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konamouse
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I found a note from Dale about the safe code and saying he went down to Wes' shop to try an idea he was excited about. As soon as I get a chance, I'll try and either scan it or take a photograph of it so you can see what he left me, 'cause I don't know how to explain it.

Spec: We're going to get another visual clue

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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 10:41 am

grumpyboy
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maybe Dale will figure out the combo himself (i.e. PMs give up waiting for us to solve it) Wink

just dreaming here...

Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 10:47 am

greywolf
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email from Sam

I received the same email as Dashcat, addressed to someone else like Cemgate, think they made the same mistake twice?

edited for mistake

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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 10:55 am

Myssfitz
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Dale got the safe open!!

Ursulla:
Just a quick follow-up on last night's message. And it's actually good news for
a change! I heard from Dale last night. It took him a while to get in to Wes'
place because he was certain he saw people watching it. I think he may just be
a little paranoid after his last visit there. Anyway, he tried the new
combination ideas as explained in the note he left me (that's attached by the
way) and got the damn thing open finally. He called me shortly after he was
successful and said he found a notebook inside which must be the one Wes had
mentioned in his note to me. He said there were some other things inside too,
things he was just starting to check out and wanted to spend some time with. He
said he was going to stay there a while, because he's a little leery of
removing anything but the notebook from the safe. Wes' note did say to tale the
notebook, but be sure to look it up again because of what else was in there. So
Dale is thinking that Wes might not want anything else removed.
So, the good news is we finally have the notebook from the person who bought
the strange disc from Wes. Once Dale gets back here (no, he's not here yet)
I'll see what we can do with what he found as far as sharing it with you.
Sam

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Posted: Sun May 18, 2003 10:58 am

Myssfitz
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EMAIL: New one from Sam

Hi Ursulla:
A few people have written to me about the safe combo; it seems that in some
cases, the first e-mail I sent didn't have both pages of Dale's note attached
as I originally intended. Some people got it, others didn't. So to make it more
easily accessible to everyone, I've posted both pages to a secure directory on
the Aglaura web server. This isn't necessarily something we want just anyone to
see, so I figured I needed to put it into my personal directory to prevent
unwanted people from finding it. You can access the pages here:

http://www.aglauranj.org/sam/tempdatadn1.html and
http://www.aglauranj.org/sam/tempdatadn2.html

Here's the login info you need:
user: sgreene
password: passkey

Like I said, it's the two pages of the note Dale left me explaining how the
safe combo was solved. You know, I never asked him which one of the possible
combinations actually worked; it just didn't seem important to me after the
safe was opened, but I'm sure he could tell you. I know he is planning on
sending e-mails to everyone again soon, tonight or tomorrow, to discuss with
everyone what was in Wes' safe. I can tell you that he found a few interesting
things besides the notebook we were looking for, including one that has us both
scratching our heads.
Speaking of the notebook, there are quite a few pages to it that I'm going to
need to scan to get online somewhere. I'm still playing catch-up for my "real"
job since all the additional stuff I've had to do for the auction, but hope to
get started on scanning the notebook sometime soon.
I've also got a couple of other things to get posted that I promised people,
including the picture of Sarah Wyatt and some old map of this area that Mrs.
Dobbs wanted me to get posted for her.
I haven't heard anything else yet about Mrs.' Willingham's burglary and the
subsequent investigation. I guess no news is good news. I asked a couple of the
office workers that I'm friends with in the Police Department about it but
everyone's being pretty tight-lipped, I guess because of good old' Phyllis
putting my name on the possible suspect list. Her husband, Doug, made a point
to stop by and tell me that he doesn't really think I was involved and to
excuse his wife's understandably emotional state. That didn't really make me
feel any better though, because at the same time he was asking me again if I
had heard from Dale. Doug said they sent a registered letter to Dale's office
address and have been trying to call him there as well, as required for "formal
notification" of the special Council meeting tomorrow, but he just wanted to
make an "extra effort" to make sure Dale knew since he's such a "good friend."
Sorry for the excessive quotation marks but Doug's just the kind of guy whose
actions and words seem to warrant them, if you know what I mean.
OK I have to get back to work here. I've got a lot to get done. Keep an eye out
for a message from Dale in one form or another. He's still digesting some of
the stuff he found in Wes' safe and formulating his plans but I know he's
anxious to start making some progress again after that delay in figuring out
the safe combo.
I'll be in touch soon.
Sam

