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[thebruce]

[INFO] History of the Academy/founders/masters

[maxim]

Don't forget the current master of the academy...

[RobPal]

In the decoded text from Dinah, it says that Naskent Taversen was a major property owner and donated his house to the academy. This will be where Taversen Square comes from. Where number One (the academy) is his old house.

This may have been obvious to a lot of you, just thought i'd clear it up as the top post is a bit vague on this info.

Edit: Sorry, just re-read the top post and it makes more sense now.

[firefox]

perhaps we can make this into a more general history thread? because i would love to start discussing the code from abbey road, and the characters mentioned. i am hoping that there are real life parallels from our own history that coexist/incide with the names and events mentioned in Degabus' history, because that would be cool.


Aetiant Taversen- (first master of academy)
Naskent Taversen- (father of Aetiant, deceased circa 452 donated land)
Degabus of Malmethat- (not a scholar of the academy, a scribe of sorts?)
Mr Sharteen or Mrs Harteen- (the dining companion of Degabus)
Mrs Feon- (landlady)
Mr Beston- (deceased bar owner. deceased circa571)
Varkin- (female scholar, somewhat famous)
Macelvoys- scholar at academy, experiment with static electricity 460-440?


now, the first person in history to discover static electricity:

600BC: Static electricity
Thales, a Greek, found that when amber was rubbed with silk it attracted feathers and other light objects. He had discovered static electricity. The Greek word for amber is ëelectron', from which we get ëelectricity' and ëelectronics'.

1700s: The Wimshurst machine was invented
The Wimshurst machine was invented. It is used to produce static electricity easily and reliably. Two parallel plates are rotated in opposite directions, which produces a charge around the edges of the plates. The charge is collected by a system of combs.†Voltages as high as 50,000 volts can be produced, depending on humidity and other conditions, as well as sparks up to four inches long.

personally i would favour the 1700's or some time before that as fitting in with ye olde english in the code. but then.. can someone pls tell me what the year conversion was (between our time and perplex city.. lets say assuming their 440's bc = our 1700's), if it isnt too much trouble. it is buried very deep in a long forgotten thread, so im sure the newer people would like to see it aswell.

now i know its an actual longshot that we can find parallels to perplex city people- with our own history.. but i have to assume that all that long preparation the pm's had was for something this detailed. why mention static electricity? or the dates, if there wasnt some way to compare them to ours.. but yeah im 80% sure the story was just filler to keep us storyline-loving-players happy until the actual beginning of the game.

either way my post wasnt complete rubbish, i wrote some names.. and dates.. and stuff..
*firefox runs*


editedit: data and facts concerning electricity taken from here

[maxim]

The purpose of this history is really to bulk the story out, make it seem more 'real' or plausible. It's this kind of stuff that makes any story great - a detailed and well thought out universe. It will make the game that much more enhanced, imo.

[firefox]

[maxim]

...even filler has a purpose

[erekose]

[wintermute_au]

well, for my spec on foundation/timeline (wasn't sure where to put this, but it fits better in a history thread given the last few posts...)

i'm thinking the timeline can kind of match our own, and i have a cpl reasons for thinking so... prompted by the "our shared history" comment in the video, but also because some numbers kind of add up

kind of wild spec, but what if our 2210 is their Year Zero... (in a parallel world, where i'm assuming that the yr zero/Cube is what caused the significant difference) That makes the establishment of the academy in the early 17th century, which kind of fits, given the british 'Royal Society' was officially founded 1660 (and we could assume was around informally prior to that). The latest info also suggests it took the Academy a hundred yrs or so to grow/get recognition/money etc, around the time of Taversen... The experiments with static electricity also fit, and I'm inclined to tie in alchymical influences on early science as well...

and the language all fits, the writings in AC referring to BC fit....

i'm also inclined to think the founding of the academy has something to do with the Cube, even if it took them 5-600 years to find... I'm thinking about it in terms of a philosopher's stone, or an artifact with some sort of mystical/super-physical power. The yr0 may then line up with the Cube's 'creation' (ie, scientific discovery), its (archaeological) discovery, or an event directly caused by it...

i also doubt that the academy is 'merely' scientific... 2 points: i. it is likely religious or mystical as well (like Alchemy), ii. it is almost certainly tied to the cube - think the logo with the cube sides and masters names, i doubt a 500year old Academy would suddenly change their logo - either they discovered the cube, or they were specifically created to 'discover' it

-peter

[step]

Am I the only one that thinks that Macelvoy is really a scot and that the name should actually read MacElvoy?

[POTUS]

No, you are not

Carrick and MacElvoy, classic utilitarian scholars I would think. Perhaps one had a daughter named Amber after researching static electricity?

[newzgrl]

It could also be Mac Elvoy..or Macel Voy.

[thebruce]

[erekose]

Now that we have an exact date, we can begin to tell when events there happened here.

since 268AC has been confirmed as our year 2005 AD, and again assuming there calendar is similar to ours, I can revise my estimates.

our calendar has no 'year zero'. We have 1BC and then it jumps straight to year 1AD. This makes 2000AD the 1999th year of the current epoch. To avoid this confusion, PPC's people may have added a year zero (the year in which the cube was found). the relative youth of their epoch, as well as their technological advancement, (even our world was well into the age of reason when the cube was found) makes this more likely in my opinion.

Therefore, their year zero (or 1) was 1737 (or 1738) in our time. to convert from their time to our time take the year 1737 and add AC years or subtract BC years. This means the tech gap should be even more pronounced than my initial estimates, however, the paper seems to indicate a cultural and linguistic level similar to ours, assuming that the paper wasn't altered for our ease of use by sente. They also appear to speak english of a dialect compatible with our era and also have an internet or some other kind of global public network.

(Note to self, stop making enormous posts)

[erekose]

Just noticed this in another thread, the article on the sentinel regarding the "subdivision" restaraunt metions both Newton and avagadro, suggesting they both existed and had significant impact in their world. alternatively they could have some sort of knowledge of our world accessable to the general public and be making fun of us.

I'm not entirely comfortable with that notion