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Seth is Hoody
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pestoner wrote:

Having an Avatar that makes me want to punch your face

Why, what's wrong with the dude's avatar? Tom Cruise is a good actor, even if he's completely insane.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:00 am

ToTheAlex
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Craig Digsby wrote:

I've been a lurker for years now. Finally made an account to respond to your post.

We shouldn't assume Brian is dead just because we saw his body being dragged away. He could have been passed out. We never actually saw him die. In Entry #71, we saw Jay lying motionless in the grass. Did that mean he was dead? No.

And I don't think Hoody is Seth, either. It's clear at this point that he isn't Jay, Tim or Alex. I vote for Brian as Hoody.

Brian is more important to the series than Seth. If Seth is Hoody, his character would have been given more development and screen time. Seth has been in three entries, his screen time adding up to a grand total of 32 seconds. Brian has been in three entries as well, but his screen time exceeds Seth's by a milestone. Some Marble Hornets followers don't even remember who Seth is.

So I think Hoody is far more likely to be Brian than Seth.
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I see your argument for Brian, but there are also a few holes. Since he was actually a cameraman/editor, he shouldn't have really had that much screen time in the first place, whereas Brian was an actual actor in the film. Just because people don't remember him doesn't necessarily mean he couldn't be Hoody. The same logic could actually be applied to support Hoody being Seth: who better to be a mysterious masked character than someone we know little about and had just as much access to the original tapes as Alex. I also don't think Brian's acting chops in Marble Hornets helps his credibility.

On a side note, I couldn't stop laughing for at least a few minutes straight at your avatar and the quote. THAC all the way

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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:00 am

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Re: Seth is Hoody
My evidence for the theory that Hoody's identity is Seth.

ScorpiusPro13 wrote:

Also notice how no long hair falls down to the shoulders after the mask is lifted off.

So this rules out Amy/Jessica/Sarah.

They could have easily shaved their hair off. Just saying.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:12 am

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Before replying again:

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Troy has mentioned that Hoody is played by different people

This means, absolutely no pshysical structure or factions are taken in account, this includes hair, length, hight, weight, size of hands, etc.

Please people, half of you are trying to guess who Hoody is based on how he might look, we are trying to figuer it out by the evidence of his actions.

Now what i will say is that things like a particular piece of clothing or some special way of walking or acting is taken in account since that is the same way we revealed that Tim was Masky. (Hair could be taken in account too but, shit you not, Hoody wears a hood).

I think best theories are the people who think Hoody is the one in the picture that flashes when Hoody drinks off his bottle. The other one is the one that claims that Hoody is Jay after being broken by the slender sickness.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:29 am

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ToTheAlex wrote:

When people say Brian is more likely than Seth, it's usually because we're looking at things from an OOG, writer's standpoint. While I don't entirely oppose the idea of it being Seth, the problem is that he was so insignificant a character that most viewers probably forgot he existed soon after his first appearance, and making him Hoody would very likely end up being a poorly written twist as such. See http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/TheDogWasTheMastermind . While this kind of thing can work occasionally, in my experience it tends to be a lazy twist based on shock value rather than a clever one.

So yeah. Basically, my point is that Brian is more likely from a storytelling standpoint because during his limited screentime, he was a prominent character, and moreover, he has been referenced and discussed by other characters in other entries (Jay talked more about his "death" at Alex's hands than Seth's, Tim has repeatedly talked about being friends with him, etc.) Doesn't mean it couldn't be Seth- indeed, from a purely IG standpoint, you could reasonably argue that Seth is equally likely to Brian or moreso. But if, in the next entry, Seth was revealed to be Hoody, it probably wouldn't work well, because outside of this forum where we all discuss Seth regularly, most viewers would probably just be saying, "Wait, who?"

That said, I personally think Seth being Hoody wouldn't be a bad idea, for a number of different reasons, but I think it's unlikely based on how things have played out so far. If, however, Trosephim decide to spend a few entries building up Seth's character as more prominent before the reveal, then it could maybe work. But Brian is the most likely candidate (keep in mind we never actually confirmed he was dead and not just unconscious in 51), and the only other real possibility would probably be Jessica if only because she was a prominent character (and there's plenty of evidence against her by this point, particularly from TTA's Surveillance. But that's another discussion entirely.)