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Posted: Mon May 19, 2003 5:30 pm

dashcat
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Sam mail

Hi Lynn:
Well, so far, it hasn't been a very good day. I could tell as soon as I got to
work that the big guys - Pat and Doug - weren't in a very good mood. I don't
think they liked the fact that Dale totally blew them off about last night's
emergency Council meeting. From what I've been told, they ended suspending him
pending a final hearing at the next regularly scheduled Council meeting. But
even with that, like I said, they still were definitely upset. As soon as I got
there, I was told I was to report to the Mayor's office. That was about 8:45. I
spent the next hour or so being grilled by Pat and Doug Willingham about my
knowledge of Dale and his whereabouts. They asked me several times if he was
staying with me, as if they knew something but just couldn't quite prove it.
They even tried to use the burglary at the Hollow Needle against me. At one
point he said, "You know, Sam, this whole burglary incident still doesn't look
good for you. My wife is still very, very upset about it and is pushing for
someone to be arrested soon. Pat, why don't you tell Sam here what Chief
Prufrock said to you?"
"What? Oh, oh, yeah, right. I asked Dawn earlier today, Sam, 'If you had to
arrest someone right now for breaking into the Hollow Needle. who would it be?'
Do you know what she said Sam?" Mayor Dobbs looked at me as if I really would
say something like, "Who Mayor, who?" Instead, I asked them if I should call an
attorney before we went on, and they both quickly re-directed their
questioning. But they were definitely trying.
Like I said, it went on for over an hour. It almost seemed like they were
dragging it out, waiting for something to happen. And then the Mayor got a
phone call, and after a few brief words on the phone looked at me and said I
could leave. That was just about 10:05.
When I got back to my desk there was a phone message waiting for me. From the
Aglaura Police Department, informing me they were in the process of serving a
search warrant on my home and that I had fifteen minutes to get there if I
wanted to be present. The message was time stamped 8:50.
I rushed home to find the place empty, no sign of the Police or of Dale. I
guess the phone call the Mayor got was to let him know the cops were done here.
They actually broke the front door open and then left the damaged door hanging
open when they left. There was a copy of the search warrant sitting on table
inside, looking all legal and official. They didn't actually take much, even
though they messed up just about every room in one way or another. They did
take the computer from my office and some notes I had left sitting around from
things I've been researching.
Luckily, Dale and I had pretty much anticipated them doing something like this.
The computer they took was one I rarely use, and has absolutely no e-mail or
files about Dale or anything we've been doing. And the notes I purposely left
out are deliberate red herrings, designed to throw off anyone who might happen
to see under just these circumstances. Also, Dale's belongings were gone, but
he must not have had much time because he didn't leave the pre-arranged signal
we had discussed, to let me know he was getting out because someone was there,
trying to get in. In any case he did call later on and left a message, on my
cell phone to let me know he was OK and would be in touch later. Somehow he
managed to either get out before they got there or was already out before they
arrived. Anyway, he asked me to pass along this webpage where he posted the
notated copy he found in the safe of the mysterious manuscript page. I guess he
promised everyone he would post this but didn't get a chance to send a message
to let people know where it was.

http://www.synthasia.com/mspagenotated.htm

I'm going to be working on scanning the notebook pages from the guy who bought
Wes' disc tonight while I'm waiting to hear from Dale. If you hear anything,
please let me know right away. I'm going to be jumping on and offline using my
AIMname of "thesamgreene", hoping Dale might try to contact me that way too, so
if you see me on say "Hi."
You know, even though we were anticipating Pat and Doug possibly doing this to
me, searching my home, that is, it still really pisses me off. I mean, to have
people digging through my stuff when I'm not here really doesn't sit well with
me. And most of these damned guys, the police, are guys I work with on a daily
basis. How the hell am I ever supposed to deal with them in the same way again?
Sorry for the language but I'm just a little upset about this whole thing.

Sam

Posted: Wed May 21, 2003 9:04 pm

elderofzion
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Joined: 21 Jan 2003
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Location: Massachusetts

Info from Sam

After considering some of the inconsistencies between Wes' chat narrative of the events of May 1 and the info we had from the guides and Sam about the same night, I sent an email to Sam, Dale, and the guides seeking to alert them to the fact and to solicit their input. Sam's reply is certainly worthy of review, as he covers a couple of topics even beyond the scope of the initial mail -- If i get further responses from the others, I will let you know.

