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Should I give HM another chance? 30-50 killed it for me.
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Geneaux486
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 		It is kinda funny when you simplify it. "You still like this show? You must not be as big a fan of it as I am."

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paladin181
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Geneaux486 wrote:
It is kinda funny when you simplify it. "You still like this show? You must not be as big a fan of it as I am."
lol.

I honestly can't say why I keep watching at this point. I like the show. I like... parts of it. I get baffled at missed opportunities to hit a homerun. I question the great set-up when it leads to an anti-climactic follow through. I get such high hopes for entries that something is going to happen, but it doesn't, or things turn out to be so... lack-luster (I'm looking at you, redacted medical documents). You just think that for all the trouble they go through that eventually ONE of these misadventures will lead to a big reveal, only to find out it takes you to a non-reveal, or the reveal is so minor as to not even be notable.

I want to see where it goes, but my attitude now is entirely different than it was in Season 1. I just want it to end now, as opposed to eagerly awaiting the next entry. It's almost work to check the pages for updates when I know they're not going to pay off.

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CraicIsMighty
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 		You know, I never really found TribeTwelve very scary at all. In fact, I thought S1 and S2 of Marble Hornets were way scarier. It could be that MH desensitized me to slenderman since I watched it first, but i don't know. Slenderman seems to take the back seat to the Observer in TT and I never really found the Observer to be very scary at all. He has a cool design and he's an interesting character but not scary, not to me anyway.

Anyway I'm not really a big fan of horror anyway so I kind of like the fact that MH is more heavily slanted towards Mystery. It's just getting frustrating that Season 3 seems to be dragging its heels when it comes to getting closer to solving that mystery.

Also, I'm sorry if it seemed like I was implying that anyone who likes S3 isn't a real fan. That wasn't what I was trying to say at all.

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Lithp
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 		I'm pretty sure that 52 is THE major reveal of Season 2. So there's that. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I would say that if you are still disinterested after THAT reveal, you probably shouldn't bother. It's tough to say, because your criticisms are so nebulous, but I'm not sure what would scream "plot" more than...you know.

PostPosted: Thu May 23, 2013 11:24 pm
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Ztakk
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 		Of course you should give it another chance. To me, you can't give a cohesive opinion on a series until you've watched a large majority of it (I'd have friends who would tell me they didn't like something I suggested and they had only watched a small portion of it).

If you're looking for horror aspects, then no don't try it. The series isn't horror [anymore] no matter what anyone says. There's been no scares (jump scares or otherwise). To me the series has morphed from a creepy/slightly scary series to a mystery. If mysteries aren't your thing then again, go find something else.

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Lithp
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 		50 episodes IS a sizable portion. Besides, I would rail against that concept. All you really need is a sample that is representative of the whole. Introducing yourself to everything by obtaining "a large majority" is kind of unrealistic, especially when you don't know the ultimate size that you're going to be measuring by.

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 		OP, if nothing else, at least watch the last two entries in season 2. 51 and 52 are kinda a big deal. After that, you can drop if you want.

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Ristar
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twistedpuppet wrote:
OP, if nothing else, at least watch the last two entries in season 2. 51 and 52 are kinda a big deal. After that, you can drop if you want.


You can skip all of S2, watch 52 and you can pretty much understand what happened since Jay explains it all.

It was entry #53 when i started watching the series and i got so into it that i watched S1 and S2, where the entries were being posted at a reasonable pace (At least it seems it was being at a fast pace). Thing is when people were watching S2 from the start they got really dragged into it and both Jay and TTA responses were pretty quick so they didnt get bored. S3 spits out a couple of entries that raises question then a GREAT one, then a month waiting then 2 more that raises questions, I DO LIKE what we got, even if it raises more question it did answer many.

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 		Well, if you didn't like it by 50, then while I'd recommend giving 51 and 52 a chance just the same, you're probably not going to like anything since.

Lithp wrote:
50 episodes IS a sizable portion. Besides, I would rail against that concept. All you really need is a sample that is representative of the whole. Introducing yourself to everything by obtaining "a large majority" is kind of unrealistic, especially when you don't know the ultimate size that you're going to be measuring by.


Agreed, though where that representative sample actually is can kinda vary depending on what series we're talking about. In the case of MH, while I think 50 is a bit much for "introducing yourself", I'd say you'd need to watch until at least #17 before you could really pass judgement because so many of the early entries are short and more scare-based than plot-based. The story starts to develop into the more mystery-driven format only in the latter half of Season 1 (in my opinion, where it gets really good.)

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 		To paraphrase Kyle Newman, if you don't like more than half of something, then you've given a failing grade and are not actually a fan.

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Lithp
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TheJoker wrote:
Well, if you didn't like it by 50, then while I'd recommend giving 51 and 52 a chance just the same, you're probably not going to like anything since.

