympathies go out to Professor Sedgewick and her crowd of like-minded activists. I, too, believe the city does not need to expand northward. The economy is cyclic, and as surely as it has been going down these last several months, so is it equally sure to rise again in months to come."

Lorelei Park, CEO of Mobius Development Corp. subsidiary Park Realty Corp., argued for the side of development. "This is not primarily an economic or an environmental issue," she said. "The city's population has grown significantly since the last time any new space was opened, and population density has grown even more. If we want to preserve the green oases we maintain in the heart of the city, it must come by bowing to the gentle pressure of outward development now. Simply ignoring this issue will lead to declines in quality of life and more voracious development in the future."

Council Leader Camryn Scott summed up the situation in political terms: "Regardless of how popular this move is, it's the best thing for the city," she said.


Poll Results as of April 19

In an interesting coda, the Sentinel's request for opinions unleashed a flood of articulate and forceful correspondence on the matter, almost universally against the development. Only 7% of Earth inhabitants supported the Northside development, with 19% withholding judgement based on insufficient information. A staggering 74% urged the city to reconsider the plan, asking that we in Perplex City learn from the problems of urban sprawl and environmental damage suffered on Earth.

Rob Palmer of Earth cited Hyde Park and Central Park in some Earth cities as an example to follow. "The parks are also used for leisure activities of all kinds for city residents to relax and wind down from the stresses of life. Therefore I feel that any area of nature within a city should continue to be preserved, as much for our sanity as for our health."

John Macek, also of Earth, agreed: "I think one of the largest problems we have over here is the destruction and development of our few remaining wilderness areas. ... I'd hate to see the overdevelopment of any natural place, and I believe that you can find another solution without expanding into the Northside Preserve."

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 		Hmm.. I used to know a rob palmer - used to be my boss at John Lewis in Reading... Probably not him though...

Okay, so who the hell are they asking? Anyone here (doubt it...)

I don't get it... Very strange... And what's to the north of the city?

Jeb:dunno:

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Xargon
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 		To the north of the city seems to be an area of parkland, or perhaps wilderness. I'm not sure if this holds any significance, but it does show that there are a few people who mau have crossed over, or at least seen maps of Perplex City.

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 		It seems that this article, combined with the last weeks letters, demonstrates how much the Sentinel is interested in our opinions. It's rather heartening to see our influence on Perlpex City's number one newspaper!

(Though I'm sure the Sentinel is only interested in pandering to the public's thirst for everything Earth-related. I bet other newspapers in the city are green with jealousy at their exclusive Earth coverage Smile )
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 		The chat on IRC is mostly righteous indignation concerning who they actually polled on Earth.

Did anyone get polled?

Did they make the whole thing up? Rob Palmer and John Macek, please stand up!
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The chat on IRC is mostly righteous indignation concerning who they actually polled on Earth

:'( Damn my inability to access IRC atm, everyone - ADD ME TO YOUR MSN TO KEEP ME UP TO DATE!!! (jebjoya (at) hotmail (dot) com) - or skype if you want, jebjoya.

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Do you think the Northside Preserve development should proceed? What should be built there, and how should wildlife conservation be considered in the process? Send your thoughts to newsSPLATperplexcitysentinel.com.


They did ask our opinions over a week ago in the "Five Arrested During Northside Protest" article. I suspect that a lot of people actually wrote in to the Sentinel.
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Reason
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 		Rob Palmer is a friend of mine, his nick is RobPal.
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Rob Palmer is a friend of mine, his nick is RobPal.


Ah well, there goes any deeper story there then...

Jeb

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Xargon
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Reason wrote:
Rob Palmer is a friend of mine, his nick is RobPal.


But is it the same Rob Plamer? Does this Rob Palmer actually exist?

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 		Doesn't matter:

that means at least two mails. That does not a whole poll make Smile
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Xargon wrote:
Reason wrote:
Rob Palmer is a friend of mine, his nick is RobPal.


But is it the same Rob Plamer? Does this Rob Palmer actually exist?


Yeah I'm 90% sure its the same guy. I reckon he'll post later. His avatar is the guy banging his head on a desk.
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 		They are undoubtedly using the word "poll" incorrectly. They probably just categorized the email that they received from us and called it a poll. They would have no way of actually polling us.

The word "poll" is often misused and misleading.
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 		It was me!
I admit it, it was me. I'm the infamous Rob Palmer from the article in the Sentinel. The text was an extract from my letter to the Sentinel following the articel about the Northside protest.

As someone has already stated, the Poll was probably based on a catergorisation of our emails. At least they care what we think.

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Yay! They mentioned me in the Sentinel!!! I'm now IG/OOG???
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 		I wrote a letter to the sentinel under a pen name, and I was against the development, but the name I used has not appeared in print.

One of the letters is signed by "Peter Greely" - isn't Horace Greeley the 1800's American journalizt who wrote "Go West Young Man"

THe Futures seem to point to south, greely to west, northside to welll, north . . .
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