Damon,
I'm not sure I should be the one trying to answer your questions, because, admittedly, I have some second thoughts of my own about both Wes' disappearance and sudden re-appearance. Plus, I wasn't the one who chatted with him the other night. I do know Dale was convinced from the brief questions he asked "weirdwesk", but a couple people have raised the point that, if Wes has been taken by the Numbered Ones, would they have access somehow to his thoughts and memories? You know, in order to prepare whoever this "weirdwesk" is, if he's an imposter. I know, this all really sounds crazy when you put it down on paper, doesn't it? But anyway, there's a few things in your e-mail I may be able to clear up because of my involvement, while at the same time bringing up a couple of other points for you to think about.

I think I understand at least one aspect of what Wes is referring to about
this "belief" thing. When I think about, Wes said some similar things at times before when we were discussing everything that has happened, just not in such a direct way. In fact, I remember him teasing me once when we were talking, after all this started, and I was complaining in a joking manner that I hadn't gotten any graffiti or even messages from the "guides". Wes said, "You are beneath their notice" in this dead-pan serious sounding voice, and I started to laugh, because I thought he was kidding. Well, Wes didn't laugh, and it was one of those moments you with Wes every once in a while, where you seem to be talking different languages and something just isn't connecting. Or as if he knew
something and he was trying to get you to understand without really telling you.
Anyway, I now think he was talking then about this "belief" idea.
I've thought myself and even commented a few times how the "dead eyes" (or whatever you want to call them - I'm mixing myself up by calling them different names all the time! lol) and even the guides didn't really seem interested in me.
Now your question about their interest in Dale is another matter, one that I'm not sure I can explain. But, I can tell you that the other spots graffiti
appeared weren't just places where Dale went or stayed, but also places of possible other significance. Wes had been to many of those same places too; it's a small town plus he was checking out all these events involved in what Dale was going through. But even that, I don't think, explains all the locations. For example, the first one, the Library. If my memory is correct, that occurred while Dale was away in that Klepsydra place. Now he may and probably was in or near the Library some time in the weeks before that, but, I'm thinking it may have more to do with the old trunk that was found there and its contents. Or even the old cemetery that's there right behind it, where Sarah Wyatt's adoptive parents are supposedly buried. This whole town actually has an unusually high number of people who seem to believe in strange tales and legends, as Wes I think mentioned during the chat, probably because of its
history, so that complicates the whole "belief" concept as well.
My take on Wes' comment about the guides "inviting" him, in retrospect, is that he must be referring to some communication or contact between himself and the guides that we were unaware of. One of my overall impressions and concerns from the whole chat is that it seems certain that Wes has been less than honest with me (and you) about everything he knows. Maybe honest isn't the right word, maybe "complete" would be better, meaning he hasn't told us everything. I think that you or others out there may have been needed by the guides for one purpose (the wood) while their interest in Wes was entirely different. Due to circumstances of location and timing however, Wes managed to serve both purposes. When I think about how that whole thing went down, how Wes was insistent he was the one to go, it now makes sense that he wasn't going to take no for an answer because of whatever was going on I didn't know about. I think he had already had some form of private contact with the guides by then. That still doesn't explain why he wouldn't have told me in advance though, which, like I said, is one of the concerns I have about the whole Wes re-appearance and which also pisses me off.

Your questions about the night at Dale's house and what happened afterward are a little harder for me to try and answer, partially because I wasn't out there with them. From my understanding of what Wes has said about the night, I agree it seems that there was one guide and one "dead eye" there, so I can't explain what the guide meant by "greater force than anticipated", unless the force he's talking about isn't related to numbers or quantity of people. Or maybe he was saying "when I arrived . . . the one who was there" meaning only one was visible at first but there were actually more there, unseen in the beginning. I'm not really sure.

I also can't explain how Wes got away from the dead eye(s). I'm kind of
assuming from what the guides said afterwards that the one who there was focused on trying to help Dale at the time and weren't really certain of Wes' ultimate fate. Again, I'm going on memory and second-hand information since the guides have never contacted me, but I remember some people e-mailing me and saying that the guides post incident e-mail seemed to raise some question as to whether they thought the Numbered Ones had Wes or not.

