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MC_Loki
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Bernie Buddy wrote:
Zarggg wrote:
After reading the thread and thinking about it more, I agree that the house is Tim's and that was Jay coming out of the attic and looking out the window.

The silhouette at the window appears to have a baseball cap on. Jay is the only character in the series who has worn them regularly.


I don't see any baseball cap or anything remotely resembling one?


I don't see the cap either, but it's clear Alex has filled out as the series progressed. Jay's stayed relatively the same build. The figure in the window looks too thin to be Alex.

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Another possible interpretation for the LIAR text appearing could be that Hoody is attempting to frame Tim (or whoever's tape it is implied to be). I say Tim because it is almost certainly his house, and he's been called a Liar before.

Also, it would explain Hoody's motivation for uploading this video that is more consistent with his character development thus far: he's still trying to control and manipulate the situation. Whether it be through creating sympathy for himself in the hopes that Jay and Tim return with meds, or by planting doubt in Jay's mind about Tim.

I think the appearance of the word LIAR changed the tone of this entry significantly.

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FalloutGhoul wrote:
Slendermau5 wrote:
Sorry if this has been brought up before (can't be fucked to look through 8 pages of text) but
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that definitely sounded like a man coughing. Which pretty much confirms that Hoody is male.

At some point during the video, after Hoody heard someone else in the building,
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I swore I heard Hoody say "shit...".

I just thought I'd bring this back up.
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Looooooooong time lurker, first time poster...

Looking over this entry again, there are a few things that I'm thinking:

1. Hoody's a dude, which for me narrows it down to either Seth or Brian (leaning towards Brian, but not dead set yet)

2. Watching Entry 61, that's definitely Tim's house.

3. I think that's Jay in the window. I don't have the screencaps for it, but pause at around 9:02 when Hoody starts to duck behind the bushes while the camera is still focused on the house. The head shape screams "JAY!" to me.

4. This leads to my thoughts regarding the tape and LIAR... someone is hiding something from someone else. I have two theories:

A) That Tim is hiding a tape from Jay or vice versa,
or
B) The two of them, together, are hiding evidence from us, the viewing populace. Remember, this is on YouTube. Jay and Tim know they have an audience, and I'm guessing Hoody does too. Could there be a chance that one of these tapes implicates one or both of them, and they're BOTH hiding it from us?

Long story short, at least one of Jay or Tim is the target of the "LIAR" accusation, and not for unwarranted reasons. Hoody's trying to expose one of them to the other, but he knows he is exposing one (or BOTH) of them to the other party that matters in all of this, and the one we tend to forget is involved in all of this... ourselves.


...maybe Hoody's not on their side at all, but on OUR side.

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LBfly wrote:
I think Hoody didnt get the tape because he already knows whats in it, perhaps he was the one who put it there some time ago but anyway he knows whats about. I mean, when he turned he went specifically to that box, he even pressed the zoom.


Or he went through the box because it's where Tim's pills were before, and he thought there might still be some in there. That's what I thought, anyway.
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MaskyPlaysTheDrums wrote:
Looooooooong time lurker, first time poster...

Looking over this entry again, there are a few things that I'm thinking:

1. Hoody's a dude, which for me narrows it down to either Seth or Brian (leaning towards Brian, but not dead set yet)

2. Watching Entry 61, that's definitely Tim's house.

3. I think that's Jay in the window. I don't have the screencaps for it, but pause at around 9:02 when Hoody starts to duck behind the bushes while the camera is still focused on the house. The head shape screams "JAY!" to me.

4. This leads to my thoughts regarding the tape and LIAR... someone is hiding something from someone else. I have two theories:

A) That Tim is hiding a tape from Jay or vice versa,
or
B) The two of them, together, are hiding evidence from us, the viewing populace. Remember, this is on YouTube. Jay and Tim know they have an audience, and I'm guessing Hoody does too. Could there be a chance that one of these tapes implicates one or both of them, and they're BOTH hiding it from us?

Long story short, at least one of Jay or Tim is the target of the "LIAR" accusation, and not for unwarranted reasons. Hoody's trying to expose one of them to the other, but he knows he is exposing one (or BOTH) of them to the other party that matters in all of this, and the one we tend to forget is involved in all of this... ourselves.


...maybe Hoody's not on their side at all, but on OUR side.


Damn it, I thought the "unreliable narrator" thing was gone for good.

But yeah, I don't think the audience really has a side in all this. We just sit here and watch, helpless to do anything.
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monstertugg wrote:
LBfly wrote:
I think Hoody didnt get the tape because he already knows whats in it, perhaps he was the one who put it there some time ago but anyway he knows whats about. I mean, when he turned he went specifically to that box, he even pressed the zoom.


I think you have a point. I noticed that it seemed like he found it a bit too fast for it to just chance. He definetly knew something intresting was in there.
This actually makes a lot of sence. After all, he put a tape in the hospital and checked on it.

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monstertugg wrote:
LBfly wrote:
I think Hoody didnt get the tape because he already knows whats in it, perhaps he was the one who put it there some time ago but anyway he knows whats about. I mean, when he turned he went specifically to that box, he even pressed the zoom.


I think you have a point. I noticed that it seemed like he found it a bit too fast for it to just chance. He definetly knew something intresting was in there.


Wasn't he looking for pills? He probably recognized the box as the one he took Tim's pills from in Entry #61.
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Since no one posted a picture of the failure.

Also, I agree that it's tim/jay's house. The liar in the box kinda solidifies that in my mind.

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Marble Hornets
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KTsteve wrote:


Since no one posted a picture of the failure.

Also, I agree that it's tim/jay's house. The liar in the box kinda solidifies that in my mind.


