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[Trailhead?] Strange letter and key
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DrTachyon
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I have some meta information that because of privacy reasons I'm loathe to share. While the letter has no return address it was sent registered so I know it came from North York Ontario Canada. There is a hand written address ( that is tough to make out) on the registered receipt, and it points to a street, but seeing as 1) I don't want to out the PMs address and 2) the info was derived not from the letter but from the metadata from the post office, I don't want to post it publically.

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Jane Smith
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Hello Smile I have wandered in after a few years away ;P


looking at your interesting key/ ideas and throwing straws in the air..weeeeeee!!!!

Archeology, yale symbol..ish.. Angled prong key? Maybe key is to a yale caterpillar forklift?

Not that that unlocks a website or helps, just getting it out of my head Smile
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Jane! Where have you been hiding?! Very Happy

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Jane Smith
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JumboTron wrote:
Jane! Where have you been hiding?! Very Happy


Peeks in Rock On

Oh you know..life its gets in the way of fun sometimes Razz
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Nice to have you back anyway... Love the vestigial tail! Elementary, my dear Jane! Very Happy

thebruce is a Torontonian as far as I know. As a local, perhaps he's received the same item.

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nighthawk1
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I reached out to a lock-picking forum and gave them a pic of the key. Got a bunch of replies but none of them have ever seen a key exactly like that, and these guys really know their stuff. so whatever it is, it's unique.

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jono
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I have seen smaller versions of that key, for a window lock called a Cotswold, it would open it from the inside, but that would make the tag an apartment address?


So we have the seal for Yale and the Seal for Oxford...lets contrast them.

Motto: Oxford- The Lord is my Light
Yale- Light and truth

Seals

Oxford: The 3 crowns origins are unknown, could link to various people being given them by various kings of England.

Yale- Unknown designer, book says Urim and Thummin but no one knows what this means and most just say it means Light and Truth which is now the official English motto.

I am going to be honest, its odd to see a university like seal on a form for a government department. I mean why would the phrase "Light and Truth" have meaning for an Agricultural Sciences department unless they function like the police in this universe?

I would note the Hebrew in the book is pretty damaged and it seems like it is different to the Hebrew on the Yale seal, most obviously because the lines are the same length when the top is longer on the Yale seal.

Now is the number 2270 14 or 2270.14 in which case could it be a library dewy decimal number?

Hmmm..so if the number is x= thing (source)

22.70 14= Administration of physical plant [Library Resources] (Dewey Decimal classifications]

227.014= The Bible, Book Epistles (Melvil Decimal Library System)
(Paul wrote 14 epistles in the bible all of these were on his travels)

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Amelić
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jono wrote:
I have seen smaller versions of that key, for a window lock called a Cotswold, it would open it from the inside, but that would make the tag an apartment address?


So we have the seal for Yale and the Seal for Oxford...lets contrast them.

Motto: Oxford- The Lord is my Light
Yale- Light and truth

Seals

Oxford: The 3 crowns origins are unknown, could link to various people being given them by various kings of England.

Yale- Unknown designer, book says Urim and Thummin but no one knows what this means and most just say it means Light and Truth which is now the official English motto.

I am going to be honest, its odd to see a university like seal on a form for a government department. I mean why would the phrase "Light and Truth" have meaning for an Agricultural Sciences department unless they function like the police in this universe?

I would note the Hebrew in the book is pretty damaged and it seems like it is different to the Hebrew on the Yale seal, most obviously because the lines are the same length when the top is longer on the Yale seal.

Now is the number 2270 14 or 2270.14 in which case could it be a library dewy decimal number?

Hmmm..so if the number is x= thing (source)

22.70 14= Administration of physical plant [Library Resources] (Dewey Decimal classifications]

227.014= The Bible, Book Epistles (Melvil Decimal Library System)
(Paul wrote 14 epistles in the bible all of these were on his travels)


The Hebrew is 100% different, in my post on the first page my friend who speaks Hebrew had a look at it Smile

DrTachyon wrote:
I have some meta information that because of privacy reasons I'm loathe to share. While the letter has no return address it was sent registered so I know it came from North York Ontario Canada. There is a hand written address ( that is tough to make out) on the registered receipt, and it points to a street, but seeing as 1) I don't want to out the PMs address and 2) the info was derived not from the letter but from the metadata from the post office, I don't want to post it publically.