As to where Wes was while he was missing, why he chose to deceive even us, and why he stole the manuscript page, those I can't answer. I'm not sure if the "hidden painting" played any part in his decisions at all though, because I don't think anyone (not just you) knew about that until Phyllis' impromptu statement about the burglary.
That's about all can address from your e-mail, but here's a couple of other things that have me concerned that you didn't mention.

The guide specifically said "the one you call 'Keeler'". Does that mean he has another name that the guide knows him by?

Wes' statements about Sarah Wyatt, her paintings, and the picture of her father looking like the guide confused me somewhat. It took me a while to realize that he must have been referring to whoever Sarah's "real" father was, because I know there are pictures of her adoptive father, Hamilton Wyatt, around. Wes seemed a little too familiar with parts of Sarah's story for someone who has told me a few times he didn't really know her well, if at all.

I'm also somewhat puzzled by Wes' dealings with Colin Penrose about the
manuscript page. I'm not sure what he thinks this guy might know or have that could help us.

Well, I have to get back to work. This got way too long. I did forward this to Dale in case you didn't send it to him. Maybe he can answer some more of your concerns. I didn't get to see "Wes" (if it is indeed him) before he took off where ever he was going but you can be sure I will be careful to verify it is him before I reveal too much to him.
Thanks for your detailed and thoughtful message.
Sam

Original mail follows (from Damon Walker, P.I)

Sam, Dale, and even you long-lost guides out there, because this concerns
> you as well:
>
> Wes has returned -- or has he? Certainly, the weirdwesk who appeared in
> Dale's chat appears to know what only Wes knows. I know that Dale was
> satisified of his bona fides, and you two know him far better than I or any
> of us outside investigators could. And yet we, as outsiders, have the
> opportunity to reflect on what people say at different junctures in this
> case, and the distance to notice when things don't appear to square up. Wes'
> story of what happened the night of May 1st was very, very incomplete,
> despite how long the chat dragged on. He never indicated how in fact he
> escaped from the DEGs at all. More importantly, several of the statements he
> did make appear to not square with A) the guides' account of the same
> events, and B) Sam's account to us of that night. Here are three instances I
> found:
>
> 1) Wes claims that the DEGs have primarily been concerned about him, not
> Dale, and others in town who believe. But this doesn't square with the fact
> that the DEGs were staking out Dale's office for weeks, and appear to have
> been traveling town to town in search of him while he was on the run (due to
> the appearance of DEG graffiti in places outside Aglaura where Dale stayed).
>
> 2) Wes says "I was invited there [to Dale's house on 5/1] by the guides --
> they made sure I was there." (this is, he alleges, because he is such a
> believer . . .).
>
> The guides mail to the InitiatesWhite (one of our groups, late afternoon of
> 5/1 -- "you, or one of the friends who aid, must bring us what we need to
> the appointed place at dusk tonight." So the guides would apparently been
> content if Sam, or Wes, or vikiyak (one of our investigators) showed up
> carrying the nine woods.
>
> Sam's mail to us, 6:45 that night -- 'Wes and I have discussed it, and
> decided that he's going to be the one who goes to Dale's home and meets the
> guides. . . First, he's absolutely insisting that he do it. . . He's
> actually excited to go out there and meet them, whoever or whatever they
> are. He almost seems to be five years younger since he found out there will
> be a 'guide' waiting there.
>
> 3) Wes stated in chat, 'when I arrived, the dead eye or numbered one [both
> cases, intentionally described in the singular] who was there went straight
> for me, even though Dale was already back there too.'
>
> >From the guides mail to all of us late on May 1 (after the event was over).
> 'The Numbered Ones knew where the fire would be lit and came sooner and with
> greater force than anticipated. Only the bravery and sacrifice of the one
> you call 'Keeler' allowed the sacred wood to be fully consumed in flame and
> the portal opened.' (unless the single DEG was unexpectedly powerful, how
> could one be greater force than anticipated? And yet the guides in the email
> mention that after Dale's return, 'the second ring will be summoned' If the
> portal isn't open yet, how can Dale already be back?)
>
> >From Sam's mail to us, 8:52 that night. 'A deep voice said 'Keeler'. Wes
> sounded surprised and said 'You? It's you?' The deep voice said 'We must
> hurry. Someone has told them where we are and they are coming . . . their
> time'. I heard Wes say 'You know I won't let . . . to him' (again, this
> seems to match the guide's description of events, not Wes).
>
>
> If Wes escapes, why did the guides fear he had been taken? Why do they still
> seem to think so over a week later, when digitalis emails Dale at Synthasia?
> Why does his cell phone go dead, or alternatively, why doesn't he call Sam
> to tell him what happened and that he's alright? Who is he hiding from for
> the three weeks between 5/1 and 5/22? If starting the search for the disk is
> so important, why doesn't he just tell us the safe code, instead of going
> thru the whole rubinechus runaround?
>
> Why does Wes decide to steal the manuscript page and the 'hidden painting'
> (the latter item of which quite frankly none of us even knew existed til
> after the fact)? Why wait two weeks til May 16th? Why is he dealing with
> Penrose, when the only real argument for stealing it would have been to make
> sure that the item didn't wound up in other hands if Phyllis sold it?
>
> Something smells rotten here. None of these remarks, taken individually,
> prove much -- memories are fleeting, particularly of events observed under
> stress. Nobody knows better than a detective who takes hundreds of witness
> statements a year how malleable 'facts' can be. But even if you see and
> confirm that it's Wes in the flesh, there may still be cause to wonder if
> only Wes is in there. I would be careful to let him back into the center of
> your plans until you have heard his whole story of that night, and decide
> how it holds up.
>
> Damon
>
> Damon Walker Investigations
>
> P.S. -- Hey, guides -- I'm not forgetting you in all this, either. If Wes'
> story on further inspection hangs together, then there's something equally
> suspicious about the tale you told us. If there's anything we ought to hear
> about May 1 and the ceremony that we haven't yet, perhaps it's time for you
> to come clean as well.

