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[Vincent]

Just a theory, but what if Jay is that "Skully" character we've heard so little about. If Skully is with TTA, then that would explain why Hoody and Masky know his password.

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[TheJoker]

Okay, first of all, regarding people who are saying that Jay's memories weren't altered: I agree he may have filled in the gap in his memory himself, but consider this. Jay knows full well he's had memory issues in the past, and when he talks about them he usually tells us "I don't remember this happening". But here, he is adamant that he remembers this not happening. I don't know if he'd make such a big deal about it if it was the same as his usual memory loss.

Also, I'm questioning the intentions of Alex and The Operator more than ever. You could assume that Alex meant to kill Jay and just did a crappy job (or he succeeded and Jay is a zombie or whatever), but I'm starting to think that killing them may not be part of the plan at all (at least for Tim and Jay- maybe TO singled them out from the rest of its victims for some reason).

My thought is, when Alex attacked Tim, why did he leave him alive and come back to finish him off later? Why not finish the job then and there? I suppose it could be because it was his first time (and we see in 49 he's learned his lesson), but then Tim ultimately ends up in the same room as Brian. And they're both in the room when Operator shows up. So whatever they did to Brian, they had Tim in their grasp as well- if they wanted to kill both of them, they probably could have done it. I doubt Tim could have escaped in his condition, and Brian found him seconds before TO arrived. The end of 51 seems to imply Brian didn't escape. Why would Tim be able to escape or get rescued by someone but not Brian? (Of course, if Brian and Tim both survived, that's different).

I don't know if that made any sense, but that was on my mind. Feel free to rip apart.

Also, yes, Alex did come for Tim with a gun in 67, so that might ruin that idea. But maybe the gun was less for Tim and more just in case someone like Hoody showed up (as he did)? Or maybe TO has already finished whatever he needed Tim for, and now he's just a liability?

Also, I find the idea that Jay has his own Masky persona completely plausible, mostly due to the Tweets that led up to enttry 37 and those that followed it suggesting that he was in some sort of blackout or trance when it was uploaded, so that fits together nicely in my opinion.

I don't know if he'd be the leader of TTA- it's possible that he is the one calling the shots and making the videos, but operates more in the shadows while Hoody and Masky do all the legwork. However, I always more assumed that Hoody's in charge and Jay's alter ego just helps him like Masky does, albeit probably in a different way- Masky acts as the muscle of the group, since we usually see him attacking people, while Jay does... something else. I guess that doesn't fit as well as the first possibility.

It's mainly the Tweetocalpyse _{(is that what it's called?)} that makes me think he has an alter ego at all, but since we've never seen a third masked figure, we have to also assume that if this were correct, his work is different in nature from Hoody and Masky.

Final dumb idea: Going off of what I said before, let's suppose the Operator does want Jay alive for some purpose or the other, and perhaps Tim as well. What if the reason Alex is trying to kill them both isn't because TO wanted it, but because TO didn't want it? Maybe he's trying to prevent Jay and/or Tim from being used by TO for something much worse? I don't know, with each passing entry I become more convinced that Alex isn't truly evil or helping TO entirely voluntarily.

Jesus, that was a long post.

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[SignerJ]

Oh, where to begin...

I like TomCat's theory on page 4 that Alex attacked Jay, put Jay in the car, drove Jay home, and then put Jay in his bed, leaving the tapes in the closet. It would explain why it took Jay three years to look at the tapes. And, as someone said earlier, people sometimes assume memories. Have you ever woken up to realize that your alarm clock is shut off and it is an hour later than you set it for, and you just assumed that you turned it off and went back to sleep? Jay could have assume that he himself home and put himself to sleep, and the head trauma caused by the hit could have caused him to forget the attack.
I'd suggest reading TomCat's theory on the bottom of Page 4, since I described it badly.



And then my second point. This theory kind of contradicts the first in some regards, and is a bit different, but I feel that it should be said. First of all, while I was not a supporter of the theory of Jay having multiple personality disorder (I'll call it MPD from now on), quite a few good arguments have been made supporting it. One of the better ones is that alternate personalities can form when someone is exposed to serious trauma -- such as a car crash, or your best friend trying to kill you. These personalities can sometimes save your life, and MLAnderson0 pulls this off very well. So I think it is quite possible that Jay has an alternate personality, and something that we should always keep in mind.

Now, with that said, here's a theory that was mentioned once and then ignored: what if Alex has a multiple personality as well? We know Tim has one, we suspect Jay has one, it has been suggested that Hoody is one... So why not Alex. In fact, considering that MPD can form when exposed to trauma, ask yourself this: Who experienced the most Operator-related trauma during the filming of Marble Hornets? Alex, of course. It would also explain why he does so many unusual things, such as attack Tim, trick Brian, suddenly go insane in this entry, and even stand around when the Operator appears. What if, just like Tim, Alex can't control his alternate personality?
And, I just thought of this: What if Alex started getting treatments for MPD when he moved in with Amy, and then stopped taking them after she disappeared?

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[hachiman]

[Marble Hornets]

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[Lithp]

[TheJoker]

My point was just that Jay already knows that he forgot a ton of stuff from 2006. The fact that he (and by extension Troy) felt the need to emphasize his false, constructed memory might imply that there was something more to it.

That said, I'm sorta just playing devil's advocate here. I agree that in all likelihood he just filled in the gaps himself.

And presumably he woke up at home, not in his car or a field. How did he end up there? I don't know, but he ended up back in his bed somehow after getting his memory wiped back in 52, too, so it's plausible that he somehow woke up back home after 71 as well. Perhaps even the same person/force was responsible.

_{Maybe the Operator is just polite enough to put people in their homes and tuck them in when it's done with them.}

[Sha Noran]

[Lithp]

I mentioned the possibility of 2 shadows, it seems to have gotten buried in the thread.

I'll have to rewatch that section as soon as possible.

[Coolbro Swaggins]

Wait, in the weird closeup at the 4:29 mark, does anybody else notice the face in the background is like the one in 22? The static style is even similar.

O_O