I dont know why i feel overly suspicious of this arg, no offence to you - you are okay! Very Happy but usually i want every single trailhead to be "something" and something doesnt feel right with this one atm, maybe its just the start and we cant do anything yet?

Also have you signed up for anything recently? so we might have any lead at all

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Gently
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I dunno, Amelić, looking at the Yale seal book and this one, with some blurring (or ink running, or a bad photocopy) I think it could be a match.



But on your other point, I agree. There is precious little to go on here. The next logical step is to find the website mentioned and get cracking on that "security" (something we're good at!), but I don't see any obvious way to move forward.

Also, I checked with the sweet old men at the local hardware store, and they've never seen anything like that key, either. Confused

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Amelić
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Ah okays! i had not seen that version of the logo before, just this one below - which does not match

also just throwing it out there, yale is a brand of key :p infact my door key is a yale - and there is a oxford lock apparently.
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The book with hebrew writing seems to be a somewhat common theme in university coat of arms. Three crowns is less common. This could be the actual coat of arms for some universtiy somewhere. And the Department mentioned in the insignia could be a department at that university. Many universities have Departments of Agricultural Science. Just a theory. Could be a completely ficticious coat of arms but I'm getting red herring vibes from the letterhead. I know we don't have anything really to go on other than that. I just hope something else turns up because my curiosity is piqued.

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Question for OP
DrTachyon...tell me what you see in this inkblot

Just to clarify DrTachyon..

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They had no right to steal this from Andrew [my last name].


Do you mean its the same as your last name? Or you are not listing it as part of protection/pm ?

I only ask this as if we are tracking down a particular university site etc as in

http://archaeology.about.com/od/18511900/ A list of archeologists born from 1851-1900

we have one

•Andrew Ellicott Douglass (Lowell University)


And on this note...my old arg brain is spent Wink
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jono wrote:

227.014= The Bible, Book Epistles (Melvil Decimal Library System)
(Paul wrote 14 epistles in the bible all of these were on his travels)


I have a Bible if this becomes relevant (of course you could also look it up)

227014 is hex color green
http://www.colorhexa.com/227014

2270 14th Ave
Markham, ON L3R 0E4

comes up when you put E 2270.14 Toronto, ON into Google Maps
https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=2270.14&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&biw=1680&bih=949&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl

possibly related to the three crowns in the seal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Crowns
Three Crowns (Swedish: Tre Kronor) is a national emblem of Sweden, present in the Coat of Arms of the Realm of Sweden

overthinking ahead: there are three crowns, arranged in a triangle. The number three is sacred to occultists, and so is the triangle because it's used to represent three. The crowns could represent the crown chakra, which is ruled by Saturn. The crown chakra is about wisdom and being one with the world.

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Amelić
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Stroma wrote:
jono wrote:

227.014= The Bible, Book Epistles (Melvil Decimal Library System)
(Paul wrote 14 epistles in the bible all of these were on his travels)


I have a Bible if this becomes relevant (of course you could also look it up)

227014 is hex color green
http://www.colorhexa.com/227014

2270 14th Ave
Markham, ON L3R 0E4

comes up when you put E 2270.14 Toronto, ON into Google Maps
https://maps.google.ca/maps?q=2270.14&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&biw=1680&bih=949&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hl=en&sa=N&tab=wl

possibly related to the three crowns in the seal:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Crowns
Three Crowns (Swedish: Tre Kronor) is a national emblem of Sweden, present in the Coat of Arms of the Realm of Sweden

overthinking ahead: there are three crowns, arranged in a triangle. The number three is sacred to occultists, and so is the triangle because it's used to represent three. The crowns could represent the crown chakra, which is ruled by Saturn. The crown chakra is about wisdom and being one with the world.


if you put the address straight into google maps street view :
2270 14th Ave
Markham, ON L3R 0E4

It looks like it was some kind of building site, even more so if you pan to the left a bit
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DrTachyon
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Re: Question for OP
DrTachyon...tell me what you see in this inkblot

[quote="Jane Smith"]Just to clarify DrTachyon..

Quote:
They had no right to steal this from Andrew [my last name].


Do you mean its the same as your last name? Or you are not listing it as part of protection/pm ?

I mean that it is my real last name. Evidently the note suggests that my "ancestor" Andrew had his door kicked in and something stolen from him over a hundred years ago.

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