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[VIDEO] Entry #72
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elford
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 		I am pretty sure we all noticed by now that The Operator feeds on memories, but they are only the memories that have been recorded to tape. Hence Alex's trepidation when Amy starts filming. He was trying to protect their lives, which exist in memories. If memories stay in your head, the Operator can't get them.

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Geneaux486
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nikiudel wrote:
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When TO turns his head at 12:04, a face appears on it.

ooh, scary


I noticed that to, though I thought it was just eyes. I'm gonna go ahead and assume that this was intentional, because the idea of that thing forming facial features at will is creepy.

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SignerJ
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 		Ok, for once I took notes as I read through this thread, so I actually have a basic idea for what I want to say.

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The preliminary entry-reaction things:

-First of all, I had to pause the video around the 25 second mark. Couldn't stop laughing because of this.
Spoiler (Rollover to View):
Oh, MarbleBumblebee. Still accurate and funny as heck, even if it is over a year old.


-Next, did anyone notice that the Operator's arms moved in the confrontation? It scared the stuffing out of me. Made the scene much scarier. That, and the head moving.

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And now, for the important stuff:

-As everyone has said, time travel/time shifting has now been proven to be real. This changes quite a few things about the earlier entries. Maybe we missed other instances of time shifting because we were automatically dismissing the possibility of time travel?

-It seems that the names crossed out on the papers are the names of all of the people who Alex listed as "gone."

-Since we finally get to see Alex's house, would anyone be willing to go through this video and the important ones from Season 1 and identify which rooms they were filmed in?

-It's only been mentioned by one other person, but I think that the papers were planted. They were just too conveniently located. Alex was pretty careful in cleaning up, and we haven't found any other of his "pages". So why would we find these, in a house he's already left, years after he moved out? In an empty closet, nonetheless? And, more so, in plain sight? Neatly stacked on top of each other? Just at eye level? Everything in the situation seems to point to the papers being put there so that Jay and Tim would find them. It's not the first time someone (Hoody) has left things for Jay to find, after all. And it's not that big of a leap to speculate that someone (Hoody) knew that Jay and Tim would visit the house eventually. It was inevitable, after all.


-The hallucinations. This is the second time that we have caught Jay on camera hallucinating, and who knows how many times he's experienced it off-camera. And, yes, he actually did hallucinate. Even if the Operator could pick and choose who sees him and who doesn't (I think that the "mental filter" theory is better, but whatever), we know for a fact that the camera would catch the Operator is he were to appear. And guess what? The camera shows that nothing was in the field. The camera proves that nothing was in the field. Thus, Jay did hallucinate. Which brings me into my next point:

-The hallucinations are part of the sickness. Tim even said that he started off with hallucinations. We know that he experienced hallucinations in the institution. And now Jay is experiencing them. Jay might be starting to succumb to the sickness, and, if he doesn't get medical help fast, may develop an alternate personality of his own. (I don't think that he has already, because we know that the personalities surface in response to the Operator's proximity, and Jay has held it together so far.)

-However, no one seems to have noted that, what if Alex is victim to the same thing? Now that we know that Tim's affliction is caused by the Operator, what if Alex is afflicted by the same sickness? It makes sense. Alex was the one most exposed to the Operator, and most directly, during the filming of Marble Hornets. What if Alex has a separate personality of his own? It would explain his attacks on Tim, Brian, Jay, and everyone else. It would explain why he thought that everyone was "gone." And, Alex wouldn't have known about the sickness (since Tim wasn't talking), so he would have had no defense at all. Alex having an alternate personality explains a lot -- more than I can include here right now, seeing as this post already is pretty long.

-I'd like the acknowledge that someone attributed Alex's attack on Bruce to hallucinations, though I think that the alternate personality theory fits a bit better.

-Tim took his pills immediately after encountering the Operator, the moment he began having a coughing fit. He most certainly recognized the symptoms, and realized what was happening. If you look through the video, you might see something: Tim runs, Jay disappears, Tim gets safe, Tim takes his pills, Tim looks for Jay. Notice something? Tim keeps running so that he won't have a relapse, so that he can have time to take his pills. He knows that he's useless to Jay as Masky, if not outright dangerous.

-And then the pills help at the end, with the confrontation. I think that, yes, the Operator forced Tim to walk towards It. However, it seems that Tim was fighting the Operator's influence, and almost certainly trying to stop Masky from taking over. That explains the slight limp.
Even better, Tim wins, at the end. He stops in front of the Operator and stands in an act of defiance, trying to attack. Tim's Will won the fight -- in no small part, I think, to the pills (though Tim does seem to be getting stronger as time progresses). He eventually ends up collapsing, though, because of the Operator's influence, because, as we all know, Tim can't win.