Lithp wrote:
50 episodes IS a sizable portion. Besides, I would rail against that concept. All you really need is a sample that is representative of the whole. Introducing yourself to everything by obtaining "a large majority" is kind of unrealistic, especially when you don't know the ultimate size that you're going to be measuring by.


Agreed, though where that representative sample actually is can kinda vary depending on what series we're talking about. In the case of MH, while I think 50 is a bit much for "introducing yourself", I'd say you'd need to watch until at least #17 before you could really pass judgement because so many of the early entries are short and more scare-based than plot-based. The story starts to develop into the more mystery-driven format only in the latter half of Season 1 (in my opinion, where it gets really good.)


Yeah, my advice is easier to give than it is to follow, at times. I'm still not sure exactly how I feel about Marble Hornets, & I'm 71 Entries & Vishnu knows how many ToTheArks in! For the sake of the argument, let's just say that I'm a fan.

50 IS a bit much for an "introduction," but if he's considering giving it another go, that makes it even more difficult. Like I said, the best advice I can give, based on his complaints, is to watch 52 & decide after that.

For what it is worth, I was considering dropping until 52, myself.

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Xman
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 		The fact that you were skimming through some entries is kind of odd to me. That's just...not something you do when watching Marble Hornets.

And I don't see why you shouldn't give MH another chance. What do you have to lose? If you're looking for something to watch or whatever, just throw it on and watch it from time to time. It's not like it's an ex-girlfriend or something. It's a web series with videos ranging from 5 - 15 minutes each.

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sentient_boulder
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 		If you treat Marblehornets as a casual interest you'll enjoy much more. It's an amateur production. It's slow paced. The story has more frayed ends than a counterfeit T-shirt. There's almost no conceivable way of satisfying the majority of its fans. But you know what? Its only 10 minutes out of your life every two or so weeks, so no biggie. There's plenty of gold here and there to keep me watching.

Definitely lost most of its scare factor though which is probably what drew you into S1 so much. If you don't like it then you don't. That's compeltely understandable and 50-70 probably won't convince you otherwise.

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Xman wrote:
The fact that you were skimming through some entries is kind of odd to me. That's just...not something you do when watching Marble Hornets.

And I don't see why you shouldn't give MH another chance. What do you have to lose? If you're looking for something to watch or whatever, just throw it on and watch it from time to time. It's not like it's an ex-girlfriend or something. It's a web series with videos ranging from 5 - 15 minutes each.

Agreed. I don't know how much skimming OP actually did, but it seems to me that if you're trying to decide whether you like something, you should actually watch it. I mean, if you decide it sucks and drop the whole thing, that's one thing, but if you're going to continue to watch the series, then don't skip parts because

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it seemed the episodes were 80% walking, 15% boring dialogue that didn't progress the plot at all, and 5% useful dialogue, or actually relevant events/sightings


"Seemed"? How can you actually be sure if the dialogue was relevant if you skipped it? You can't tell what they're saying if you're forwarding, maybe they were saying something important while they were doing that 80% walking. I mean, maybe you're right and you skipped only the irrelevant parts, but if you're potentially skipping critical plot points, well, that's certainly not going to help your chances of actually enjoying the series.

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 		If you're skipping scenes, Marble Hornets isn't for you. I'd say if you're that bored, just stop watching.

Keep in mind season 1's production quality is significantly lower than season 2 or 3, and it doesn't really pick up until entry 23 or so

"but why should i watch 24 entries before it gets good, thats a waste of time" - lots of shows that end up great have horrible first and/or second seasons (six feet under, for example)

But if you still want to watch it and just have no problem skipping scenes, I'd say just watch the introduction + entry 23, and then skip straigh to entry 26. Season 2 (entries 27-52) is miles better than 1, and feels more like a standalone movie in a way. Lots of entries from season 1 can be skipped and you can still get a full understanding of what's going on.

in fact, here, i'll summarize everything for you (post introduction) up until entry 26 if you're still too lazy

Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Jay (narrator) watches the tapes and finds out Alex was being stalked by the operator (aka the slender man) throughout production of the movie. he interviews one of the cast members in present day, who has no idea where alex is either. later that night he gets an anonymous call letting him know where one of the other cast members may be.

he goes to the house and doesn't find the cast member, but finds an item that ends up leading him to a structure in a nearby forest where he finds a tape. on that tape is footage that insinuates that the operator "took" the cameraman of the film. jay goes back to the house and finds a masked man (who he gets into a fight with) and jay blacks out before he can escape, and wakes up the next day in his house.

he goes back to the house later and ends up in the same basement that the cameraman was "taken" in, and encounters the operator firsthand. blacks out again and vows to cease his investigation. he panicks and moves out of his apartment. one day shortly after, his old apartment is burned down, and at this point jay knows he can't just stop the investigation.

shortly after this he gets a tape in the mail, and that's where entry 26 starts


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