Someone already posted that a long time ago

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I actually have to criticize some things with this entry

They don't make things clear enough (why would you let the image of the person at the end be so vague that we can't distinct it)

Why would you also have that same person leave their window open? Neither Jay nor Alex EVER leaves their shit unlocked. Makes no sense. On top of that hoody just busts in like nobodys' home, not giving a shit that someone could be right there in that room waiting to jump him. He got away with that at Tim's place cause he saw Tim go down the hall, but here he didn't know who or what was inside. Also, the way he found that tape was pretty ridiculous. Hoody just happens to see a box as he's about to leave? Why would a box like that catch his eye? And then he leaves it, but uploads this video to youtube. ALEX, JAY, AND TIM ALL WATCH THE DAMN VIDEOS, WHY NOT JUST TAKE IT AND UPLOAD IT YOURSELF INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR JAY TO UPLOAD IT BY CALLING HIM OUT

I think the series peaked in season 2. This whole season has been baby steps with more "why bother showing this" entries than "damn that was good" entries . I'm as much of a fan as the biggest fans out there, but their script writing skills have dropped significantly.


And if anyone tries to defend this entry taking 2-3 weeks to make... ugh. This was seriously a one man job that required very little editing and two people could have shot each part (the outdoors part and the indoors part) over the span of a night. I know I'm not entitled to faster entries, I just wish that if we keep having to wait this long they'd at least give us something more than "hoody desires pills for himself." I just don't get how you can have 3 people working on a script for 2 weeks and all you can come up with is "lets redo some house crawling from season 1 and throw pills in the mix"

tl;dr: they are dragging shit out way too long at this point. every other entry is another unrevealing entry just so they can find a tape to play in the next one.

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Marble Hornets wrote:
I actually have to criticize some things with this entry

They don't make things clear enough (why would you let the image of the person at the end be so vague that we can't distinct it)

Why would you also have that same person leave their window open? Neither Jay nor Alex EVER leaves their shit unlocked. Makes no sense. On top of that hoody just busts in like nobodys' home, not giving a shit that someone could be right there in that room waiting to jump him. He got away with that at Tim's place cause he saw Tim go down the hall, but here he didn't know who or what was inside. Also, the way he found that tape was pretty ridiculous. Hoody just happens to see a box as he's about to leave? Why would a box like that catch his eye? And then he leaves it, but uploads this video to youtube. ALEX, JAY, AND TIM ALL WATCH THE DAMN VIDEOS, WHY NOT JUST TAKE IT AND UPLOAD IT YOURSELF INSTEAD OF WAITING FOR JAY TO UPLOAD IT BY CALLING HIM OUT

I think the series peaked in season 2. This whole season has been baby steps with more "why bother showing this" entries than "damn that was good" entries . I'm as much of a fan as the biggest fans out there, but their script writing skills have dropped significantly.


And if anyone tries to defend this entry taking 2-3 weeks to make... ugh. This was seriously a one man job that required very little editing and two people could have shot each part (the outdoors part and the indoors part) over the span of a night. I know I'm not entitled to faster entries, I just wish that if we keep having to wait this long they'd at least give us something more than "hoody desires pills for himself." I just don't get how you can have 3 people working on a script for 2 weeks and all you can come up with is "lets redo some house crawling from season 1 and throw pills in the mix"

tl;dr: they are dragging shit out way too long at this point. every other entry is another unrevealing entry just so they can find a tape to play in the next one.

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Take it to the off topic thread, friend. :V

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Last night I typed up a good in-depth reply, and it disappeared. Or something.

Any way, I agree with most everything that's been said here, so I just focus on what I don't: I do not believe that's Jay in the house. I'm sure it's Alex; I can't think of any good reason for it to be Jay whether Tim's with him or not.

I don't have any opinion on this being Tim's house, because I just don't know enough to feel comfortable speculating.

Lastly, I just want to say I was kind of expecting an angry response from Tim via Twitter about this; even if that's not his house he was pretty pissed off at Hoody last time he saw him.

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SilentMedusa wrote:
Last night I typed up a good in-depth reply, and it disappeared. Or something.

Any way, I agree with most everything that's been said here, so I just focus on what I don't: I do not believe that's Jay in the house. I'm sure it's Alex; I can't think of any good reason for it to be Jay whether Tim's with him or not.

I don't have any opinion on this being Tim's house, because I just don't know enough to feel comfortable speculating.

Lastly, I just want to say I was kind of expecting an angry response from Tim via Twitter about this; even if that's not his house he was pretty pissed off at Hoody last time he saw him.


The head/neck more resembles Troy to me, the neck is the reason I have no doubt it's him. When he turns to the left I can't unsee it as Jay.. Joseph is also a good amount taller.

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Marble Hornets wrote:
Also, the way he found that tape was pretty ridiculous. Hoody just happens to see a box as he's about to leave? Why would a box like that catch his eye?


It's the same box that he originally stole Tim's medicine from in Entry #61, so it would make sense that it would catch his eye when he's looking for medicine again.

As for your other questions: I got nothing.

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FWIW, personally I'm convinced the guy at the window is Alex - height, neck (Joseph has a looong neck), body shape, face shape, hair (is that a hint if a mohawk?). The backlighting makes it harder to discern the silhouette, but even so, it looks like him IMO.

Another bit of conjecture, but I can't imagine Hoody would feel threatened enough by Tim and Jay that he would need to bring a gun to any potential encounter with them. We've seen him protecting Tim from Alex in Entry #65 and returning Jay's lost camera to Jay in that one entry in Season Two (can't remember the number). He doesn't seem to have any bad intentions towards either of them. Alex on the other hand...

Last we heard, Jay and Tim were pretty far from Rosswood area: with Jay in his current "out of it" state, I'd be very surprised if they decided to return back to the town where Alex is (as far as they know), when Jay is gonna find it harder to protect himself if Alex comes after them.

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