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And finally, crazy theory time:

Did anyone notice how Tim seemed to be completely focused on blaming Alex? And then sympathizing with Jay? It's been pointed out that Tim was a bit quick in correcting Jay about where to put the papers... Tim was acting a bit weird and secretive the entire time. Maybe we're actually looking at the wrong person? What if Tim is actually manipulating everyone, or at least Jay? What if Tim is working together with Hoody to control Jay and prevent Jay from teaming up with Alex? That's why Tim didn't attack Hoody in the hospital -- he never wanted to. What if Alex is actually a victim, and knows what is going on, and could help Jay out, but Tim and Hoody keep trying to portray Alex as a bad guy and prevent Alex from teaming with Jay? What if that is why Tim keeps insisting that they run from Alex?

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For the record, that theory is complete bull and should not be considered seriously at all. I'm just joking.



Wow, sorry that this post is so long!![/spoiler][/url]

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pootis
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 		Wait, totheark is looking for the "ark" They found them! I smell a new totheark response.

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Geneaux486
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 		One minor detail, the time shifting wasn't *just* proven real in this entry, it was shown to happen in Entry 23, making this at least the second time such an instance has occurred.

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borisfr
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 		Hi everyone, I just suscribed to post this. I analyzed the audio with audacity, I found nothing particular with the spectrogram (no hidden message), but I managed to reduce the noise from the part from 11:50 to 12:29 where there is static.

Here are my results (it's on Drive) : http://bit.ly/11aQ6Km
There is an extract with noise (the original), one without noise (I used audacity effect), and at x3, x6, x10 speed extracts. You can here really strange noises on each of them, heavy breathing, "monster sound", someone struggling on the 6x ... I can't figure which version is the good one but there is definitely somthing odd... There might be some information (but I don't know how to decode it).

EDIT : https://docs.google.com/file/d/0B4K2A5gfcdVrZXNZQ3hoUHl6UTg/edit?pli=1 noise removed (interesting part starts at 12 seconds)

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Geneaux486
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 		During the Operator's final appearance, the distortion almost sounds like a melody to me.

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undervattensflugan
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SignerJ wrote:

-The hallucinations are part of the sickness. Tim even said that he started off with hallucinations. We know that he experienced hallucinations in the institution. And now Jay is experiencing them. Jay might be starting to succumb to the sickness, and, if he doesn't get medical help fast, may develop an alternate personality of his own. (I don't think that he has already, because we know that the personalities surface in response to the Operator's proximity, and Jay has held it together so far.)

-However, no one seems to have noted that, what if Alex is victim to the same thing? Now that we know that Tim's affliction is caused by the Operator, what if Alex is afflicted by the same sickness? It makes sense. Alex was the one most exposed to the Operator, and most directly, during the filming of Marble Hornets. What if Alex has a separate personality of his own? It would explain his attacks on Tim, Brian, Jay, and everyone else. It would explain why he thought that everyone was "gone." And, Alex wouldn't have known about the sickness (since Tim wasn't talking), so he would have had no defense at all. Alex having an alternate personality explains a lot -- more than I can include here right now, seeing as this post already is pretty long.

-I'd like the acknowledge that someone attributed Alex's attack on Bruce to hallucinations, though I think that the alternate personality theory fits a bit better.


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I'm glad someone brought up Alex having multiple personalites again! We talked about that after entry 71, too, and I think that it makes a lot of sense.

It's pretty likely that Jay actually was hallucinating, and that we are about to see his breakdown soon.

I also believe that Tim didn't walk up to TO to defend Jay (as some Jam-shippers want to believe) but that he was "dragged" towards TO or Masky walked there. That is why he isn't walking straight - he's fighting it. When he comes up to TO, he manages to stop, and that is why he's shaking, because it takes alot of power to stand still when TO is dragging you towards him. He's not trying to fight TO or anything, cause we've seen that it doesn't work.

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The Condor
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 		I don't entirely understand why they couldn't continue searching the house...
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wassupbro
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pootis wrote:
Wait, totheark is looking for the "ark" They found them! I smell a new totheark response.



What do you mean? Who found what? Do you even know what the ark is? As far as I know nobody else is sure yet.

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 		Looking back, I don't think that Tim made a bargain with TO. Tim was aware of the camera recording and he is also aware that Jay would probably investigate it assuming the chest cam is still functional.

I also believe that Tim's insistence on the notes in the top pocket is a memory precaution in case they get separated and Tim didn't have access to the tape recording the house investigation. Kinda like when Jay gave a special label to Alex's tape he stole a while back.

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The Condor wrote:
I don't entirely understand why they couldn't continue searching the house...


Because they were just attacked by some supernatural entity? And were scared stiff? And Jay could barely walk?

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Teedub
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SignerJ wrote:
The Condor wrote:
I don't entirely understand why they couldn't continue searching the house...


Because they were just attacked by some supernatural entity? And were scared stiff? And Jay could barely walk?


Apparently he could barely even think straight.

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 		I wonder if the closet and basement were "doors unopened" referenced back in the TTA video Admission. Looking back, it appears that entry was taped in J's apartment.

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 		Assuming Hoody isn't present in the entry and he didn't leave the notes (I believe he was around and that he did leave the notes), it'd be amusing if Tim and Jay indirectly manipulated Hoody into investigating the attic.

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