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Posted: Fri May 23, 2003 1:42 pm

Stevoid
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Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

New Sam e-mail

Subject: Under The Weather, received today at 19.30 GMT

Stevie,
I meant to write to everyone yesterday but I've been a little under the
weather. Nothing too serious I don't think, just a cold or a minor touch of the
flu so hopefully I'll be over it in a day or two. Just my luck to get sick over
a holiday weekend though. Oh well, at least the weather has been lousy here in
Jersey, nothing but rain and grey skies, so I haven't been missing a great
weekend or anything.
Scanning and posting the notebook is taking a little longer than anticipated
for a couple of reasons, not even counting me being sick. Mrs. Dobbs insisted I
get a few things ready for her that I've been promising and putting off. One of
them was an old map that someone wrote to her about and she promised quite a
while ago she would have posted. Well I finally got that up and online. There's
a few more things she has me working on too but that's the first one I've
gotten done.
I've had a little bit of trouble scanning the notebook pages themselves and
making decent image files from them also. They are handwritten and vary quite a
bit in lightness and darkness from page to page and even within some pages. I'm
trying to make sure everything is readable. With any luck, the pages should be
ready and up later today.
Dale has been working on a few things too. He was finally going to talk today
to the person he mentioned as a possible "partner" in dealing with both Don
Marzano and the Aglaura officials. He's running out of time because he's
scheduled to meet with Don sometime tomorrow. No further word from Wes yet.
Damn, I feel like . . . well, you get the idea. Got to lie down briefly before
getting back to work.
I'll be in touch.
Sam

Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 4:33 pm

Stevoid
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Location: Edinburgh, Scotland

BTW, the Aglaura site seems to be down again, so I can't find a link for that just now.

Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 4:37 pm

Myssfitz
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INFO: Map is online

The Map Sam was talking about is up.

http://www.aglauranj.org/oldmap.html

Map of Old Aglaura:

http://www.aglauranj.org/oldmap2.html

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Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 9:53 pm
Last edited by Myssfitz on Sun May 25, 2003 11:06 pm; edited 1 time in total

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grey wether are you grey or green

Stevoid wrote:

Pretty funny. Or does it mean something?

"Are you grey or green?...."

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Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 10:32 pm

Myssfitz
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Re: INFO: Map is online

Myssfitz wrote:

The Map Sam was talking about is up.

http://www.aglauranj.org/oldmap.html

Map of Old Aglaura:

http://www.aglauranj.org/oldmap2.html

Sorry to quote myself Smile

I found an old map of Burlington in 1797. Can't see it to well though. Maybe someone will be able to do something Question

I'm sure the Map that Sam posted is "in-game" and is probably not accurate to "real world" so my above reference probably has no relevance.

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Posted: Sun May 25, 2003 11:10 pm

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