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 11:56 am

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ToTheAlex wrote:

Except your logic doesn't actually track. Whether you realise it or not, you are assuming the hypothesis is true to justify your evidence. Your theory breaks down to, "Given Seth is Hoody, it makes sense that he was not included in the behind-the-scenes footage on the out-of-game basis that the true identity of Hoody would be more mysterious," rather than using evidence to support the hypothesis, e.g., "Brian was featured more prominently in the documentation footage, therefore meta-game logic indicates he is a strong candidate," or "Brian was one of the main actors in the film, therefore in-game logic indicates that he was a prime target for whatever affected Alex and Tim."

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:07 pm

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wassupbro wrote:

pestoner wrote:

Magyk wrote:

hoody clearly played by brian in some entries.

i dont think Brian is a regular actor in this series because hes not availabe all of the time,afaik.and they wouldnt call him over from somewhere just to act as a Person with no real identity and face.if you look closely,youll see theres a real skinny hoody and a rather built hoody in appearance,which should give you a hint about how many damns they gave about hoody being just one actor Wink

Yet you say seth is because he has been in 1 entry?

Fist lets think about it with the story alone.

Tim and Brian are known to have the same thing happen to them from Alex. Why would Brian not react similarly? They both were "taken out" in that hospital. Thus they both wore a mask thing and began with there schemes.

Now lets think about the way the series has been shot. Midway through season 2, Hoody is introduced. At the end of season 2, we see what happened to Brian. If there is one thing you learn from watching films, its that every unique peice of shooting is significant. Troy wouldn't just throw in the fact that, oh yea, Brian had this whole ordeal happen to him. I think its pretty obvious that Brian was shown to have this situation occur to show that Brian is in fact Hoody

Seth has been in 3 entries (9, 22, 54), and probably was the cameraman in a few more of them that we didn't see. Plus your argument is irrelevant because we've seen Seth's sacrifice before Brians (time that hoody appears is also irrelevant since we know he was around in season 1 just not visible), and Seth would fit that same reaction you say Brian would have to being sacrificed

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:22 pm

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Another reason I think it's Seth: he's the cameraman, and they've hinted their fair share about cameras being important to the series. Didn't, in entry 54, Tim refer to hismelf as "the guy behind the guy with the camera" or whatever? Would make the alliance between Masky and Hoody more symbolic

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:27 pm

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Marble Hornets wrote:

Several people support the theory that Hoody/TTA is Seth with the fact that Seth was the cameraman for Marble Hornets. Seth would have access to footage Alex hadn't originally given to Jay. He could be involved with TTA and since he was a cameraman he would have the skills to pull off the effects used in TTA's videos.
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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 3:36 pm

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How about this theory: TTA is a two-man operation with Brian doing the fieldwork and Seth providing video editing. This sort of fits with the first season when TTA first came about early on in season 1 as well as the evidence in season 2 of Brian's involvement. Jessica is most likely in Alex's lair or something like the "Ark" or whatever. I'm also afraid Jay will soon become the old Tim. Feels like we're closer to the end now.

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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:35 pm

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ToTheAlex wrote:

How about this theory: TTA is a two-man operation with Brian doing the fieldwork and Seth providing video editing.

Jay has suspected that ToTheArk consists of more than one person.

http://twitter.com/marblehornets/status/89371832247005184

ToTheAlex wrote:

I'm also afraid Jay will soon become the old Tim.

That's been hinted at in recent entries/tweets. In Entry #69, Jay is constantly looking around, clearly worried that they are being followed. Then he hallucinates seeing people in the woods. In Entry #72, Tim urges Jay to see a doctor after he "hallucinates" seeing the Operator in the tall grass. And this tweet:

https://twitter.com/marblehornets/status/351904779246641152

"He's [Jay] been kind of out of it ever since we got away from that house."

I have a feeling this is foreboding to something that will happen in the near future. He's slowly but surely losing it as TO's hold on him grows stronger. He might very well become the next Masky. Shocked

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Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 4:58 pm

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Craig Digsby wrote:

I have a feeling this is foreboding to something that will happen in the near future. He's slowly but surely losing it as TO's hold on him grows stronger. He might very well become the next Masky. Shocked

Or worse, the next Alex.

Posted: Thu Jul 04, 2013 8:04 pm

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paladin181 wrote:

Craig Digsby wrote:

Or worse, the next Alex.

~~Or worst of all, the next Sarah.~~

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 12:44 pm

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TheJoker wrote:

paladin181 wrote:

Craig Digsby wrote:

Or worse, the next Alex.

~~Or worst of all, the next Sarah.~~

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Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 8:56 pm

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If Jay starts to bite his lip...we'll know he's the next Jessica for sure.

Posted: Fri Jul 05, 2013 10:39 pm

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